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Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:04 AM

Isaac Thread #1 From New Orleans

Last edited Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:59 AM - Edit history (3)

20:00
Like most here in the path of Isaac, having some trouble sleeping so I thought I would makes some observations of things prior to Isaac's landfall

Starting to look like a the beginnings of a Science-Fiction movie down here in New Orleans. I keep thinking of "Independence Day" for some reason...

The populace here are very calm and collected, everyone is busy updating each others contact points.

In the stores bottled water is now gone from the shelves (I went to two stores), canned food is running low.

Lines around the block at gas stations.

I am pretty well stocked, water is a bit low will make another run for some tomorrow and gas. Also want to get a five gallon back up. Will go for all that tomorrow after work, along with another bottled water run.

I am looking warily at the fact, that I am on the first floor and the apt complex I live in is bordered by canals that lead to lake Pontchartrain on three sides. The closest canal in not 75 yards away.

Govt (I work for the Govt) just sent me a 2nd alert testing my cell phone.

They are starting to check all the hurricane shutters at the Michod Shuttle facility but everything is still go for work today. They might let us off early considering the situation.

Michod is a fortress, and rode Katrina out with the National Guard stationed there. It is high value, since over a third of the govt agencies gets paid through it. Not to Mention on the NASA side it looks like that's where the Saturn stage booster will be built for the replacement for the shuttle...the new SLS.

An acquaintance who is in the Navy and stationed here, says he likely will be evacuated today with his family.

Looking at being in my first on land hurricane (was in the Navy). I just moved to New Orleans from New Mexico.

0200 Isaac's approach forces St. Charles Parish to begin mandatory evacuations

http://www.wwltv.com/news/local/st-charles/St-Charles-residents-begin-mandatory-evacuations-167506105.html

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Katashi_itto Aug 2012 OP
xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #1
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #3
Rhiannon12866 Aug 2012 #2
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #4
jsmirman Aug 2012 #5
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #6
jsmirman Aug 2012 #7
JHB Aug 2012 #8
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #10
JHB Aug 2012 #21
enlightenment Aug 2012 #51
MIDNITERIDER1438 Aug 2012 #9
Baclava Aug 2012 #11
dipsydoodle Aug 2012 #12
Baclava Aug 2012 #24
greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #13
TBF Aug 2012 #16
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #20
greytdemocrat Aug 2012 #25
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2012 #27
dixiegrrrrl Aug 2012 #28
gkhouston Aug 2012 #22
TBF Aug 2012 #14
NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #35
TBF Aug 2012 #40
lunatica Aug 2012 #15
malaise Aug 2012 #17
nanabugg Aug 2012 #18
garthranzz Aug 2012 #19
FourScore Aug 2012 #23
DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #26
steve2470 Aug 2012 #29
LuvNewcastle Aug 2012 #30
lonestarnot Aug 2012 #31
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #32
Burma Jones Aug 2012 #33
steve2470 Aug 2012 #34
steve2470 Aug 2012 #36
cbayer Aug 2012 #37
TBF Aug 2012 #41
garthranzz Aug 2012 #52
cbayer Aug 2012 #53
steve2470 Aug 2012 #38
steve2470 Aug 2012 #39
steve2470 Aug 2012 #42
Baclava Aug 2012 #43
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #44
NutmegYankee Aug 2012 #45
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #50
Baclava Aug 2012 #46
nolabear Aug 2012 #47
Katashi_itto Aug 2012 #49
MzShellG Aug 2012 #48
garthranzz Aug 2012 #54
HipChick Aug 2012 #55
Rhiannon12866 Aug 2012 #56
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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:19 AM

1. Thanks - good report

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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #1)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:47 AM

3. Thanks! Will keep posting :)

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:47 AM

2. K&R! Thanks for such a terrific report! Others on DU are also from the area.

Take care of yourself and good luck finding everything you need. Knowing your preparations may help others here. Stay safe and don't forget to check in!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #2)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:03 AM

4. Appraciate that!

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:03 AM

5. Aren't they saying that you should get stuff today

because it will be too late by tomorrow?

I thought that's what I heard on msnbc this morning - that the winds would be too strong by the pre-dawn hours for any trips for supplies?

Don't want to spread any misinformation, but don't want you to need stuff and have it be too late...

I can't sleep, I think because I'm so worried about New Orleans - which is very useless and feels very useless - I hope the city is prepared.

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Response to jsmirman (Reply #5)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:11 AM

6. Yep, trying to get all my ducks in a row today before it goes bad.

Car will be packed today and the last of my supplies will be in. Your right, there is no way one wants to do all this stuff in rising bad weather.

Now its just a matter of seeing what my agency wants to do, hopefully they will cut us loose and we can look at bugging out till, the agency gives a formal redeployment order for the agency to move to TX or Georgia, which is part of their Hurricane plan.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #6)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:13 AM

7. Good to hear

wanted to be sure you had the schedule right.

I guess it's anyone's guess, but I think the agency will be erring on the side of caution. I'd probably wager money on that, tbh.

We're all holding our breath for you folks in New Orleans.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:15 AM

8. Unless there's a problem with your tap water right now...

...buying _containers_ might be the thing to do. Fill them up yourself.

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Response to JHB (Reply #8)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:22 AM

10. Good point! dragging out my camping gear and digging out the two water containers I have, will make

to get more today~!

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:05 AM

21. Not just intended water containers - just about anything that will hold water will do in a pinch...

...for instance, plastic containers for dry goods (cereal, beans, coffee, etc.) can usually hold water just as well, and plenty of people don't think to use those (they clear out the bottled water shelf instead).

And once the crisis is over you have something you can use for storing things. If you don't need them, give them to goodwill for people who can use them. At least they'd be used and not just thrown out or recycled.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Reply #10)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:40 PM

51. Fill your bathtub, also.

You may find a need for water other than drinking it. Batteries, a cooler if you have one, a battery operated radio . . .
Hope you don't need any of those things.
Hang in there.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:15 AM

9. Godspeed

If NOAA is correct and the track continues towards NO, Isaac will make landfall early Wednesday morning. At a certain point when it's a couple hundred miles away, the winds will pick up, of course. but we're talking a nearly 24 hour period.

The other mandatory evacs may begin sooner than you expect, perhaps later today, so you will need a GO-BAG to move when need be. Fuel will run out tomorrow, most likely, so gas up now.

NO evacuated USCG & USN personnel very early during Katrina, to be able to have them return and utilize them in rescue operations.

Good luck. Gulfport is in deep doo-doo again, and Westin USAF & Pensacola NAS the same. The storm is expected to track north, hitting at least Arkansas and as far north as Illinois.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:40 AM

11. still tracking westward

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:34 AM

12. Tropical Storm Isaac: New warning for Louisiana

A new tropical storm warning has been issued for Louisiana's Gulf Coast as Tropical Storm Isaac approaches.

After lashing Florida, Isaac - which has killed nine people - is heading towards the northern Gulf Coast.

Louisiana, Florida, Mississippi and Alabama have all declared a state of emergency.

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The National Hurricane Center (NHC) said that at 09:00 GMT on Monday, Isaac was centred about 180 miles (290km) south-west of Fort Myers in Florida, with wind speeds of 65 mph (105km/h), and could reach hurricane force in the following 24 hours.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-19389087

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Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:22 AM

24. Isaac has confounded all the experts and all the models, staying weak and moving WNW

Water vapor view show lots of dry air still getting sucked in and slowing intensification - remember they predicted a CAT 1 over Key West and it never happened

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:36 AM

13. This storm...

Is no Katrina, not even close. I wouldn't hit the PANIC button.

We got less than 2 inches of rain out of it here in Sarasota,FL. so far.

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:44 AM

16. So far it's looking weaker -

hoping that holds true and it doesn't gather too much strength in the Gulf. Glad you all are ok in Fl.

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:03 AM

20. Your storm situation very different. Katrina was only Cat 3. Isaac will be Cat 2, hit NOLA directly

Isaac is only a distant tropical storm for you.

It will make a direct hit on New Orleans.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #20)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:29 AM

25. Probably not...

Isaac may not even make CAT 1. This storm has been over estimated from day 1.

It's always good to prep for a storm but scaring people only makes it more likely they will ignore warnings in the future. I've seen it countless times. NOLA should be able to handle this easily.

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:46 AM

27. We wish. We don't make lazy bets on it going easy.

Better that the warning of Cat 2 be there based on best projections and simulations / calculations. Better than warning a Cat 1 in the hopes that more people believe it and have it turn out to be Cat 2. If people are stupid enough to ignore warnings, they will suffer and the government will pick up some of the pieces, but far from all.

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #25)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:50 AM

28. Well, I am taking this seriously:

"The NHC is forecasting 6 to 12 feet of water ABOVE THE GROUND in spots along that stretch of coast.

"Normally, the exact amount of surge will be dependent on the exact track and where in the tide cycle the storm comes in. In Isaac's case, however, there will be such a long duration of onshore winds, due to the storm's size and slow forward speed, the water may stay high for more than one tide cycle."


http://www.wunderground.com/blog/bnorcross/show.html?entrynum=5

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Response to greytdemocrat (Reply #13)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:14 AM

22. It's slow moving, and could do a lot of flooding damage.

People in Houston still talk about tropical storm Allison. It didn't bring the widespread prolonged power outages that were associated with Ike, but the flooding was far, far worse.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:42 AM

14. Fill your bathtub with water & more tips here -

old journal entry & others chimed in with comments. Some good tips here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1805560

The only thing that worried me about your post is first floor - I'd be making some friends on higher floors today. Walk around & look for people to talk to. It's a good time to get to know your neighbors so you all can look out for each other.

I'm still hoping this one fizzles out ... but it's definitely headed in your direction.

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Response to TBF (Reply #14)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 02:07 PM

35. That depends on if you have public water or not.

Filling the bathtub for toilet water is for the folks on well water who may not have power for the next several days to run the pump. Those on public water will still have water to flush toilets, even if it goes onto a boil notice. I would store drinking water in the fridge and in other plastic containers just in case.

I was without power for 7 days last year from Irene. My best friends were an oil lamp, 2 Yankee candles, 2 19.2 volt Craftsman fluorescent lamps, and a Coleman stove with 2 green (or blue) propane bottles. Otherwise, stock up on paper towels for cleaning pans and canned food.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #35)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:43 PM

40. Cool, thanks for the clarification -

I buy several of the big jugs of water at our grocery in the late summer, keep them through hurricane season, and then use them for watering the plants. So far we've only evacuated and not actually stayed through a storm. That may change pretty soon, however, now that we have 2 dogs and the kids are older.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:43 AM

15. kick'd and rec'd

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:45 AM

17. Stay safe

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:45 AM

18. Praying for the best for you. Some parts of Maryland receive 9 inces of rain and we are not near it

 

Peace.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:56 AM

19. Categories and Evacuation

I'm near Tulane University - uptown by river. Tulane has canceled classes T/W, reopening Th - meaning they don't expect more than some street flooding, heavy rain and wind, tree branches down, spotty power loss with power restored within 48.

that's about right for a Cat 1 that doesn't come up the river. Cat 2 will trigger an evacuation. If it's a Cat 1 all those supplies won't be necessary because most of the city - not low lying areas, and even some ritzy neighborhoods may be without power for a few days - will be up and running soon.

I've been through everything from Betsy on. This so far is a "regular" storm - if it becomes dangerous, get on the counterflow early. MS does not cooperate well.

I'll join the updates during the day. (Up my post-count.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:15 AM

23. Keep your cell phone charged!

Sometimes it's the obvious little things that go right past us.

As for the area where you live between the canals, did it flood at all during Katrina?

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:33 AM

26. Let the faithful offer prayers

The non believers offer good wishes,
and may both sides be willing to send money or do whatever they can to actually help if need be.

New Orleans got better from Katrina, but she is far from Well. We cannot let her fall, especially since we know that many in Louisiana will be doing their best to try to finish her off.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:52 AM

29. k&r nt

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 10:05 AM

30. I would be concerned about those canals.

They aren't talking much about winds here in Biloxi, but they are concerned about all the rain and the tidal surge. Right now they're saying that we could get several inches of rain and that tides could be 12 feet higher than normal. They're posting warnings about all the local rivers. If New Orleans is going to bear the brunt of this storm, you might consider going to higher ground if you have somewhere else to go. If you stay, make a plan for what you might do if the water rises too high. I think we're going to be okay over here, but New Orleans is pretty vulnerable. I wish y'all the best.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 10:51 AM

31. Man the damn lifejackets and umbrellas! Be safe!

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:11 AM

32. 10:07 UPDATE "The Juice... The Precious Juice..."

"The gangs took off the highways, ready to wage war for a tank of juice."
-Mad Max

Gas...hopefully stations will see a resupply soon... My afternoon will be partially spent hunting for top offs to the SUV's tank..


The gas stations are rapidily becoming windblown, drained corpses dotting the sides of the road. 1st casulisties of Isaac.


Comes to mind that civilization as we know it, at least at a civilian level, revolves around the distance you can make on a tank of gas...

Looks like if the Agency redeploys I'm to going to be near Dallas, TX.


In a few hours we will see if management gets their move out orders.....they will be the first to go.


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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:12 AM

33. Best of Luck......I remember the days leading up to Camille - I was 9

And we had been living in Metairie (Near Transcontinental and Veterans Hwy) for less than a month having just moved from Rockville, MD. I remember the near panic shopping at Schwegmann's, the boarding up of our windows, filling the bathtubs and the general hurry......

I also remember the relief when the storm stayed to the east of N'awlins.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 01:56 PM

34. kick again nt

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #34)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 03:15 PM

36. kick nt

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 03:23 PM

37. Thanks for this. Just a few more words of advice.

I lived in New Orleans for over 20 years until Katrina.

Pretty much every year, there are mild scares and every few years there is a more significant one.

I evacuated a few times, only to have nothing much happen. Most New Orleanians will wait until the odds are looking pretty good for a significant hit before hitting the road.

And, of course, there will be hurricane parties. I had one at my house the night before everyone evacuated for Katrina. New Orleanians will always make the best of a bad time and will act like nothing much is happening up until the last minute.

My only advice for you is to be ready to leave if they call for an evacuation. They will contraflow the major arteries out, making it fairly easy to go.

If you do evacuate, make a reservation at a motel, if you don't have friends/family within a days drive. Even now, it may be hard to get a room reserved, but finding one once an evacuation is called becomes almost impossible.

I wish the best to you and to all my friends and family in New Orleans. I am hopeful that this will be like so many previous storms - much ado, then nothing.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #37)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:47 PM

41. Great tip about the hotels -

we found an awesome Marriott with little kitchens (and accepts big dogs) in a small town in North Texas. Purely by accident ... The other time we drove a little further and stayed with friends. It can be hard to find places as most people target cities. Try the small towns.

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Response to cbayer (Reply #37)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:00 PM

52. Saints fan?

I've been one since the beginning!

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Response to garthranzz (Reply #52)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:04 PM

53. Not a football fan in general, but my kids are rapid saints fans

and it's hard to not get caught up in it.

First time I went to a game in the superdome, I fell asleep. True story!

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 04:36 PM

38. kick nt

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:58 PM

39. kick nt

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 06:52 PM

42. latest forecast shows it aiming squarely at NO.....

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Response to steve2470 (Reply #42)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:03 PM

43. it's a comin'

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:17 PM

44. 18:16 UPDATE: Amtrak has suspended all service tomorrow and Wed.

Last edited Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:32 PM - Edit history (2)

Amtrak has suspended all service into and out of New Orleans Tuesday and Wednesday, but has restored service between Orlando, Tampa and Miami.

Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge canceled all classes and other activities Tuesday and Wednesday, as did Tulane University in New Orleans.

CNN affiliate WLOX in Biloxi, Mississippi, published a list of shelters that are now open or slated to open soon in anticipation of Isaac's arrival.

Got myself topped off for gas. So have a full tank.


Evacualtions are going on, highways are congested.

I will be hanging tight in Metairie, will post as long as I have ability to do so.

Picked up the complete works of HP Lovecraft from Barnes and Noble in Metarie, just down the street from me (Figured what better thing to read while an unholy storm screams outside) and have the all-purpose-adjustable cat.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:58 PM

45. If you are facing no power for several days, may I suggest pancake mix.

A single burner propane stove, some water, and a pan can yield some decent breakfasts and the syrup (the real stuff) doesn't need to be refrigerated if yep tight.

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Response to NutmegYankee (Reply #45)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:28 PM

50. That is a great idea! I will see if I can pick up some in the morning.

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 07:59 PM

46. it's a comin'

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:13 PM

47. You're on Michoud Blvd. in New Orleans East?

Water is likely going to be an issue if it's strong enough. I know that big loaf of a NASA building well. Put things that need to be dry up high because you may flood (I used to live out there and know how low and waterlogged it is).

Take good care and check in.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #47)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:27 PM

49. I work over there, I live over in metaire :)

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 08:20 PM

48. Center forcast to be onshore around noon.....

With 12-18hrs of flash flood torrential rains. Plus a longer duration wind "event" than with Katrina. Please be safe!!!

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:05 PM

54. Update from the Times-Picayune Nola.Com

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf/2012/08/tropical_storm_isaac_is_expect.html

It's a good source.

Here's a good interview with the T-P environmental reporter - he won a Pulitzer for his work on the Wetlands.

http://videos.nola.com/times-picayune/2012/08/tropical_storm_isaac_update_wi_1.html

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 09:08 PM

55. I know the Michod facility well...


I opted to stay in Washington for this week, otherwise I'd be riding out the hurricane in a upper level floor of a hotel in downtown

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 11:46 PM

56. Kicking!

And hoping that everyone is safe...

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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2012, 09:50 AM

57. 8am update - - still looking pretty healthy after landfall

(well technically it's land, but mostly all swamp down where it hit, that could keep it's engine going for awhile longer)







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Response to Katashi_itto (Original post)

Wed Aug 29, 2012, 09:54 AM

58. Rush Limbaugh Thinks Tropical Storm Isaac Is An Obama-Backed Conspiracy Against Republicans

un-credible!


Rush Limbaugh Thinks Tropical Storm Isaac Is An Obama-Backed Conspiracy Against Republicans
Brett LoGiurato | Aug. 27, 2012, 3:18 PM | 9,918 | 31

AP
Conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh noticed all of the coincidences over the weekend about Tropical Storm Isaac and put them all together today into one giant theory about the "coincidence" that all of this happened during the week of the Republican National Convention.

He repeated numerous times in a monologue today on his radio show that he is "not alleging conspiracy." Then, he proceeded to point out that the National Hurricane Center is run by the government or, in other words, President Barack Obama.
Here's Rush's diatribe:

The Republican National Convention. ... It's a chance to introduce Romney to a lot of people who don't know him yet. And I noticed that the hurricane center's track is -- and I'm not alleging conspiracies here. The hurricane center is the regime; the hurricane center is the Commerce Department.

It's the government.
It's Obama.


Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/rush-limbaugh-isaac-hurricane-tropical-storm-a-conspiracy-against-republicans-2012-8#ixzz24wXY4kvp

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