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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:58 PM

What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican Party?



Bravo Lawrence O'Donnell.

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Reply What did liberals do that was so offensive to the Republican Party? (Original post)
Curtland1015 Aug 2012 OP
JRLeft Aug 2012 #1
evilhime Aug 2012 #44
Rocky2007 Aug 2012 #52
Betsy Ross Aug 2012 #80
Kennah Aug 2012 #85
Betsy Ross Aug 2012 #100
yourout Aug 2012 #2
alfredo Aug 2012 #8
ChairmanAgnostic Aug 2012 #27
msongs Aug 2012 #3
obxhead Aug 2012 #12
NorthCarolina Aug 2012 #61
dflprincess Aug 2012 #76
aint_no_life_nowhere Aug 2012 #4
Proud liberal 80 Aug 2012 #15
Cha Aug 2012 #41
gulliver Aug 2012 #5
freshwest Aug 2012 #10
KeepItReal Aug 2012 #6
avebury Aug 2012 #90
NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #7
budkin Aug 2012 #55
alfredo Aug 2012 #9
mazzarro Aug 2012 #28
alfredo Aug 2012 #57
jberryhill Aug 2012 #101
alfredo Aug 2012 #103
gkhouston Aug 2012 #11
HopeHoops Aug 2012 #13
Cha Aug 2012 #40
Initech Aug 2012 #14
Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #17
Cleita Aug 2012 #31
Zoeisright Aug 2012 #32
annabanana Aug 2012 #62
MsPithy Aug 2012 #81
Initech Aug 2012 #83
ErikJ Aug 2012 #87
Initech Aug 2012 #97
Initech Aug 2012 #16
JDPriestly Aug 2012 #18
newspeak Aug 2012 #22
freshwest Aug 2012 #104
elleng Aug 2012 #19
Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #20
elleng Aug 2012 #29
Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #35
xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #50
elleng Aug 2012 #54
progressoid Aug 2012 #37
Cha Aug 2012 #39
lobodons Aug 2012 #21
bhikkhu Aug 2012 #23
Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #24
Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #25
randr Aug 2012 #26
Joey Liberal Aug 2012 #30
Cha Aug 2012 #38
Karmasue Aug 2012 #63
Joey Liberal Aug 2012 #66
Karmasue Aug 2012 #95
Risen Demon Aug 2012 #65
Karmasue Aug 2012 #96
hfojvt Aug 2012 #33
Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #34
Cha Aug 2012 #36
tclambert Aug 2012 #42
donquijoterocket Aug 2012 #94
elbloggoZY27 Aug 2012 #43
Tx4obama Aug 2012 #45
Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #46
Tx4obama Aug 2012 #47
Curtland1015 Aug 2012 #48
calimary Aug 2012 #77
xxqqqzme Aug 2012 #49
Rain Mcloud Aug 2012 #51
dimbear Aug 2012 #79
B Calm Aug 2012 #53
riverbendviewgal Aug 2012 #64
Yooperman Aug 2012 #67
Blanks Aug 2012 #98
B Calm Aug 2012 #99
Fire Walk With Me Aug 2012 #56
DissidentVoice Aug 2012 #58
BlueinOhio Aug 2012 #59
Warpy Aug 2012 #60
Blue Owl Aug 2012 #68
sendero Aug 2012 #69
tnvoter Aug 2012 #70
ananda Aug 2012 #71
Javaman Aug 2012 #72
Larry Ogg Aug 2012 #73
Blanks Aug 2012 #74
Third Doctor Aug 2012 #75
sibelian Aug 2012 #78
nikto Aug 2012 #82
JohnnyRingo Aug 2012 #84
FirstLight Aug 2012 #86
FailureToCommunicate Aug 2012 #88
intheflow Aug 2012 #89
GeorgeGist Aug 2012 #91
BrainMann1 Aug 2012 #92
ewagner Aug 2012 #93
jberryhill Aug 2012 #102
Mr Hitter Aug 2012 #105

Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:00 PM

1. I will post this pic on my Facebook wall.

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:26 PM

44. Just posted it on mine!

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Response to evilhime (Reply #44)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:00 PM

52. Me too... nt

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #1)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:35 AM

80. How does one post this picture on facebook?

I have an account but don't know much about using it.

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Response to Betsy Ross (Reply #80)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:35 AM

85. There are two ways

Right click on the pic, Copy Image Location, and paste that on your FB wall. However, I think the second method is better.

Right click on the pic, Save Image As, save it to your computer. Go to your FB page, instead of updating your status, choose Photo, Upload Photo, Browse to the photo on your computer, comment if you like. The pic is larger on your FB wall using this method.

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Response to Kennah (Reply #85)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:45 AM

100. Thanks. I'll try both methods. nt

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:05 PM

2. breathe

They would just as soon we didn't.

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Response to yourout (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:23 PM

8. +1

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Response to yourout (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:14 PM

27. think

that's alien to them

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:09 PM

3. what have liberals done that was so offensive to the democratic party? nt

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:31 PM

12. Hold the party back from going even further to the right.

They may hate us, but they know they need us too.

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:57 PM

61. Exactly.

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Response to msongs (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:27 PM

76. That was my first thought when I read the title of the thread n/t

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:10 PM

4. You often hear Republicans take credit for such things as the Voting Rights Act

and blame Democrats for opposing progressive legislation such as this. That was from a time when there were liberals like Everett Dirksen in the Republican Party and conservatives among the Democrats, especially in the South. Now, you can't find the slightest trace of a liberal in the Republican Party. And the true dividing line is the one described by O'Donnell, between liberals and conservatives, who used to inhabit both parties.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:40 PM

15. I can't stand when republicans

Try to make this argument knowing full well their is a difference between party an idealogy; and that both parties have did a 180 degree turn around when it ones to idealogy. Back when the Republican party was established it had a very liberal idealogy, while the Dems where conservative. The founders of the Republican party would be Democrats today. In the 20 century republicans were liberal and so were Northern Dems, while the southern Dems were the conservative ones that left the Democratic party and hijacked the Republican part to what it is today

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #4)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:11 PM

41. It's hard to find humanity in the republican party

these days. They're leaving or getting voted out by braindead fox pawns.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:18 PM

5. Liberal ideas work. Republicans want...

...to be accepted as successful leaders and idea creators without actually being either of those things. Instead, they are put-down artists who hide their real records and intentions. They attack government, because they do it so badly. I wonder what a list of Republican laws and programs that worked would look like. I'm thinking "lengthy" isn't a word that would be used to describe it.

Republicans (who, as I say, like to hide using terms like "conservative" and "Tea Partier") are a mix of political sour grapes and the wealthy. Otherwise good people in the Republican fold have huge political blinders on, and the wealthy and fanatical do their best to make sure the blinders are glued on.

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Response to gulliver (Reply #5)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:26 PM

10. +1

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:19 PM

6. Make a Black guy President

These MF'ers in the House of Representatives won't pass *ANY* bill that will create a single job because *Obama* might get credit for it.

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Response to KeepItReal (Reply #6)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 09:55 AM

90. Yup! nt

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:22 PM

7. We exist. n/t

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Response to NRaleighLiberal (Reply #7)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:28 PM

55. Was just about to post this

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:26 PM

9. Republican wives call Obama's name during sex.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #9)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:18 PM

28. Wow - that will definitely trigger the vitriolic envy in male-rePIGs --n/t

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Response to mazzarro (Reply #28)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:10 PM

57. I always thought that was the motive behind the hatred of Clinton.

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Response to alfredo (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 12:47 AM

101. They think it prevents them from getting pregnant

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #101)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:44 AM

103. Ha!

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:28 PM

11. There's another speech from The West Wing that's been on my mind lately.

I'll have to try to dig it up. Whoa, it's not what I remembered:

"Henry, last fall, every time your boss got on the stump and said, "It's time for the rich to pay their fair share," I hid under a couch and changed my name. I left Gage Whitney making $400,000 a year, which means I paid twenty-seven times the national average in income tax. I paid my fair share, and the fair share of twenty-six other people. And I'm happy to because that's the only way it's gonna work, and it's in my best interest that everybody be able to go to schools and drive on roads, but I don't get twenty-seven votes on Election Day. The fire department doesn't come to my house twenty-seven times faster and the water doesn't come out of my faucet twenty-seven times hotter. The top one percent of wage earners in this country pay for twenty-two percent of this country. Let's not call them names while they're doing it, is all I'm saying."

Except there's a whole lot of fail there, because it's talking about absolute amounts of money and not percentages. And it assumes that the 1% are actually paying their taxes. And the 1% these days are doing their damnedest with superPACS to get more than 27 votes.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:37 PM

13. Simple - they exist.

 

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:08 PM

40. That was my first thought...they

Breathe! But, Larry's is Better.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:38 PM

14. Conservatives oppose clean water??? Wha????????

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:40 PM

17. Well, "The Clean Water Act" anyway.

I'm sure they like to drink clean water. They just don't like liberals telling them they can't pollute yours.

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:27 PM

31. In a sense they do.

They don't want municipalities regulating the water supply. They would rather private companies did and you know how well that will work out when the profit motive is introduced. Only those who can afford it will get clean water and the rest of us can drink out of a ditch. Look at what goes on in third world countries where the water has been privatized.

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:30 PM

32. Of course they oppose clean water.

If cleaning up the water means a business has to pay for it. This is news to you???

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 06:54 PM

62. Not if you buy it in liter bottles from big companies!

They"re all FOR that kind of clean water

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:07 AM

81. Yes! Profit above all, including clean water and air.

"In 2005 Congress—at the behest of then Vice President Dick Cheney, a former CEO of gas driller Halliburton—exempted fracking from regulation under the Safe Drinking Water Act."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=safety-first-fracking-second

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Response to MsPithy (Reply #81)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:27 AM

83. I'm becoming convinced their lust for profit is ultimately going to be the demise of the human race.

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Response to Initech (Reply #14)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 04:06 AM

87. Cons ALWAYS vote against their own best self-interests

and NEVER forget that.

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Response to ErikJ (Reply #87)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:03 PM

97. Their only interest is the almighty dollar.

And whatever bizarre, hateful god they worship.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:40 PM

16. Liberals also won the Civil War. Something southern conservatives haven't been that happy about.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:50 PM

18. Wonderful statement.

Republicans lost me forever with their Southern Strategy and their obstruction on the Equal Rights Amendment for women -- forever. I know whose side they are on, and it ain't mine, no way, ain't mine.

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Response to JDPriestly (Reply #18)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:59 PM

22. it's just some of those neo conservatives wished that this was a dictatorship

and people like little boots were the dictator. Because we all know things would run so much more smoothly. None of those pesky regulations protecting the plebes from our wealthy benefactors; none of those poor, starving people cluttering up the cities; none of those menial laborers demanding that they get paid real wages for their hard labor; and none of those elderly, disabled people to worry about-if they can't make it or have family who care, then I guess it's "good bye baby." As long as we make money-yes, predatory capitalism really works for them and their friends; unfortunately, usually at the detriment of everyone else.

and, these "new" repugs make the "old" repugs look down right liberal. That's how far down the rabbit hole they've gone.

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Response to newspeak (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 02:21 AM

104. +1

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:51 PM

19. 'Liberals' 'impeached' Nixon.

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Response to elleng (Reply #19)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:56 PM

20. Uh...no (nt)

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #20)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:19 PM

29. Uh, came as close as possible,

so he decided he had to run away. They've never forgiven Dems for after-Watergate.

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Response to elleng (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:51 PM

35. Close?

You're either impeached or you were not.

Nixon was not...

And at the end of the day, there was a also a host of moderate Republicans (many of whom Nixon had screwed in one fashion of another over the years) who turned on Nixon and joined the Democrats.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #35)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:52 PM

50. It took Barry Goldwater

to go to the White House and have a come to Jesus meeting w/ dick. That act was country first. I cannot think of one rethuglican today who would do such a thing.

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Response to Jeff In Milwaukee (Reply #35)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:26 PM

54. After he learned he had to disclose tapes,

he quit. Tapes would have forced impeachment. That's 'close.'

FACT IS, large number of repugs never forgave Dems for this, and THEY became the ones who birthed the so-called 'conservative' repugs, who are nothing of the sort, they are radicals. They went after Clinton, limpballs and beck followed, and t-buggers, and they continue against President Obama.

Unfortunately, moderate republicans are GONE from the scene.

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Response to elleng (Reply #29)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:00 PM

37. I kind of agree.

I think repukes were thrilled with the idea of getting even with us by impeaching Clinton. Too bad it didn't really work. Clinton is more popular than ever and their sham investigations did nothing for them.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #37)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:06 PM

39. Yeah, Pres Clinton is going to

speak at our convention and bush?...

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:57 PM

21. Liberals also

Liberals also won WWI and WWII, brought us out of the Great Depression and saved us from going into another.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:03 PM

23. Exactly - they demanded equality

I don't ever really use the terms "liberal" and "conservative" as they've become meaningless and completely misunderstood lately, but the basic difference is between a view where we are all equal partners in society, or whether there is properly an elite group in power who drag along behind them the rest of us - some willing workers, the rest dead weight.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:05 PM

24. Obama took Chuck Norris's hat once, and that made a lot of R's mad.

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Response to Jamaal510 (Reply #24)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:06 PM

25. That is awesome.

Love it. Love it. Love it.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:13 PM

26. We beat them at having real American values

just by one fact alone, we did not vote for Bush.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:23 PM

30. Republicans are hateful

I live in one of the reddest of red states and I can tell you that republicans do hate Liberals. They don't care about Social Security, medicare and medicaid. They are homophobes and racists. They are greedy. The are "Christians" in the worst sense of the word. They do not care about the environment. They hate unions. They have a strong dislike for Latinos. They reserve their strongest hate for President Obama. And they watch FOX News as if they can't live without it.

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Response to Joey Liberal (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:04 PM

38. Sounds about how I

imagine it. Their ignorance is everywhere..just not on such a large scale.

Even they only knew how damn dumb fox has brainwashed 'em.

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Response to Joey Liberal (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:26 PM

63. Well Joey Liberal so do I

They also carry guns everywhere they go like some Wyatt Earp character, have more organized hate and anti-government groups than most other states, and although it is one of the richest states in the US, we have the highest number of children who go to bed hungry.

Texas.

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Response to Karmasue (Reply #63)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 08:03 PM

66. Yes, they like their guns too

We have over 640,000 people with no health insurance in this state. Yet, the majority of those folks oppose the Affordable Healthcare Act and hate Pesident Obama. Also, most of them will really need Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, but are too ignorant to understand that by voting for Romney/Ryan, they are voting against their own best interests.

Oklahoma.

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Response to Joey Liberal (Reply #66)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:51 PM

95. In Hitler's book "Mein Kampf" (My Struggle)

Dr. Paul Joseph Goebbels, who was Adolf Hitler's Propaganda Minister in Nazi Germany, originates the idea of "das Grosse Luge" (The Big Lie):

"But the most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success." It has been paraphrased often as "if you repeat a lie often enough people will believe it".

Republicans have mastered that technique, and have literally purchased enough people and media to repeat those "big lies" over and over until they are believed.

It takes a special kind of immunity to avoid being snared by the mantra - it is called common sense.

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Response to Joey Liberal (Reply #30)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:47 PM

65. I grew up around alot of Reds too

But most of them were head-nodders who either agreed out of apathy, ignorance, or fear.

Why? Because the real hateful ones were actually a minority. But we all know in society it's not the smartest voice that's heard; it's the loudest. And believe me, these knuckle-draggers were loud and often intimidating or charismatic in some way.

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Response to Risen Demon (Reply #65)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:50 PM

96. and that is also true

I know a number of otherwise very intelligent, educated people who are apathetic. They are simply not interested in finding out anything factual, anything that might contradict or interfere with...their church, their lifestyle, their prejudices, their friends' opinions, their single "conservative" issue, or any other justifications. Those people are the most frustrating.

It is easier to grasp what draws the haters, the ignorant, the cult-brained, and the just plain stupid. They are the Foxers, the Newters, the Rushers. The birthers. The parrots.

But the ones who have this ignorant-by-choice mentality are the ones who are the real enigma to me.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:33 PM

33. I wonder if LarryO knows

that a greater percentage of Republicans voted FOR the civil rights act, than Democrats?

"The original House version:

Democratic Party: 152–96 (61–39%)
Republican Party: 138–34 (80–20%)

Cloture in the Senate:

Democratic Party: 44–23 (66–34%)
Republican Party: 27–6 (82–18%) "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964#By_party

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Response to hfojvt (Reply #33)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:41 PM

34. Democrats perhaps, but not liberals.

"Liberal Democrat" and "Conservative Republican" didn't used to be the only two options.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:55 PM

36. GORGEOUS!

Thank you, Curtland and THANK YOU, LAWRENCE O'DONNELL JR!

Sending this to my son and he'll facebook it.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:19 PM

42. "If by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas

without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people — their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties — someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."

--John F. Kennedy

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Response to tclambert (Reply #42)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 12:07 PM

94. I thought

O'Donnell's list was not as inclusive as it could have been.Part of bringing us out of the Depression was the TVA,the REA,the CCC,
Two of these became the core of our national power grid and one the real basis for whatever sense of environmentalism exists in this country.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:22 PM

43. Dat's Easy

 

The current President is their enemy. Just about every vote is a no because falsely they blame the President.

Like John Wayne exclaimed in The Searchers. *DO I HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT TO YOU".

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:27 PM

45. Lawrence O'Donnell wrote that for an episode of West Wing. Video below




From The Debate episode, season seven of the West Wing
"The Debate" between Arnold Vinick and Matt Santos
Written by Lawrence O'Donnell

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #45)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:30 PM

46. Nice. I do love me some Hawkeye!

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Response to Curtland1015 (Reply #46)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:39 PM

47. Alan Alda is NOT the liberal in the video, so you might not like him in it. n/t

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Response to Tx4obama (Reply #47)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:41 PM

48. True... but it's Alan Alda!

How can you hate Alan Alda!?

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Response to Curtland1015 (Reply #48)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:41 PM

77. Totally with you on Alan Alda. Actually, Arnold Vinnick in "The West Wing" was a moderate GOPer.

Believed fervently in the separation of church and state, and took quite a stand on it.

I'd watch his scenes and think - "man, what would I give to have Republicans on Capitol Hill, instead of republi-CONS. People you could actually do business with and reach a meeting of the minds - on SOMETHING. None of this on-going animus and unbending my-way-or-the-highway scorched-earth ideology.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:42 PM

49. Liberals, by and large,

wrote the Constitution. The first ten amendments were not written by conservatives. Every amendment, except that one (and it was repealed), is a liberal step forward.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 03:59 PM

51. FDR is what they hate and he welcomed their hatred.

 

They had their day and f*cked it all up handsomely,they did it again under Reagan ans both Bushes and they will gladly do it again if we are not vigilant.
You cannot feed a poor man by giving away his supper to a rich man and then hope some scraps are left over.
Yet they would have you believe that this is perfectly reasonable policy.
It never worked in the past,does not work now and will never work,ever.
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Response to Rain Mcloud (Reply #51)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:51 PM

79. Agreed. Brought the country through the Depression. Unforgiven.

That was coincidentally the era when hate talk radio started up.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:10 PM

53. What has GOP done for workers?


WHAT HAS GOP DONE FOR

WORKERS?

CLINT C. GOLD
10/24/1999
Tulsa World


Not too long ago, my wife and I attended a TV football
party in south Tulsa. With a lopsided score, the
conversation turned to a livelier subject -- politics. The
crowd was, of course, top-heavy with Republicans. With each
point expressed their faces became more flushed, eyes
bulging a little more and veins popping in their foreheads
as they railed against the liberal programs.

Finally a lone, liberal voice asked: "Will you people
name me one bill your party ever passed to help the working
man of this country?" The question created much din and
clamor, and someone sputtered, "Well, what have the
Democrats done?"

The liberal responded with a few programs and was
interrupted by howling and disdain. He noted that he had
not promised they would like the programs and he asked to
complete his statement -- a difficult task to ask of
Republicans.

He spoke of Social Security; Medicare-Medicaid; Peace
Corps; unemployment insurance; welfare (for the poor and
corporate); civil rights; student grant and loan programs;
safety laws (OSHA); environmental laws; prevailing wage
laws; right to collective bargaining (which brought about
paid medical insurance, paid vacations, pensions, etc.);
workers' compensation; Marshall Plan; flood-disaster
insurance; School Lunch Program; women's rights.

He spoke of the Fair Labor Standards Act, which
established a minimum wage, instituted child labor laws,
and set up time-and-a-half pay for over a 40-hour week.

He mentioned FHA-HUD with its public housing, urban
renewal and 44 million residential homes (before WWII
almost 70 percent of our nation were renters; by the 1970s
this had been reversed). And farm-conservation
subsidies -- USDA programs, Farmers Home Administration (the
bankers didn't want to make rural loans), small
flood-control lakes (more than 3,000 in Oklahoma alone),
rural water districts, rural electricity (REA).

The GI Bill was passed, which the Republicans at the
time bitterly opposed. They were salivating over millions
of returning veterans to hire as cheap labor. More than 8 million have used college benefits, creating millions of
entrepreneurs; most of us had never dreamed of college. For
the unemployed GI, there was $20 a week for 52 weeks to
help get started (a lot of money in those days). The
Veterans Administration provided more than 2 million home
loans.

For the bankers at the football party, it was pointed
out that the liberals saved their industry with the
creation of FDIC and FSLIC, insuring their deposits, and
saved Wall Street with the establishment of the Securities
Exchange Commission.

The oil men came on bended knees to FDR at a time when
East Texas oil was 4 cents a barrel and begged him to save
their industry. He did; prorationing overturned the rule of
capture and the days of flush production were over.
Prorating has served this great industry (and nation)
well.


And the list went on and on, but of course this group
didn't let him get halfway through. He noted they were
weary, inattentive, so again he challenged them to offer up
any Republican legislation examples.

"I'm sure your party has authored one or two comparable
bills from time to time, but I can't think of any, and
apparently you can't either. What it boils down to is this:
the liberals dragged you into the 20th century scratching
and screaming with your heels in the mud, fighting anything
that's progressive, everything that's made this country
great. You Republicans have never understood that the
spending power of blue-collar workers, obtained through
Democrats and unions, is what really made this country
great. You really believe "The Good Life" was obtained from
your own endeavors. You cloak your greed in religion and
patriotism, railing against any form of tax, never
comprehending that these programs have benefitted all of us
and our country."

Well, I almost didn't make it out of the house. My wife
and I didn't even get to see the end of the football game.


If Reps. Steve Largent or J.C. Watts had been there,
perhaps politics would never have come up, only the game
plan ... pity.

Clint C. Gold is former mayor of Moore and a retired
savings and loan executive.

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Response to B Calm (Reply #53)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:45 PM

64. It seems times have not changed

What a good man Clint C Gold . Is he still alive?

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Response to B Calm (Reply #53)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:32 PM

67. Brillant!! This little story deserves a thread of it's own! Thanks for sharing!



YM

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Response to B Calm (Reply #53)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:10 PM

98. I believe it was the republican controlled congress that...

Put 'In God We Trust' on the money and 'under God' in the pledge of allegiance during their brief control of congress during the Eisenhower administration.

Surely that is as impressive by itself as the long list of programs that you point out as 'liberal' accomplishments.

They put God in our lives every day. Whether we want it there or not.

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Response to Blanks (Reply #98)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 08:00 PM

99. LOL, oh yes that is one impressive

accomplishment they did.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:30 PM

56. Liberals interfere with those who desire complete, unaccountable control of everything.

 

Great image.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:23 PM

58. I knew decent Republicans...long ago...

This is a good list. We have allowed the far right to turn "liberal" into an epithet. It's damn past time to reclaim it, the way O'Donnell says in the last line of his statement.

I remember when there were Republicans that would be horrified at what their party has turned into.

When I was a Boy Scout in the '70s, an Indiana Republican State Senator, Richard Shank (sadly passed), counselled me on my Citizenship In The Nation merit badge.

I got to know Senator Shank quite well. He certainly knew his stuff about the workings of government, and he really grilled me before he'd sign off on my merit badge.

He was one of the kindest, most decent men I have ever met. He would not have fit in at all with the current slash-and-burn Limbaugh/Norquist/Beck/Faux Noise GOP.

I asked him why there have to be Democrats and Republicans opposing each other (hey, I was 11 years old!). Senator Shank said, "well, sometimes we don't agree but in the end we have to work things out for the good of the people." I told him I came from a mostly Democratic family. He just smiled and said "when you get old enough, vote for whom you like, but just make sure you vote."

Can you imagine statements like that coming from John Boehner, Dick Armey or Mitch McConnell?

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:24 PM

59. Thank Them

I always do especially when they add bleeding heart. It comes from the sacred heart of Jesus painting. I say glad you recognize walking in the footsteps. They usually do not know what to say after that.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:25 PM

60. Worst of all, Liberals created a stable economy that worked for everybody

Rich men chafed under it, thinking they weren't getting richer nearly fast enough. They were aided by wealthier old folks who saw their fixed pensions eroded by inflation.

Now we have an economy that doesn't work well for any of us.

Thanks a lot, conservatives.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:59 PM

68. Repukes can't handle equality

n/t

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:02 PM

69. We didn't bend over..

... and take it in the ass for the rich. It is as simple as that.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:24 PM

70. and, there's this: they put a black man into the white house.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:26 PM

71. Short answer.

Actually include all people for the rights to life, liberty, and the
pursuit of happiness.

Reeps don't think many people deserve these rights.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 10:41 PM

72. Want to know what we did that was so offensive to the repukes?

we exist.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:01 PM

73. If it wasn't for liberals we would still be in the stone age or swinging from trees...

Unfortunately there was a bipartisan agreement between both parties to get rid of all the liberals, and now the country is run by conservative democrats, and conservative extremist republicans, and America as most of us know it is on track to be flushed down the shitter of failed empires.

And because both parties have fucked everything up beyond repair, who are they going to blame?

They blame it on liberals!

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:09 PM

74. Here's the problem.

If you look at the graph (in the link below) you'll see that with a few exceptions the democrats controlled both the house and the senate since the 1930's (even though it doesn't go back that far).

The republicans were very used to being the opposition party. They were opposed to a growing government. This is how it should be; we should have a party that is opposed to programs that expand the government. That way there is adequate debate in congress to insure that any new government program has enough debate to
Be certain that it was necessary.

The republicans have been in and out of controll of the house and senate since 1981. It is the responsibility of the party in power to pass legislation. The roles are reversed and the republicans need to lose control of the house so that they can be the opposition party again. Government doesn't work when the opposition party is in power.


http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgovernment/l/bl_party_division_2.htm

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:23 PM

75. We have stood

the way of a lot of their nutty military adventures plus we elected a black president.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:47 PM

78. Liberals fix stuff


Pubes break it

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 01:12 AM

82. And Liberals WIN...

...82% of fistfights* between Liberals and Conservatives.
(Although 69% of fights were started by Conservatives*).







*From The SBKTOLAB file

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 02:59 AM

84. I think I remember the turning point....

It was when Tom Delay said "Our goal isn't to beat the Democrats in elections...it's to destroy the party".

That was around 1998.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 03:38 AM

86. F-in' A!!!!

I am also passing this one along... truer words have never been spoken about us

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:16 AM

88. Need to add passage of the ADA -the Americans with Disabilities Act- to his list

And of course, though many Republicans supported it, and a Republican President signed it, most Republicans were against it.
(Civil Rights) would 'cost businesses too much'

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:36 AM

89. We succeeded in impeaching Nixon, that's what got the modern Repuke party's panties in a twist.

And while I agree with O'Donnell that liberals were responsible for the list he's outlined here, to say Republicans objected to extending voting rights, ending segregation, passing civil rights, etc., is disingenuous. There were plenty of Southern Democrats who opposed these measures. It would be more appropriate to say that these measures were opposed by conservatives because parties morph over time. Lincoln - a Republican - ended slavery, after all.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:06 AM

91. Worst of all, liberals elected ...

a BLACK man to the WHITE house.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 10:12 AM

92. Old School

I wear my label proudly

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Sun Aug 19, 2012, 11:30 AM

93. What did we (Democrats) do?

We exist.

The same answer as the question, "Why do Republicans hate Obama?"

Because HE exists.

They simply don't need another reason.

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Response to Curtland1015 (Original post)

Tue Aug 21, 2012, 01:38 AM

102. The New Deal


The New Deal was the culmination of the longest and most insidious campaign of Communist infiltration and subversion ever. They let in the Irish and the Italians, and, you know.. them... and they brought with them their foreign socialist ideologies and kept on voting for FDR to give them free stuff. Free stuff taken from US!

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