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The Ecuadorian Embassy rejected MY suggestion for a solution. What would YOU recommend they do? (Original Post) MiddleFingerMom Aug 2012 OP
They should send dozens and dozens of those packages woolldog Aug 2012 #1
That's probably because diplomatic parcels can be x-rayed, and they can be delayed in transit... MADem Aug 2012 #2
Haw! Personally, I'm thinking of hiding him in something the Swiss wouldn't find suspicious. Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author snot Aug 2012 #4
Feed him with really terrible food Nye Bevan Aug 2012 #5
Why not..I bet the embassy is much, much nicer than a cell movonne Aug 2012 #6
No one is being sent to Gitmo treestar Aug 2012 #8
I think Gitmo has been replaced with some other dark hole Cleita Aug 2012 #11
He'll emerge sooner or later. This is absolutely nothing more than his final lightcameron Aug 2012 #7
Exactly. How to get any attention like that? treestar Aug 2012 #9
Cardinal Mindszenty stayed in the U.S. Embassy in Budapest, Hungary for JDPriestly Aug 2012 #14
Name some of the people who have been granted asylum lightcameron Aug 2012 #17
The charges of rape may be true, but they will be very difficult to prove. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #20
Find some guy that looks like Assange... hunter Aug 2012 #10
Wasn't there a novel, circa the French Revolution that was precisely Cleita Aug 2012 #12
Colin Mochrie to the rescue! Robb Aug 2012 #15
Excellent idea. hunter Aug 2012 #16
We kept Cardinal Mindszenty in our Hungarian embassy for 15 years. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #13
Two words: Roof. Jetpack. reformist2 Aug 2012 #18
smuggle him to another embassy and smuggle him out from there dembotoz Aug 2012 #19

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. That's probably because diplomatic parcels can be x-rayed, and they can be delayed in transit...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:04 PM
Aug 2012

In a very cold area...or a very warm one. For hours...even days.

I think the Ecuadorans ought to put Julian on their rotation for cooking duties, vacuuming, dusting, etc. He may as well earn his keep because he may be where he's at for awhile.

Response to MiddleFingerMom (Original post)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
5. Feed him with really terrible food
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:13 PM
Aug 2012

until he leaves of his own accord.

And the Brits should just sit tight. What's he going to do, stay in that embassy for the rest of his life?

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
11. I think Gitmo has been replaced with some other dark hole
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:35 PM
Aug 2012

elsewhere that isn't on the radar of the ordinary American right now. It doesn't mean that Gitmo-like detainment, concentration camps aren't still operating.

lightcameron

(224 posts)
7. He'll emerge sooner or later. This is absolutely nothing more than his final
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:29 PM
Aug 2012

act of self-aggrandisement.

They'll get the bellend when the time's right.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
9. Exactly. How to get any attention like that?
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Aug 2012

He goes out of the news and a few months later, something else has come up. He'll think of something.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
14. Cardinal Mindszenty stayed in the U.S. Embassy in Budapest, Hungary for
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 05:55 PM
Aug 2012

15 years during the Cold War -- the 1950s. I have posted this fact so many times. I invite you to Google Cardinal Mindszenty.

We allowed Chinese dissident Chen Guancheng to have asylum in our embassy in China last April. I believe he is now in the US. That also can be Googled, but I'm not sure I am spelling it correctly.

It is not uncommon for a country to grant political asylum to refugees from what one country believes is political repression and another country believes is justice. Difference of opinion.

Remember. Like it or not, Assange is not a US citizen. Why should our laws apply to him? He did not, as far as we know, commit a crime in this country. He received and published the documents in question in cyberspace, not here.

lightcameron

(224 posts)
17. Name some of the people who have been granted asylum
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:16 PM
Aug 2012

after being pursued for rape charges.

And you're right - Assange is not a US citizen. But it's Sweden who is making the allegations, and under their law, the charges come later in the process.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
20. The charges of rape may be true, but they will be very difficult to prove.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:48 AM
Aug 2012

If these charges were against a person not involved in other controversy, a court might be able to discern the truth, but here, the terrible politicization of the claims against him make a fair trial in Sweden as impossible as a fair trial in the US.

I do not think that Assange had the intent required by the 1917 Espionage Act. I don't think his intent was to harm the US. I think his intent very strictly was to print facts that the government was keeping classified merely to avoid facing the truth about its own actions.

I think that Assange's conduct, whether objectionable or not is just as protected by the First Amendment as the conduct of any other good journalist who gets a hold of classified information that will not cause any harm to a US military operation. The fact is that our wars are not conducted without causing terrible human suffering. No war ever is. And Assange's publications made that clear although I suspect that his purpose in publishing these things was not to make a statement about the US.

Apparently, Assange published documents that were embarrassing to other countries before he published the documents embarrassing to the US.

So, I think that this is a witch hunt aimed to discourage others from journalistic zeal and the energetic exercise of First Amendment rights.

The powers that be believe in the First Amendment as long as it suits their purposes, i.e., as long as it allows wealthy donors to bore us with their political diatribes and propaganda on TV. But when it comes to printing the truth about what our government does, oh, then it is espionage.

I do think that our government should protect military plans, etc. that are truly secret, but most of what Wikileaks, probably all of what Wilkileaks obtained (at least what I saw) had very little to do with the security of the US and lots to do with protecting the egos of very self-absorbed individuals in our government.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
10. Find some guy that looks like Assange...
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:33 PM
Aug 2012

... dress him up as a woman, send him into the embassy.

Assange and imposter swap clothing, Assange leaves while imposter is giving speech from balcony.

Done.

Cleita

(75,480 posts)
12. Wasn't there a novel, circa the French Revolution that was precisely
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:37 PM
Aug 2012

about something like this? I would assume the British might be on to it.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
16. Excellent idea.
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:26 PM
Aug 2012

As a comedian and a Canadian born in Scotland, Colin could bring a lot to this international farce.



Congratulations to all the government officials playing the parts of Inspector Jacques Clouseau, Twitchy Chief Charles LaRousse Dreyfus, and all the insane U.S. covert operatives.

Add Bill Murry and a gopher and this would be perfect!

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
19. smuggle him to another embassy and smuggle him out from there
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:48 PM
Aug 2012

all eyes are on the ecuador embassy

get him to a cooler embassy not under as much scrutiny.


some cloak and daggery stuff.

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