Ed Gillespie: Mitt's plan to convert Medicare to a voucher system raises elibility age to 67

[ProSense]

Romney Adviser Says GOP Would Extend Medicare’s Solvency By Raising The Eligibility Age

By Aviva Shen

Earlier this week, Mitt Romney pledged to restore Obamacare’s savings in the Medicare program — a move that would move up the insolvency date of the program’s trust fund from 2024 to 2016.

On Fox News Sunday, Chris Wallace asked Romney senior adviser Ed Gillespie how the campaign would extend the life of the program if the Romney-Ryan reforms won’t kick in until 2023, long after Medicare reached insolvency. Gillespie replied by insisting that a Romney administration would raise the age eligibility to 67:

WALLACE: But the problem is, those reforms don’t kick in until 2023. It doesn’t affect any seniors or anybody close to being a senior. But that doesn’t solve the Medicare part A problem which kicks in in 2016. What are you going to do to keep solvent between 2016, after you have repealed Obamacare, and 2023?

GILLESPIE: Governor Romney supports increasing over time bringing Medicare eligibility in line with the Social Security retirement age … The Congressional Budget Office says assumptions about the Medicare trust fund being solvent through 2024 under the Obamacare proposal is unrealistic.

Watch it:

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http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/08/19/711011/romney-adviser-says-gop-would-extend-medicares-solvency-by-raising-the-eligibility-age/

Krugman: What’s In The Ryan Plan?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021142015

The Obama campaign goes digital on Mitt's regressive whiteboard lies. (updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021149847

[warrior1]

1. that's the kiss of death for mitt's campagne

This is really anyone needs to know about mitt.

[democrat_patriot]

5. How can anyone under 55 vote for this?

How can anyone over 5?

Can we just call this over now. No need for the week long racist hate fest in Tampa.

[flamingdem]

9. They are convincing younger voters that if they don't raise the age and make cuts

they'll get zero.. in other words they're after the low-info younger voter with this -- or more of the senior vote

[democrat_patriot]

21. Which hopefully is like 10% of the vote...

[global1]

6. And How Many Kisses Of Death For Mitt's Campaign Have We Had So Far?......nt

[MannyGoldstein]

7. Obama seems to have also proposed this age increase last year

We'll see if the Obama campaign pushes back against Romney on the age increase. If they don't...

[ProSense]

8. No, he didn't, and Romney-Ryan's plan is an actual proposal.

Stop campaigning for Mitt.

[MannyGoldstein]

10. It was widely reported. And anyone who's sane and thinking will vote for Obama.

e.g.:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/11/obama-medicare-eligibility-age_n_894833.html
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/post/why-the-obama-administration-is-open-to-raising-the-medicare-age/2011/07/11/gIQA7sTiaI_blog.html
http://swampland.time.com/2011/07/23/the-inside-story-of-obama-and-boehners-second-failed-grand-bargain/
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/07/white-house-we-thought-we-were-down-to-the-details.php

Obama has proposed some bad things, such as cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits. And "free" trade. Etc.

So while Obama is basically a return to Herbert Hoover, Romney/Ryan would be a Hell unlike anything we've known in the history of our country.

[ProSense]

11. You may not know this, but "widely reported" isn't an actual proposal

It's "widely reported" that Mitt is a good guy.

"Obama has proposed some bad things, such as cuts to Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid benefits. And "free" trade. Etc. "

Got a link to the Obama proposals you cite here?

[MannyGoldstein]

18. "We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs...

"We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security."

Who said that?

This did not happen, eh?

[ProSense]

22. I know you're

"We then offered an additional $650 billion in cuts to entitlement programs -- Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security."

Who said that?

...smart enough to know that a quote that has nothing to do with cuts to benefits or increasing the retirement age, which is what is being discussed, is not a proposal.

The OP is about Mitt's actual proposal, documented, analyzed, reiterated and proudly supported.

If you cannot link to an actual proposal by the President Obama, then all you're doing is drawing false equivalencies between the President and Mitt.

Is that your intention?

[ProSense]

12. Game Changer: Biden Guarantees No Changes in Social Security

Game Changer: Biden Guarantees No Changes in Social Security
http://ourfuture.org/blog-entry/2012083316/game-changer-biden-guarantees-no-changes-social-security

FYI

[MannyGoldstein]

13. I hope it's true

But I remember the promise of a public option...

[ProSense]

14. It came straight from Biden's mouth, unlike "widely reported" n/t

[MannyGoldstein]

17. "Any plan I sign must include... a public option"

Who said that?

[ProSense]

19. Since you brought

"Any plan I sign must include... a public option"

Who said that?

...up the public option. Do you remember how it was slammed because it was projected to apply to 10 million people?

Well, directly related to many Medicare recipients, is the biggest expansion of Medicaid since the law was enacted.

16 million: number of Americans who become eligible for Medicaid under the health care law
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002531684

SCOTUS ruling on health care law a huge win for Medicaid
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002868894

States stand to lose a lot more than Medicaid funding by refusing the expansion
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002914241

Six governors say they will opt out of Medicaid. How long will they hold out?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002923048

Rick Perry Factors Into State Budget Obamacare Funds He Had Pledged To Reject
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021083668

Is there a false equivalency about how Romney did it too?

[MannyGoldstein]

20. "Do you remember how it was slammed because it was projected to apply to 10 million people?"

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No.

[n2doc]

2. Yeah, because insurers are clamoring to insure those 65 year olds!

The rich clearly don't have enough money. Thus the rest of us must pay more, die faster and get paid less. This is the republican way.

[flamingdem]

3. I could eat a bowl of alphabet soup..

[RagAss]

4. They want dead bodies in the fucking streets !!!

The stench gives these reptiles strength !!

[ProSense]

15. Yet the GOP/media shills were offended by the Soptic ad. n/t

[marlakay]

16. I guess they figure most will die and not need it by then

who can afford regular insurance in their 60's? especially if they got rid of obamacare then help to pay would be gone.

We have insurance and just the 20% we have to pay and the deductibles and all of the stuff it doesn't cover is hurting us…and we are 56 & 62.