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Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:54 AM

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Gingrich: People like me are what stand between us and Auschwitz.”

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Tuesday, Dec 13, 2011 10:00 PM 02:48:09 UTC+1000

Apocalypse Newt

Gingrich's bizarre obsession with civilization-ending threats


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Newt Gingrich has changed a lot of positions over his many years in public life, but there are a few things about his worldview that are consistent. One is an obsession with apocalyptic or civilization-ending threats, often paired with the idea that Gingrich himself is alone (or nearly so) in recognizing the scale of the danger and in being equipped to deal with it.

My favorite example of this genre of Gingrich studies is a 1994 interview in which he declared “People like me are what stand between us and Auschwitz.”

That line became an instant classic for Newt aficionados; less well-known is that Gingrich elaborated on the theme — at length — in the same interview, conducted by the Atlanta Journal Constitution:

“I see evil around me every day,” he says. He cites the widespread slaughter from Bosnia to Washington D.C. The German tourist killed by what Gingrich calls “a savage” from the urban jungle of Miami.

“We are at the edge of losing this civilization,” he says. “You get two more generations of what we had for the last 20 years and we’re in desperate trouble …

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Gingrich also sees the supposed rise of Shariah in America as a threat to “Western civilization.”

“Stealth jihadis use political, cultural, societal, religious, intellectual tools; violent jihadis use violence,” he said in a speech at the American Enterprise Institute last year. “But in fact they’re both engaged in jihad and they’re both seeking to impose the same end state which is to replace Western civilization with a radical imposition of Sharia.”

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:56 AM

1. talk about begging for ridicule

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:58 AM

2. He's right.

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He'd be standing in the guard tower.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:00 AM

3. Just exactly what I was thinking.

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Alles fur Der Vaterland, according to Newt.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:15 PM

19. The man is deluded...he is a HITLER in a closet...its the same message crammed into a fat asshole

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If anyone stands for him...they are Gestapo

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:09 PM

46. Well done!

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Thank you for the unexpected laugh (because really, who laughs when they're listening to old Gordon Lightfoot?).

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 06:50 AM

53. I realize you meant this as a joke...

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...and, it did make me smile, but...

While Newtie is attempting to cuddle with the Jews and Israel, he's demonized and dehumanized an entire populace...Muslims. He seems silly and out of touch now, but I would imagine that's what a lot of people thought about Hitler in the early stages of his "career". Do I really think he could pull off the illegalization of an entire people? Not really. But, he could do a lot of damage and drag us into another, possibly the final, war. This doesn't even cover what he thinks of "poor" people or the undereducated. While he whines about "class warfare" now, as President, he would encourage it. It would give him the excuse to tighten the bonds further.

I spend a lot of time laughing and making jokes about the clowns that are competing for the GOP nomination, but there are times when I stop and really think about it. There isn't one of them that doesn't worry me. It's Newt & Co. that should be closing our ranks. It's up to us to prevent another Auschwitz.

Poop. Now I feel bad about ruining a lighthearted comment. I've had it done to me and it irritates me. I promise, I really do have a sense of humor and I'm far from using tinfoil for headwear!

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Response to Wait Wut (Reply #53)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 10:11 AM

58. It was actually a rehash of an old Pat Buchanan joke

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"Pat Buchana's not anti-Semtic. In fact, he lost an uncle at Auschwitz....

He fell out of the guard tower!"

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:12 AM

5. those are simple words, but when I read them I thought

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yes... he is off his rocker. That sums it up perfectly. It's clean and neat and true.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:20 AM

6. People like Newt are what stand between divorce lawyers and their own bankruptcy

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:22 AM

7. Of course

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Notice how he avoids mentioning that Christian fanatics are doing the same thing!

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #7)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 05:06 AM

52. Bingo!

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This is yet another example of one of the standard occult republicon strategeries: TO proactively PROJECT their very own deep dank stanky shadows onto others with ferocious speed and force.



"If thou FAIL to reckon with and own thy shadow,
then thy shadow shall surely own thee."

- Billy Bibble

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:23 AM

8. Evil

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Seems like Gingrwich dont know that evil is who, and what is ruling today and for the past 5 decades.

It is evil that is invading and occupying peoples land and killing them everday,invading innocent people and destroying a nation based on lies for oil and control,so you could reap the windfall profits when they start the Nation building after the death,destruction,mayhem,and misery heaped upon the innocent people,for"Strategic interest" and the bogus and laughable claim that they are defending western civillation and Israel

The evil are those who thinks they own the world and can dictate can have this and that kind of weapons,it is the evil who has amssive quantites of Wmd while telling and threatenting others if they even think about trying to get one,it is the Evil who only supports the rich against the masses of hard working people like his "God Squad" Christian right Republican Conservative party.
The Evil that is drumming up even more war,with and all out concerted war to go after Iran
A war that already started wiht execution of their scientist and sabbatoge against them for the last 4 years.

We can not get anymore evil than Gingrich and those who think like him and those who support,and are in the same calls of one of the most evil americans who ever lived"Dick Cheney".
What is ruling the the world today is" EVIL",and its too bad that Gingrich and the rich and wealthy,their arrogance are blinding them to the truth.
If they really want to see evil,they should look in the mirror

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:27 AM

10. Right, Newt. Let's let you do your part and stick with Wife #3, without being unfaithful, okay?

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That's a good start to strengthening the institution of marriage, which you have contributed towards helping to destroy.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:27 AM

11. This quote:

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“You get two more generations of what we had for the last 20 years and we’re in desperate trouble … "

Newt, do you realize that the past 30 years has been primarily leadership by YOUR party?

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Response to TBF (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 09:45 PM

44. That was my exact thought when I read that.

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Just because HE doesn't know or remember history doesn't mean the rest of us are as willfully ignorant.

If he is all that stand between us and destruction, I'll take my chances on the street.

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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #44)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 08:04 AM

56. Same here - I can't stand that evil man. nt

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:33 AM

12. He's projecting again.

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What I'd like to know is what's standing between him and reality. He makes W. look harmless.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:14 PM

47. Yup. Newt is a creep.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:42 AM

13. Don't think I need your fat ass saving me from anything

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unless its saving me from that piece of pie that keeps looking at me

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:49 AM

15. TY for the reminders

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I also remember how he basically attempted to lay the blame for the Susan Smith kid murders on the Democrats prior to the 1994 midterms. He is a walking gasbag of ugliness.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:51 PM

26. I read somewhere that one of Newt's campaign managers was Susan Smith's stepfather.

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... the one Smith accused of molesting her....

http://www.alternet.org/story/8695/



Journalists might also ask Gingrich about Smith's stepfather, Beverly Russell. Prior to the kids' disappearance, Russell was busily campaigning not for the depraved Democrats, but for Newt Gingrich and his minions. Russell was a Republican leader in South Carolina and local organizer of Pat Robertson's Christian Coalition. During the nine days that Susan Smith had the country hunting for a nonexistent black carjacker, Russell urged nationwide prayer for the two missing kids: "All we can do is pray. This is a nightmare." A prominent businessman and stockbroker, Russell married Smith's mom after she divorced Smith's dad (who later committed suicide). From the age of six, Russell raised Susan Smith in an upper-middle-class, church-going home. Gingrich's campaign comments notwithstanding, the home was free of counterculture and welfare-state influences. But Susan Smith attempted suicide at age 13, and at age 15 told authorities that her stepdad had been sexually molesting her for at least a year.

Now as to whether all thats true or not I can't say for certain.

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Response to Erose999 (Reply #26)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:42 PM

28. I heard about that too

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The hypocrisy of all that is enough to make your head explode!

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:51 AM

16. ...pointing the way."

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Healthy men to the left; elderly, women and children to the right.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:53 AM

17. The SS are too afraid of him to enter.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:11 PM

18. I am disgusted the man continues to get his bizzarre thoughts into the mainstream media

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possibly infecting others out there of a brain disorder.

Newt sound good to the untrained ear...He talks to peeps in a way that makes some sense

and reasonable....but when scrutinized....FAIL

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:33 PM

20. " ... hawking tickets." nt

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:35 PM

21. Wrong-o goofball. People like YOU are responsible for

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creating an atmosphere that LEADS TO stuff like that.

People who create an atmosphere that stresses similarities, foster peace
People who stress DIFFERENCES, foster strife.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:39 PM

22. I think Newt has it backwards... its it him standing between us and freedom. Now as to whether one

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could compare our state to auschwitz I don't think we're there yet. But it Der Neuter has his way we might very well be.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:40 PM

23. More likely to have stood guard at Auschwitz. (nt)

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:45 PM

24. I'll also just put it out there that in one of his awful "revisionist history novels" the Nazzies

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win WWII in Europe...

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:50 PM

25. Newtie's narcissism has always been his undoing

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It's why his marriages fail. It's why he failed as Speaker. It's why his presidential campaigns have failed. It's why he will continue to fail.

He thinks he's very smart, but the reality is he's just a pseudo-intellectual asshole.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 12:55 PM

27. Is he characterizing himself as a kinder gentler Hitler?

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Cause that's the only man who stood between his people and a Nazi death camp.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:55 PM

29. Whoa!! Nail. Coffin. Newt is done.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:09 PM

30. Moron!

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Seriously Newt,

I thought you were supposed to be a writer of historical works. Well I suppose that only counts if you reduce history to poorly scripted, softcore sleeze, alt history nonsense (1945). Or to utterly absent, history that reinvents the southern perspective towards former slaves taking up arms in the service of the union. (The battle of the crater).

So I suppose I shouldn't be surprised about your commentary about the holocaust. Though really, the barest research would probably bear out problems with your suggestion of defending us from Auschwitz. I... I don't even have the patience to point out the problems with your suggestions that clearly are more rooted in the ridiculous ramblings of Jonah Goldberg than in anything even remotely resembling historical fact.

I would only have one question: Were the Nazi's an exotic bunch of foreignors to germany that secretly slipped in and started a series of revolutions and political movements that gradually took over Germany and ran it as an outside agency preaching foreign religions, homosexuality, academic admiration, and tolerance ubber alles?

Again. Moron!

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:17 PM

31. Before I read his explanation, I thought he meant he stood between the U.S. and the Rabid Right.

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Because I have encountered more than one Rightist who advocates killing everyone-not-just-like-them. I even have my very own executioner standing in the wings waiting for "when they make it legal to kill Liberals".


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Response to ieoeja (Reply #31)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:39 PM

39. Ann Coulter has actually advocated killing liberals, you know. nt

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 03:53 PM

32. So Gingrich is the gate keeper who keeps the 1% out of the camps

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 06:26 PM

33. Please, Oh Please. . .

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Republican Party, NOMINATE this guy!!

We'll see a 48-state landslide in Nov. 2012 (for Obama).

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:17 PM

34. That's because Gingrich wants to be a greeter at the front gate!!

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He'd love to wear the SS uniform.
He is one of the most soulless characters to ever appear on the political landscape.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 07:21 PM

35. No, Newt. You're like the guy in the snappy uniform standing at the unloading point.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:14 PM

37. And now for something completely different

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Newt Gingrich's Literal Embrace Of Yasser Arafat (1993)


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #37)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 03:24 AM

50. Wow-Newt shakes hands with people who DON'T EXIST!!!!!

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(Insert "Twilight Zone" theme here).

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:36 PM

38. “Stealth jihadis use political, cultural, societal, religious, intellectual tools. . . ."

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Gosh, that sounds like the Republicans, doesn't it? They are doing their best to turn this country into a fundie theocracy--the Christian version of Sharia Law.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:40 PM

40. OH BULLSHIT Newt!! People like you are what is bringing us closer to Auschwitz.”

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you fucking porky pig. someone please stick an apple in his mouth and Shut him the fuck up

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:40 PM

41. The far right so called Christian crowd he sucks up to

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are longing for the day the nukes fall on Israel so their fantasy king can appear.
Who does he think he is fooling?

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 08:50 PM

42. Newt Gingrich inspires intense feelings of rage within this poster.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 09:10 PM

43. Newt's correct: An SS Commandant would literally stand between the trains and the concentration camp

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So, strangely, he's right -- it's heartless, mega-assholes like himself who would stand before minorities, women, gays, liberals, etc., pulling them off the trains and sorting out who could work (step to the right) and those who should be eliminated (step to the left).

Newt and his ilk would be positioned in front of the camp -- standing in between, as he says.


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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:06 PM

45. He's right, a high divorce rate and marital infidelity are doing us in

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So that pretty much disqualifies Newt as our defender.

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:06 PM

48. he`s an old man with old ideas

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he appeals to those who are afraid of the shadows on their walls and the monster under their beds. he has old ideas that are no longer relevant in this century.

old wine in old bottles

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:21 PM

49. fixed.

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"Gingrich: People like me stand for Auschwitz.”

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 04:56 AM

51. Uh, Newt, people like you grease the skids to Auschwitz. Putz. nt

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:38 AM

54. Gingrich would be the first one to send you to a camp

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and your only crime would be that you didn't agree with him! What a joke that this fool is going to save civilization his kind are the one's who are destroying America and the rest of the world with their greed and arrogance

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Wed Dec 14, 2011, 07:38 AM

55. Yeah newt, you're the fucking guard at the gate. nt

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