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A Troubling Chant on the Convention Floor
By Jack Hitt
Political Asylum is the Harpers.org convention blog, written by contributing editors Kevin Baker and Jack Hitt.
An unscripted moment happened late this afternoon that caused the assembled mainstream media to turn away in the hope that it would disappear. As I was standing in line for a sandwich next to an Italian and a Puerto Rican correspondent, a controversy was unfolding on the floor. The RonPaulites, whose furious devotion to a single idea have made them the Ellen Jamesians of the right, were protesting a decision by RNC officials not to seat members of the Maine delegation, which was split between Paul and Romney supporters following rule changes made just prior to the convention. There were energetic shouts of Aye! and Nay! as a Puerto Rican party functionaryZoraida Fonalledas, the chairwoman of the Committee on Permanent Organizationtook her turn at the main-stage lectern. As she began speaking in her accented English, some in the crowd started shouting USA! USA!
The chanting carried on for nearly a minute while most of the other delegates and the media stood by in stunned silence. The Puerto Rican correspondent turned to me and asked, Is this happening? I said I honestly didnt know what was happeningit was astonishing to see all the brittle work of narrative construction that is a modern political convention suddenly crack before our eyes. None of us could quite believe what we were seeing: A sea of twentysomething bowties and cowboy hats morphing into frat bros apparently shrieking over (or at) a Latina. RNC chairman Reince Priebus quickly stepped up and asked for order and respect for the speaker, suggesting that, yeah, what we had just seen might well have been an ugly outburst of nativism.
http://www.harpers.org/archive/2012/08/hbc-90008805
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/28/1125315/-GOP-boos-Puerto-Rico-at-convention-Chants-USA-USA
on a personal note- i found the video highly disturbing, kpete
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)This needs to get more air time.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)yardwork
(61,588 posts)But there is no possible explanation for the shouts of "USA! USA!" than bigotry against the delegate from Puerto Rico. She repeatedly attempted to speak and was shouted down.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Supporters... I've watched three different clips of that, from different angles and it was more about the Dittoheads in black pants with white shirts, shouting 'USAX3'
That was while the Paulites, who were dressed like Howdy Doody characters yelling 'Sit them' or 'Seat them' about their delegates being counted. The longer videos shows the uproar was already in action as Prius (whatever) had JUST finished lying about the 'Yea and Nay' vote on the counts. The 'Yeas' were not louder than the 'Nays' and he said they were.
So I don't think she had anything to do with it. Since the PR delegation was for Romney, the white shirts doing most of the yelling (dressed like wait staff at a restaurant) were getting their way. They were trying to overcome the Paulites.
The media characterizations of the yelling was not that it was racist, but that it was about seating the Ron Paul people. Both groups are decidedly anti-hispanic, anti-immigrant, anti-black, etc. They've gone down to the gutter and aren't about to leave their cozy home,
I only brought this up because some posters have take the time lately to warn us about getting very excited about what may be mischaracterizations on stories that make DU look bad. In fact I'm planning to make an OP on just what the modern GOP convention is, if someone hasn't already, that really lays out their racism and what they are. As if we didn't know already.
Raster
(20,998 posts)"SEAT THEM NOW, SEAT THEM NOW, SEAT THEM NOW."
yardwork
(61,588 posts)Two things were happening more or less at once, but the one incident (Paulites anger) does not obscure the fact that a bunch of obvious racists hollered "USA USA" at a Puerto Rican woman and prevented her from speaking.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)gentlewoman from PR was simply a victim of bad timing.
FourScore
(9,704 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)....just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Then Rinsed Penis came to her rescue and started pounding the gavel and asking the delegates to respect her report (if not him, snicker).
Those Pual-bots are outta control. It's a beautiful thing, really.
ellenfl
(8,660 posts)brightertomorrow
(122 posts)and the poor woman looked like she thought so too as looks to me like she was almost in tears. I can't get this video out of my mind today. Maybe Anne Romney saw it this way too and might just be one reason she is running around trying to woo Latinos today.
On a side note spellcheck wanted to change priebus to probes.
Monk06
(7,675 posts)THAT's not what they were saying. Unfortunately for the Republicans the overwhelming visual message was racism.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Paul from having the 5 delegations he needed to get access to the floor and place a nomination.
It is an even bigger story
KansDem
(28,498 posts)It sounded like the Paul supporters were the "targets," as if to silence their objections...
Raster
(20,998 posts)Thaaaaank yuuuu, delegates. PRICELESS
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Sorry to say, it changes NOTHING.
Especially as the Ron Paul bots are vocally racist, especially the Texans who hate Latinos.
If the GOP did not embrace people who openly hate latinos, who want to actively cut our vote out, it might be different, but it is not.
The fact is, they know they do not have to behave, because they will get a weak slap on the wrist from the GOP.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Second, everything you say is probably true. I do not dispute it. I am certainly not going to protect and/or defend either the Paul gang nor the RNC. But THE FACT remains, no one xenophobically chanting "USA, USA, USA" at the gentlewoman from Puerto Rico. It was FAR MORE directed at Rinse Penis.
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)When the crowd's chanting became too much, he timidly stepped up to the podium and weakly flailed away at the gavel--to no avail. It was an ugly and pathetic scene.
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)when he is speaking. A lonely Puerto Rican woman at the RNC is fair game to them. Nuts, isn't it?
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Air it on every Spanish language TV and radio station in the country tomorrow. I'm still a little bit in shock. That sure as hell looked liked a frightening level of ignorance to me.
Lost-in-FL
(7,093 posts)No self respecting Puerto Rican should be at that convention. I am happy.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Think about the daily hypocrisy pointed out here coming from their side of the aisle. Self-loathing has got to figure pretty highly in their psychic make-ups.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)chorro fascistas de mierda.
Lost-in-FL
(7,093 posts)kath
(10,565 posts)Yeah. Right.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)meow2u3
(24,761 posts)Teabag Talibanism is so ingrained in them that they don't think anything's wrong with them.
demwing
(16,916 posts)"The chants of 'USA!USA!' were not directed at the Chairwoman from PR, but meant to drown out the chants of 'Seat Them Now' that came from the Ron Paul supporters..."
Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)nt
SIDURI
(67 posts)They simply can't wrap their minds around someone born there growing up to be President. I know the birthers go on and on about Kenya, but it is grounded in disrespecting the State of Hawaii and its residents by continually calling them liars for presenting evidence that Barack Obama was born and raised on O'ahu. All I can figure out is that since the Islands are several thousand miles offshore and not in some cornfield in the middle of the continent, the racists/birthers (pretty much one and the same) simply find it hard to believe in the legitimacy of the 50th State, much less the legitimacy of the US President.
Siduri
valerief
(53,235 posts)Hawaii is part of the U.S. apparently.
NHale
(1 post)From reading lips of the Ron Paul supporters it looks like they were chanting "Seat Us Now" and the non-Paulnuts were trying to drown them out with USA USA. It was lousy timing for them since the speaker from PR was there, but the chant was directed at the Paulnuts, not at the speaker.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Yes, I saw some others mouthing something else, but not all of the "other mouthers" were saying the same thing.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)do with her being from puerto rico.
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)struggle4progress
(118,278 posts)MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)including me.
What an ugly display of stupidity. I think they even scared themselves like have a crazy uncle expressed to the power of 10!
Cha
(297,145 posts)American Taliban in all its Ugly Screed.
BarbaRosa
(2,684 posts)when Gov. Martinez, NM, speaks.
Alduin
(501 posts)Don't those idiots know that Puerto Rico is part of the USA?????
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)they like to think they are highly educated assholes.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)have these fucking pukes insulted us. Whether elected official or just your average right wing moron. No Puerto Rican (or Latin American for that matter) has any fucking business being around these bigots.
Stinky The Clown
(67,789 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)The Romney delegates were chanting "U-S-A" to drown out the Paul-bots' chants of "Seat Them Now" (the Maine Paul delegates). It is obvious that is what their lips are saying if you watch the video. Even the woman from Puerto Rico throws out a few Spanish-accented U-S-A's of her own; she appears as pissed at the Paul-bots as the Romney delegates are.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)Marr
(20,317 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)askyeshua
(59 posts)They actually were NOT booing her, some context is required. Ron Paul's supporters had just lost their battle to have their delegates seated. They had started chanting "seat them down" as she walked to the podium. Romney's supporters in response saught to drown them out by chanting 'USA'. I can see why the mistake can be made to assume it was a racist reaction. But turns out it was a horrible coincidence
Flatpicker
(894 posts)That would make for a great attack ad.
Now, before you say it wouldn't be right, I ask if the tables were turned, how quickly would this become a republican talking point?
Marr
(20,317 posts)What's more, it seems to me that the left-wing base isn't nearly as gullible, or willing to believe things simply because they *want* them to be true, as is the right-wing base. And once they see they've been lied to, they'll be resentful of the person/group that lied to them.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)eridani
(51,907 posts)Safetykitten
(5,162 posts)I mean, this is the culmination of a wacked out fascist party that we can always negotiate with, right?
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)for them to behave this way, but it is not okay for people to point the behavior out. I cannot wrap my head around and how crazy and sad this all is.
Flatpicker
(894 posts)But it would be worse if it was heckling of the PR speaker.
Either way shows that their tent is so small that they cannot accept any alternate views or discussion.
Bette Noir
(3,581 posts)There's not one word from the Puerto Rican lady. You hear the chant, but neither the beginning of it, or the speech afterward.
But, no, these yahoos have no idea the Puerto Rico is part of the US. I get questioned about my citizenship all the time, and I barely speak Spanish.
chollybocker
(3,687 posts)or her race or territory. It was all about what Preibus had just done at the podium.
There's no need to make sh*t up when the reality is already good enough to crush them in Nov.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)With all the crazy shit they have been saying I'm not sure there is any relief in sight. Anybody got a tums or some alka seltzer?
Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)of RESPECT for the lady, for the Ron Paul supporters, and lastly, for the ELECTED DELAGATES both now and in the future conventions. They are eating their own! Messy huh?
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)to get to that magical 61% of white voters without the Ron Paul votes? not to mention the white female vote.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)I try to keep a lot of political opinions off of FB because I work in a public arena, but this was just so sad.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)xxenderwigginxx
(146 posts)I watched the convention, what is shown in that clip had nothing to do with the woman. The Paul supporters were yelling "seat them now" & Rmoneys people were shouting "USA" to drown them out. ABC & CNN both reported that Rmoneys delegates were instructed to "begin chants of USA" if such a disruption broke out. There are enough factual incidents of racism, homophobia, etc; no need to make ourselves look silly by making things up.
Bertha Venation
(21,484 posts)no need to make ourselves look silly by making things up."
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)They were yelling at her, face it. This is the disgusting hatred that now constantly spews from the right wing. Reince Priebus CLEARLY tells the audience to show her some respect.
Shame on those awful people.
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)Firebrand Gary
(5,044 posts)You should take your grievance up with the OP if you feel that it is false. As I see it, there was a speaker on stage who was shouted down by the audience. Rude is rude.
And YES, with the GOP hostility towards minorities and all US territories (Except Mariana's) which is all the more disgusting as it plays right into the GOP behavior as of late
AND
" Glenn Beck and other right wing pundits say that the timing of this bill is suspect, a move by democrats to gain more votes for the 2012 election. Yesterday on his show Beck spent a good deal of time talking about the insidious nature of the bill."
http://guanabee.com/2010/04/puerto-rican-statehood-bill-going-to-congress-glenn-beck-is-still-a-loco/
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)she doesn't play it as the 'rude' response of the delegates to a speaker.
in fact, it had nothing to do with her -- it started before she came to the podium.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)because there are enforcers to keep us in line. Shut up and just go along with the bullshit, otherwise you are a troll!
I see threads here with pure b.s., at the top of the greatest page, and not a single person calls the b.s. Surely someone sees it's b.s., why is no one calling it? Mabye it's because if they do, someone will come and insinuate something about them. An "interesting commonality".
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I was just telling a friend about this, and meant to say the word "faceplam," - it was typo-ed to "racepalm," which... seems totally fitting.
So, yeah. Racepalming it is.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)!Esta' cabron!
HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)i wondered why their mouths didn't all seem to match what they were supposedly chanting.
i don't appreciate being manipulated.
xxenderwigginxx
(146 posts)Amonester
(11,541 posts)I know, expecting any grown up sense from these brainwashed tealibans doesn't make any sense either, but WTF?
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)xxenderwigginxx
(146 posts)Had nothing to do with nationality... or patriotism for that matter
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)xxenderwigginxx
(146 posts)there are enough true events, no need to make some up and hurt our credibility
renie408
(9,854 posts)Of COURSE that's what it was...the GOP isn't racist!
xxenderwigginxx
(146 posts)and it was obvious what was happening.
FedUpWithIt All
(4,442 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)bigtree
(85,986 posts). . . which appeals to the worst in their supporters.
spanone
(135,823 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)That made me cry.
The poor woman looked devastated and I can't help but to think she is rethinking her choice of parties. Many in the audience looked like they wanted to rush the stage and beat her.
That is one of those most disturbing things I have seen this election season.
agentS
(1,325 posts)While in truth, this wasn't a racist outburst by either side, it still LOOKS pretty bad on camera. How's it gonna play on Calle Ocho in Miami? How's it gonna look on Telemundo or Univision news? Priebus having to bang the gavel more than twice after the shout-down is not a good thing to behold on TV. Instead the RNC, the attendees and the delegates ALL look positively pathetic.
So it wasn't a racist outburst- but it was about corruption, indignity, cheating, poor timing and wearing ugly cowboy hats. Does either side realize how this LOOKS on TV to untrained eyes? It's not a pretty picture.
They probably should have stuck with the racism; it would have played better than this foolish loss of control has.
Paulistas- you knew the RNC and R-Money was corrupt from the start; why did you waste your time and 'powder' fighting them? Did you honesty expect a different result?
RNC- you couldn't handle this in a better manner? What is Sheldon Addelson paying you (with foreign bribe money and sex slaves) for?
Delegates shouting- Yes, I know they told you to shout that, but you do realize there are CAMERAS everywhere, some broadcast live, right?
patrice
(47,992 posts)glinda
(14,807 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)fuck that shit.
robertpaulsen
(8,632 posts)Other than the original Harper's Report by Jack Hitt and the Daily Kos link, I am seeing this nowhere! I'm not just talking about the corporate losers like CNN & MSNBC, I'm not seeing anything on Raw Story, Think Progress, Alternet, nothing! Regardless of whether you interpret what you see on screen as what the reporter experienced as "an ugly outburst of nativism" or a senseless censoring of Paul delegates (Maine is no longer part of USA, USA? ), this is a newsworthy event and it pisses me off that it's being swept under the rug.
Posteritatis
(18,807 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)It was reported yesterday that the California delegation was instructed to drown out any Paul chanting outbursts.
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)And word of its horrors has gone international. I hope that people in other countries are aware its a repuke thing and don't paint all of America with the same brush.
K Gardner
(14,933 posts)BlueinOhio
(238 posts)Jeb Bush released a statement about how the GOP treats Latinos. I would like to think it was just the Ron Paulbots but the rants I've been hearing from the republicans at work particularly the ex military sounds just about right.
stuntcat
(12,022 posts)The worst example of anyone who's a Democrat never gets as bad as their racist, Earth-raping, selfish, end-times troglodytes.
(edit- my apologies to troglodytes!)
idal2u2
(1 post)but unfortunately I'm just disgusted by the republicans this year... I've always voted republican but not this year.. am american/Puerto Rican and I understand this was not supposedly directed at the Puerto Rican Chairwoman but gee it just shows how insensitive or perhaps how so very out of touch they are with what other's perceive of them that they could not see past their own noses and let a woman that represents Puerto Rico (and represents a group of american citizens from whom they also need votes) speak... silly... they looked silly... as far as Chairman Reince Priebus.. wow awful.. just awful...
Care Acutely
(1,370 posts)HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)The RNC is going over like a lead balloon here. Even moderate republican locals are appalled at the GOP arrogance, lies, and racism. The war on women is bombing as well. Not sure where Romney's poll numbers are coming from... maybe they're bought like his twitter and fb followers?