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yurbud

(39,405 posts)
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:30 PM Aug 2012

on Skinnydipping in Galileegate: Is paying for congressional travel a form of bribery?

That is really the only outrage I felt when I read about the congressman skinnydipping in the Sea of Galilee.

If someone pays for you to take a trip, that creates a debt as much as a campaign donation, an insider stock tip, a job for a layabout relative, or the promise of a job after they leave office.

And that debt creates access (at a minimum).

I don't know about you, but I can't afford to buy airfare for a planeload of Congressmen to come investigate my issues.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what's wrong with this rule:


  • If it's official business, the government should pay.

  • If it's campaign related, donors should pay.

  • If it's skinnydipping in the Sea of Galilee, they should pay their own fucking way.


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YES--letting others pay for congressional travel is a form of bribery
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NO--it's all on the up and up.
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SOMETIMES--if there are no hookers and cocaine, it's on the up and up.
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on Skinnydipping in Galileegate: Is paying for congressional travel a form of bribery? (Original Post) yurbud Aug 2012 OP
YES Skittles Aug 2012 #1
There is NO such thing as something for nothing dballance Aug 2012 #2
Galileegate BumRushDaShow Aug 2012 #3
Even more than an end to corporate personhood, we NEED total transparency in lobbying & patrice Aug 2012 #4
We need to know Kevin Yoder's interest in Israel. TRANSPARENCY ... just like his underwear. nt patrice Aug 2012 #5
Please!! Don't forget that END TIMERS started the War on Iraq & have an interest in War on Iran or patrice Aug 2012 #6
but if we didn't let congresspeople get $20,000 trips to Israel for free hfojvt Aug 2012 #7
We..., or Them? RC Aug 2012 #8
No loyalsister Aug 2012 #9
I'm talking about ethically, not the laws that lobbyists wrote about bribery yurbud Aug 2012 #10

patrice

(47,992 posts)
4. Even more than an end to corporate personhood, we NEED total transparency in lobbying &
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:40 PM
Aug 2012

in campaign finance.

.............................

on a related issue:

Q. People want to get at collusion amongst Democrats with corporate persons???
A. Transparency.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
6. Please!! Don't forget that END TIMERS started the War on Iraq & have an interest in War on Iran or
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:46 PM
Aug 2012

any place else in SW Asia that they can get it going.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
7. but if we didn't let congresspeople get $20,000 trips to Israel for free
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 01:49 PM
Aug 2012

then we'd never get quality people to run for office.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
9. No
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:45 PM
Aug 2012

Neither are the dinners served at advocacy events, coffee cups, bottles of wine, and other gifts....
Lobbying and policy education efforts do not necessarily result in vote trading. There has to be a very clear quid pro quo to constitute bribery.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
10. I'm talking about ethically, not the laws that lobbyists wrote about bribery
Thu Aug 23, 2012, 03:57 PM
Aug 2012

which boil down to "buying votes in an unprofessional manner."

Bags of cash are SO déclassé.

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