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Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:31 PM

My brother, a lifelong republican, told me he was voting for Obama this morning.....

...i have to say i was in shock, so much so i was speechless! he told me there were several reasons, mainly he's fed up with the birther issue, and that Rmoney destroyed businesses and profited from peoples misery, not to mention the tax returns...his words..."i can't vote for a candidate that won't make his taxes public"....this is the same brother, with whom after nearly getting into a fistfight with 10 years ago over the bush admin, swore off talking politics between us again ever.....if he can have a change of heart, anyone can....keep pushing our message folks...

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Reply My brother, a lifelong republican, told me he was voting for Obama this morning..... (Original post)
rppper Aug 2012 OP
CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #1
southernyankeebelle Aug 2012 #16
GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #2
progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #20
roguevalley Aug 2012 #32
GoCubsGo Aug 2012 #35
dotymed Aug 2012 #52
nightscanner59 Aug 2012 #55
Fawke Em Aug 2012 #61
xtraxritical Aug 2012 #40
Jake2413 Aug 2012 #59
WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2012 #46
FatIrishBastard Aug 2012 #47
mercuryblues Aug 2012 #48
mike dub Aug 2012 #53
Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #3
NBachers Aug 2012 #4
ailsagirl Aug 2012 #5
gateley Aug 2012 #6
rppper Aug 2012 #44
BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #7
daligirl519 Aug 2012 #9
xtraxritical Aug 2012 #39
liberal from boston Aug 2012 #8
indivisibleman Aug 2012 #10
goclark Aug 2012 #18
Pharaoh Aug 2012 #24
CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2012 #29
1monster Aug 2012 #25
Cracklin Charlie Aug 2012 #26
riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #11
Ilsa Aug 2012 #12
BlueStreak Aug 2012 #13
rocktivity Aug 2012 #33
BlueStreak Aug 2012 #38
rocktivity Sep 2012 #68
rocktivity Aug 2012 #14
CountAllVotes Aug 2012 #36
GigiMommy Aug 2012 #67
glowing Aug 2012 #15
rppper Aug 2012 #30
Canuckistanian Aug 2012 #17
Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #19
The Blue Flower Aug 2012 #21
Cracklin Charlie Aug 2012 #22
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jamesatemple Aug 2012 #50
Kath1 Aug 2012 #23
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rppper Aug 2012 #31
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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:36 PM

1. That is wonderful news!

Thank you for letting us know...

There IS hope!

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:04 PM

16. That is great news. We really need news like this. The only thing worrying is voter suppression.

 

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:41 PM

2. The few Romney signs that were up in my town are all gone.

They were in front of the properties of some dressage horsey types, too. There were close to half a dozen of them a few months ago. Every last one of them is gone. I thought they may have been ruined by the recent rains, but they still have up signs for candidates running for local races. I was kind of surprised when I noticed they were gone.

I live in a redder-than-average part of South Carolina, BTW.

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:16 PM

20. You know, I've only seen on Romney sticker in my area, which is majority (R)

It's weird.. No stickers at all. Plenty of Obama/2012 stickers... Romney, in an affluent areas like this with mostly retirees and military officers, he should be represented, but he's not. All I see are TONS of Pay-per-click ads on EVER site I've been on lately. Telling me that I need to get the "truth" about Romney, how he "Saved" struggling businesses. Yeah.. by sending them to China.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:01 PM

32. my area of alaska has zero romney signs. ZERO. that is amazing to me.

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Response to roguevalley (Reply #32)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:18 PM

35. I have only seen one bumper sticker.

I live in Joe Wilson's district to give you an idea of what it's like here. I have seen more Obama signs and stickers, by far.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #20)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:19 AM

52. I live near a military base in Tn.

It seems that we mostly are very red and very ignorant in this area. I have traveled to many places. As a disabled person, the greed and lack of caring Dr.'s was the first thing I noticed.
I display an Obama/Biden bumper sticker on my car. I am forced to defend this almost daily and I am surprised that someone hasn't removed it, yet.
While I have only seen 1 or 2 Rmoney stickers, unfortunately Rmoney did win the primary here. My bumper sticker explanations have made the people I have spoken to, at least think (a little) and I have heard a lot of "I didn't know that" from these people. Sadly, I am still ridiculed when people first see my bumper sticker. I want to move to a blue state where I can at least have an intelligent conversation about my choice. Most of these comments come from people who have never voted....greedy neanderthals IMO.
I do have some wealthy friends (R), who are so worried about "the coming class war" and say "we'll all have to stick together to survive,,,"
They started the class war, decades ago. Hopefully, we are going to win and everyone will be treated equally. They couldn't stand that. Their mommies and daddies have always told them they are special because they can buy whatever they want ....

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Response to dotymed (Reply #52)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:49 AM

55. pasted "keep the faith brother" reply. I'm faced with much the same frustrating ignorance

Don't think of it as futile, the little chips in their... "ahem"... logic appear over time, generations and . How many times can unchecked greed masked as archaic exceptionalism wreck even the most alcohol addled voter's whole world before it starts to soak in that their own choices destroy their own health/survival/happiness? OR... what their offspring observe: Think of your own parent's antiquated views, logical "in their time" simply doesn't match our current overpopulated situation? My own attempted to drive their own race-exceptionalism value system into siblings and I, none of us see any sense in it today.
Words resonate when the facts that reveal themselves are undeniable.

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Response to dotymed (Reply #52)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 03:03 PM

61. Move to one of the cities.

I live in Knoxville and the city is quite "blue."

The county, of course, isn't, but the city has gone Democratic in presidential elections for several cycles now. And, we have a Latina mayor who got her start volunteering for César Chávez's United Farm Workers. Whoda thunk that in a red state?

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:04 AM

40. I live in Daryl Issa's district in Southern Ca. and I have not seen one Romney poster or sticker!

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #40)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:27 PM

59. what about Issa

any chance of voting him out?

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 04:35 AM

46. Now that you mention it,

i haven't seen all that many. I live in a small town outside of Las Vegas...it's rural & definitely conservative. There should be way more around.

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Response to WinstonSmith4740 (Reply #46)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:17 AM

47. Y'all come on over to Ohio..

Plenty of teabilly geniuses have 'em in their rented yards...of course, what could anyone expect out of the laughingstock of our nation? Ohio Browneyes', rigging a Liebold machine near YOU!

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Response to GoCubsGo (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:23 AM

48. I see

more bush/cheney and Palin bumper stickers than Romney.

My favorite bumper sticker I have seen lately was at Myrtle Beach: I am not a republican

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Response to mercuryblues (Reply #48)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 09:43 AM

53. Come to think of it, same here, mercuryblues!

I've seen a few old "W '04" ovals, and a couple Palin bumper-stickers recently. (I think the Palins were made by taking an X-acto knife to a McCain/Palin sticker from '08)

But I've only seen one Romney bumpersticker.

Happily, I've seen several Obama '12 stickers.
We're in rural North Carolina.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:43 PM

3. Instead of voting for Obama this morning...tell him to wait until November.

His vote will count more then.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:53 PM

4. Little Miracle by Little Miracle

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:55 PM

5. WOWOWOWOW

Fantastic!! I hope there are many, many more like him!!

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:55 PM

6. The message is getting through! That's so encouraging!

And happy to hear you won't be having the political feud this November.

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Response to gateley (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 03:23 AM

44. me too!!!

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 08:56 PM

7. I hope there are more like him

because they are needed when you have rethugs engaging in serious voter suppression where they know that every little vote will need to count.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:36 PM

9. There are. . .

I have been surprised again and again by some of the folks here in very red northern Indiana. I keep telling people not to lose hope. There is a very large and silent majority out there for Obama. I have even talked to a couple of women who are pro-Obama who feel they cannot tell their husbands, as well as some old folks who see through the bullshit. I also know plenty of wingnuts, but most of them concede that Obama will probably take it. I am African-American, so sometimes people come to me with these things, LOL.

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Response to daligirl519 (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:52 PM

39. I think young people, seniors, minorities, women, and union workers are easily going to carry

 

the President to a second term. I hope they vote Democratic in all the congressional races too.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:35 PM

8. Brother, life long Republican voting for Obama

Wicked Awesome!!! We all need to get the word out to our family, friends, neighbors, co-workers that this election is critical for our democracy to continue!!!

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:36 PM

10. good news

I have heard a number of stories like this. There are many conservative voters where I work. One and independent joked about how awful Romney is. Another, thoughtful Republican said he wasn't happy with Romney. a third, religious right-wing Republican said he was completely unhappy with Romney but his selection of Ryan got his vote.
I thought, Romney selected Ryan to hang onto votes not get any new ones.

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Response to indivisibleman (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:08 PM

18. I visited 5 states in the South last month......

I did not see 1 billboard,tee-shirt, hat, bumper sticker for Rmoney, not one.
I am still in shock.

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Response to goclark (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:23 PM

24. neither have I

but then you hear, network news say it's a tight race, the polls say...

It is how they steal elections, like they just did in Wisconsin,

I don't trust the system anymore.

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Response to Pharaoh (Reply #24)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:33 PM

29. The polls say it's tight...

It's not.

But that's how they sell newspapers, or TV time, or ads in magazines. Making it a horse race is what sells stuff.

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Response to goclark (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:25 PM

25. I live in a very red area. Romney was here earlier in the month and there were people

lined up for a mile (acording to a very, very Republican newspaper) to see him.

And yet I think I've only seen one or two Romeny stickers. This place is usually awash in the Republican stickers and not jsut in election years. We had eight or more years of Bush stickers. John McCain stickers are still affixed to some cars' bumpers.

It's very strange.

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Response to goclark (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:26 PM

26. I live in RLDS World Headquarters

I saw the first, and only, Rmoney sign yesterday.

I know they're not really the same as LDS, but given a choice, I would have thought they would choose Mittens.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:39 PM

11. Great....that is good news...I long to hear my own NJ bubba brother tell me the same thing

but he hates Obama because of Obama's color..

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:41 PM

12. Awesome! His vote is appreciated.

I hope he votes Democratic in the other races, too. Obama needs a Democratic House.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:42 PM

13. Conventional wisdom is that all but 8% have their minds firmly made up

I think conventional wisdom may be wrong. The logic the seasoned watchers use is simply that in "normal election cycles" (if there is such a thing anymore) most of the fence-sitters don't really settle in until the last 3 or 4 weeks. They only start paying attention in earnest after the conventions, after Labor Day.

I think that could be very wrong this year. What is different is that this time, there has been a solid, unrelenting 3 years of non-stop attacks on the President. Obama hasn't been campaigning for the most part. He has been governing. But the Republicans had absolutely no interest in governing. They have done nothing but obstruct. Instead of doing their part in governing, they have been actively campaigning the entire time, trying to ruin Obama.

That takes its toll. But the Republicans have a big problem. Almost all of those attacks were based on huge lies. And the biggest was "Obamacare". Obama was very clever to get that set up such that major benefits of the ACA kick in before the election. A lot of people who entered this election cycle counting themselves as decided against Obama are starting to saw, "hey, there really aren't death panels. I still have my doctor. And now I can't be cancelled as long as I pay my premiums. Maybe Obama did something good after all."

The problem with being a compulsive liar is that once people start to doubt one thing you say, they start looking to see if it is a pattern. And when they look, what do they see? They see a candidate with a really ugly business record and a string of tax evasion schemes a mile long. They see a man lying about the welfare-to-work program. They see a man lying about the Obama savings in Medicare. And then they look at the running mate. Ignoring the social issues, which are a huge factor for some people, we have a guy who won't answer the most basic questions about his own budget plan, such as when it would produce a balanced budget.

That's where we are today with 11 weeks to the election. I bet there are at least 5% of Romney's "committed" who are having serious misgivings. And maybe I am naive, but I don't see those same vulnerabilities in the base of Obama's "committeds". Obama has been pretty straight up. Anybody who has been committed to him doesn't have any new information that should change their thinking. I guess there could still be a September surprise, but I doubt that.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:08 PM

33. DING DING DING! BlueStreak, you're our grand prize winner!

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Conventional wisdom is that all but 8% have their minds firmly made up. I think conventional wisdom may be wrong. The logic the seasoned watchers use is simply that in "normal election cycles" (if there is such a thing anymore)...I think that could be very wrong this year...

I've always said that the polls should be taken with a pillar of salt. But since 2005, I've also said that "conventional" election watchers have been loath to acknowledge that there's new skin in the game: the Internet has given the voters themselves the power to shake their dependence on the MSM and define their own roles within the election cycle:

2005: The MSM has been perfectly happy to go along with Bush's fake news videos, scripted press conferences, prepackaged talking points, and payoffs. More important, they were also able to dismiss the Will Pitts, Greg Palasts, Daily Kozes, and Mike Malloys as part of a luntatic fringe who commanded neither credibility nor respect. But then the Gannongate swung open!

To use a now archaic journalism term, the MSM got scooped, caught completely flat-footed missing a story that anyone over the age of twelve with an Internet connection could have put together. Even worse for them, the authors of Gannongate did what journalists are SUPPOSED to do -- TELL THE TRUTH completely, accurately, comprehensively, and objectively. The MSM's response was to accuse bloggers of working in basements in their pajamas and looking at the world "through a pinhole"...


2007: (By DU-er PlaidAdder) In a recent address to NYU journalism students, NBC’s Brian Williams bemoaned the fact that his hard-fought climb to the top of his field is now being undermined by "people who have an opinion, a modem, and a bathrobe...(N)ow I'm up against a guy named Vinny...who hasn't left (his) efficiency apartment in two years...” What really gets Brian’s goat is the fact that Vinny’s ever-widening audience consists of...intelligent, self-motivated people who have a wacky penchant for wanting the facts...

Brian just doesn’t get it. Day after day, he serves his pre-digested, warmed-over, corporate-endorsed, nutrition-free pablum, and he wonders why the world is beating a path to Vinny’s Place, where the news is served pipin’ hot by a guy who probably doesn’t even have a personal manicurist. Maybe Brian should use his alleged journalistic prowess to do an in-depth report on why Vinny’s rise to the top was so inevitable...



2008: (The MSM has) got two problems: McCain's flagrant disrespect for them, and the blogosphere... The...GOP couldn't care less if the MSM doesn't like getting only 90-second peeks at McCain's medical records...But the MSM also knows that the less they fight back, the less credible they become, and the more their viewers will turn to--WAIT FOR IT!!!--the blogosphere for information that has at least a nodding acquaintance with reality and truth...


2009: ...Fortunately, we DIDN'T have to judge the election by who "won" the daily news cycles: thanks to the blogosphere providing us with a "public option" of sorts, the MSM couldn't "push" McCain "ahead" the way they could have a few short years ago. If we'd had to depend entirely on the MSM news cycles, a LOT fewer of us would have learned that the Clintons also had ties to Wright and Rezko, that there were plenty of controversial clergypeople in the McCain/Palin camp, and that Joe the Plumber WASN'T a plumber...


And since the last presidential election, we "little people" (including the "vinnies") have been given even more skin in the game via increased social media capabilities, and pollsters have only recently come up with a way to reach people on their cell phones!


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #33)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:38 PM

38. I agree with your points. It doesn't guarantee us victory, but it is a more accurate

way to view things.

The big network media has always had cozy relationships with the candidates. Rove took this to a new level, being ruthless with access. And Romney is trying to play that same game, mainly hanging out on Faux, and making reporters to agree certain questions are off-limits ("If you ask me about rape, abortion, or Akin, we'll throw you out and you will never get access again.")

That is one battle front. But the other battle front is, as you mentioned, in the blogoshpere. The tighter they get with the network media, the more it hurts them in the blogosphere because their tactics are observed and widely reported. It exposes the cowards, what they are hiding, and why.

Not everybody is hooked into the blog world, and that cuts 2 ways. There are a lot of people on the right that evidently frequent places like Drudge and FreeRepublic. We won't get many of those people, as they are the most extreme. But to totality of people from either side tuned into the blogs is probably less than 5% of the public. It is the SECONDARY communications that make the difference. How we interact with those who are being bombarded by the hysterical claims from the right will be decisive.

A person who wants to believe that Obama was born in Kenya will do so. But there are millions who have heard that and are not automatically pre-disposed to believe it.

We have truth on our side, and we have intelligent reasoning on our side. Hell, we have the ability to formulate complete sentences on our side. The blogs enable us to have these secondary interactions in an effective way, and THAT is what has made the media networks obsolete. They are no longer trusted, and frankly, don't even seem to try very hard to be relevant.

I am probably no different than many others here. I have a posse of about 20 right-wingers hammering on me every day with the extremistscrap that doesn't have even a tiny bit of truth. My goal is to win over 1 or 2 of them. But that isn't the main purpose. The main purpose is a:

a) let them all know that not everybody agrees with them (which seems never to have occurred to any of them. Indeed if you spend you entire existence with Faux and Friends or Glenn Beck, I guess you wouldn't have any reason to believe there was anything else.)

b) Let them know that they are spreading lies and every lie will be opposed. The goal here is twofold. If I can coerce them into actually checking their facts, they might actually learn that they have been idiots, and if that doesn't happen, at least they are served notice that others do check their facts and judge them.

I don't know that I have won over any of them yet. But 5 went up in smoke, heads exploding at the slightest push-back, so I don't have to deal with them anymore. Two have changed their behavior in a big way. They rarely send me the most hysterical stuff anymore. Mostly they send me things that are matters of opinion. I respond politely with why I have a different opinion. It always comes down to things I value. I ask them is they truly don't value the same things or if it is just a case that they haven't thought it through. Those are civil conversations now. I haven't won them over, but I am pretty sure they are no longer bombarding everyone they know with the right-wing trash they were sending out daily.

Anyway, that's a long-winded way of saying there are a lot more people who can come to our side than the polls indicate.

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Response to BlueStreak (Reply #38)

Sat Sep 1, 2012, 11:44 AM

68. The kerfluffle over Clint Eastwood's RNC performance

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has compelled me to return to this conversation, because I mentioned that social media would give us "you peoples" even more skin in the political game.

Barely before Clint was finished, Twitter was set ablaze by #insertchair, #invisibleobama, #clinteastwooding. Nobody sat around waiting for instruction from the MSM or the network-connected blogosohere on how they ought to react -- they reacted with thousands of tweets, with the more skilled among them linking to quickly-constructed cartoons:







UPDATE: in response, the Obama camp tweeted this:


This seat's taken.




Twitter says it was the most popular retweet during the RNC convention, and Obama's most popular retweet next to the one he sent out supporting same-sex marriage. Yet I'm supposed to believe the MSM when they still insist that it's still a dead heat right now.


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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:46 PM

14. "I can't vote for a candidate who won't make his taxes public"

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What a lovely idea for an epitaph...






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Response to rocktivity (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:30 PM

36. hey!!

Now that is funny!!


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Response to rocktivity (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:00 PM

67. Ditto! Great picture!

It's been a while. Hi!

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 09:51 PM

15. My husband went from Bush supporter to voting for Obama..

And changed his registration to Dem... In FL that counts!!

He finally realizes that we r too poor to be Repuglican... And he is easier on Obama than I am... "it takes time to climb out of the hole that idiot Bush left for us."

While I'm much more of a socialist/ democrat... Like Medicare for all, and a few other items I believe should be collectively taken care of as a society like education.... Well there's a long list and I'm not feeling like preaching to the choir for the most part.

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Response to glowing (Reply #15)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:36 PM

30. we both live here in Daytona.....

both of us texan transplants....he has never in my 45 years voted for a democrat....the look on my face must have been one of sheer confusion and bewilderment, because lawd knows he's had his fair share of bad things to say about the president, but he's telling me that he couldn't in good conscience vote for Romney or DeSantis(us house dst.6). the only pubbie he'll be voting for is on the state level, rep. dorothy hukill, and thats only because they have been friends for 20 years...

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:05 PM

17. Seriously, the Obama campaign should profit from this

Using soundbites like " Romney profits from people's misery" and disgust over the Bush admin's excesses

I'm sure they can get plenty of real people for an ad....

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:10 PM

19. I wonder how many people this election year

are crossover Dems versus crossover Republicans. I keep hearing stories about Republicans or former Republicans planning to vote for Obama, but I have seen only one person who claimed to be an '08 Obama supporter who supported a Republican this year, and the person they supported for president wasn't even Romney (it was Ron Paul).

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:17 PM

21. I had a similar shock

My ex-husband (decorated Vietnam Marine Corps vet) and wife, dyed in the wool southern repubs in the FLA panhandle, are disgusted with the idiocy and craziness of the party. Definitely will not vote R this time.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:19 PM

22. So happy for you!

I hope you have gotten your brother back! Remember to be patient with him on his journey to the light side. It can be a very difficult, but rewarding journey.

I have found that it helps to let them think that they are relaying information that you have never heard. Like this:

Him: Hey brother, did you hear that Rmoney roof racked his dog on a 12 hour car trip?
You: What? Who would do such a thing? (Of course, you already knew) Give him one more bit of information about Seamus, and watch him run to his computer to look it up.

I have found that with my ex-Republican husband, it helps to challenge him to find information on his own. Like I say "Now why would Mittens not want to show his tax returns?" Next thing I know, he is telling me about 3 or 4 articles he has read about the topic.

Regardless of what Republicans like to think, people get a real sense of accomplishment from using their brains. Of course, that is the last thing a Republican wants them to do.

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #22)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:09 PM

34. That is very, very clever.... and not easy to do...

Thanks for the tip...

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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #22)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:39 AM

50. That's a great tip, Charlie!

You've just taught this old dog a new trick. I'm gonna try it out today.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:21 PM

23. Excellent!

Had a similar experience with a friend who voted McCain/Palin. She's now 100% for Obama! She had a major change of heart. I finally got through to her (she's too nice a person to vote Republican) Gave her a "2012" bumper sticker which is now on her car!

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:29 PM

27. "keep pushing our message folks"

No, they just need to keep pushing their message, as long as the right does, it just keeps showing how far out of the mainstream they've become.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:29 PM

28. That is good news. My dad is a life long republican.

He is voting for Obama as well. Of course, he lives in an already blue state but every vote for Obama is a good thing.

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Response to IrishEyes (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 10:40 PM

31. my dad is hopeless when it comes to the president....

he won't vote for obama, but on the other side, he may note vote for romney either...dad's a cpa, and he has already told me the ryan budget is a wounded duck... his rep, in texas is none other than louie gohmert too, whom he thinks isn't all there...he'll never vote dem, but a "no" vote for any of the repubs is better than nothing....

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sat Aug 25, 2012, 11:31 PM

37. k&r n/t

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:19 AM

41. Wow. Maybe there's hope for my Paul-bot brother...

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 12:26 AM

42. My military kids same thing

they were all set to vote republican and when Mitt got picked and as the months have gone by and he lies about so much, changes all the time, the tax thing, the women thing…they said we are voting for Obama.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 01:15 AM

43. Great!

And I'm sure over all you get some of the credit!

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 03:51 AM

45. Not to throw cold H2O on it, but:

You trust an (R) to tell the truth? Be fact based? Have some modicum of 21st Century Enlightenment? You've got more faith in them than I do, that's for sure!

Operation Northwoods

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Response to blkmusclmachine (Reply #45)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:30 AM

49. He's their brother

If you think "Operation Northwoods" includes brothers lying about their voting intentions, you need to step away from the conspiracy theories.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 08:58 AM

51. Not my a**hole brother ... I recently got one of those robo-mails from him ...

where, "mathematically", you can find your favorite movie.

As soon as I saw the list, I knew which one it was rigged to "favor" ...

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Response to zbdent (Reply #51)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:11 PM

56. That must be the only one of those propaganda emails that my brother hasn't sent...yet.

I don't know where he gets them or who writes them but there are hundreds...maybe thousands. He sends me 2-4 EVERY day...all propaganda and lies. I would really like to know who writes this stuff...which requires a lot of research to distort and lie about.

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Response to Auntie Bush (Reply #56)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 06:48 PM

64. Same places that give you the weird comparisons ...

the Republican "think tanks" ... you know, the ones that don't come up with solutions, just attacks.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 10:42 AM

54. The Republicans used to field very good candidates.

Yesterday, I was listening to some of the Republican convention archives on c-span. I heard Barry Goldwater, Richard M. Nixon and two speeches of Ronald Reagan, one in 1992, the other in 1980.
These men were not ideologues, and you know it when you hear their enunciation of the platforms and their own imperatives to the crowd.
I've never agreed with any of them, but I think all were much better candidates than Romney and the Bushes.
They spoke nationalism, not ideology.
They were superior candidates.
And now the Republican party is left with trash ideology and vacant men.

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Response to burnsei sensei (Reply #54)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:43 PM

60. hmm...

"The Republican party is left with trash ideology and vacant men."


Thanks for that quotable quote.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:18 PM

57. Thank you very much for posting this one...K and R..nt

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 02:22 PM

58. If so it was illegal

 

there were no elections yesterday morning.

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 03:05 PM

62. !

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 06:25 PM

63. This most certainly is good news... It will make the holiday's more peaceful...

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 06:54 PM

65. Good news indeed!!!

CHEERS !!

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Response to rppper (Original post)

Sun Aug 26, 2012, 06:56 PM

66. That's the kind of feel good story I like to read. nt

 

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