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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Ecuadorian Embassy rejected MY suggestion for a solution. What would YOU recommend they do?
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woolldog
(8,791 posts)and then sneak him out through a car.
MADem
(135,425 posts)In a very cold area...or a very warm one. For hours...even days.
I think the Ecuadorans ought to put Julian on their rotation for cooking duties, vacuuming, dusting, etc. He may as well earn his keep because he may be where he's at for awhile.
Curtland1015
(4,404 posts)Response to MiddleFingerMom (Original post)
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Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)until he leaves of his own accord.
And the Brits should just sit tight. What's he going to do, stay in that embassy for the rest of his life?
movonne
(9,623 posts)in Guantanamo Bay...
treestar
(82,383 posts)Not even Al Qaeda.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)elsewhere that isn't on the radar of the ordinary American right now. It doesn't mean that Gitmo-like detainment, concentration camps aren't still operating.
lightcameron
(224 posts)act of self-aggrandisement.
They'll get the bellend when the time's right.
treestar
(82,383 posts)He goes out of the news and a few months later, something else has come up. He'll think of something.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)15 years during the Cold War -- the 1950s. I have posted this fact so many times. I invite you to Google Cardinal Mindszenty.
We allowed Chinese dissident Chen Guancheng to have asylum in our embassy in China last April. I believe he is now in the US. That also can be Googled, but I'm not sure I am spelling it correctly.
It is not uncommon for a country to grant political asylum to refugees from what one country believes is political repression and another country believes is justice. Difference of opinion.
Remember. Like it or not, Assange is not a US citizen. Why should our laws apply to him? He did not, as far as we know, commit a crime in this country. He received and published the documents in question in cyberspace, not here.
lightcameron
(224 posts)after being pursued for rape charges.
And you're right - Assange is not a US citizen. But it's Sweden who is making the allegations, and under their law, the charges come later in the process.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)If these charges were against a person not involved in other controversy, a court might be able to discern the truth, but here, the terrible politicization of the claims against him make a fair trial in Sweden as impossible as a fair trial in the US.
I do not think that Assange had the intent required by the 1917 Espionage Act. I don't think his intent was to harm the US. I think his intent very strictly was to print facts that the government was keeping classified merely to avoid facing the truth about its own actions.
I think that Assange's conduct, whether objectionable or not is just as protected by the First Amendment as the conduct of any other good journalist who gets a hold of classified information that will not cause any harm to a US military operation. The fact is that our wars are not conducted without causing terrible human suffering. No war ever is. And Assange's publications made that clear although I suspect that his purpose in publishing these things was not to make a statement about the US.
Apparently, Assange published documents that were embarrassing to other countries before he published the documents embarrassing to the US.
So, I think that this is a witch hunt aimed to discourage others from journalistic zeal and the energetic exercise of First Amendment rights.
The powers that be believe in the First Amendment as long as it suits their purposes, i.e., as long as it allows wealthy donors to bore us with their political diatribes and propaganda on TV. But when it comes to printing the truth about what our government does, oh, then it is espionage.
I do think that our government should protect military plans, etc. that are truly secret, but most of what Wikileaks, probably all of what Wilkileaks obtained (at least what I saw) had very little to do with the security of the US and lots to do with protecting the egos of very self-absorbed individuals in our government.
hunter
(38,311 posts)... dress him up as a woman, send him into the embassy.
Assange and imposter swap clothing, Assange leaves while imposter is giving speech from balcony.
Done.
Cleita
(75,480 posts)about something like this? I would assume the British might be on to it.
Robb
(39,665 posts)hunter
(38,311 posts)As a comedian and a Canadian born in Scotland, Colin could bring a lot to this international farce.
Congratulations to all the government officials playing the parts of Inspector Jacques Clouseau, Twitchy Chief Charles LaRousse Dreyfus, and all the insane U.S. covert operatives.
Add Bill Murry and a gopher and this would be perfect!
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)dembotoz
(16,799 posts)all eyes are on the ecuador embassy
get him to a cooler embassy not under as much scrutiny.
some cloak and daggery stuff.