Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:26 PM

Doesn't Feel Like Ryan Is Already Falling Apart?

Ryan reminds me of Rick Perry. He swept in, made the republicans excited, had a fancy talking point (fastest job growth in the nation!), but after a few days, he started sounding like a complete dumb ass and then melted under the spotlights.

Look at the last few days

Ryan slams obama for not saving an auto plant closed in 2008

http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/paul-ryan-slams-obama-for-not-saving-auto-plant----in-2008.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

Ryan admits he did take stimulus money, after initially denying it

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/08/ryan-denies-taking-stimulus-then-admits-he-did.html?mid=reddit_dailyintel

Ryan Supported Obama Medicare "Cuts" that he now criticizes

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/08/14/ryans-budget-keeps-obamas-medicare-cuts-full-stop/

Ryan says he hasn't run the numbers on his budget yet

http://politics.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474981553419

Ryan Announcement Creates Virtually No Poll Bump for Romney

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/15/paul-ryan-pick_n_1784520.html?utm_hp_ref=paul-ryan

Ryan Used Social Security Benefits to Pay for College

http://www.alternet.org/hot-news-views/paul-ryan-social-security-teenager

Ryan Less Popular Pick than Palin

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/post/paul-ryan-pick-is-less-popular-than-palin-cheney-selections-poll-shows/2012/08/13/6577a26a-e557-11e1-8f62-58260e3940a0_blog.html

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91 replies	Author	Time	Post
Doesn't Feel Like Ryan Is Already Falling Apart? (Original post)	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	OP
Ryan is a good Republican - he lies a lot.	lumpy	Aug 2012	#1
Yes, and Mittt lies a lot too.	silvershadow	Aug 2012	#29
+1!	uponit7771	Aug 2012	#37
Note: Media using the word "LIE"	DearAbby	Aug 2012	#52
calling them like we see them.	daybranch	Aug 2012	#68
Good post.	RedStateLiberal	Aug 2012	#2
They are also loweing Biden's expectations	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#6
Biden will drink his milkshake. (nt)	RedStateLiberal	Aug 2012	#11
Gaffe Prone Biden Embarrasses the National Yet Again	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#13
Those actors did a great job imitating the speech and manner of those pundit panels	treestar	Aug 2012	#23
We knew that before he was picked, but his experience and	alfredo	Aug 2012	#69
quite so...	SemperEadem	Aug 2012	#70
The reps are the kids we hit just to hear them cry.	alfredo	Aug 2012	#77
He's a house of cards	flamingdem	Aug 2012	#3
Definitely. Maybe the MSM will get off the meme that "Ryan is intelligent"	livetohike	Aug 2012	#4
BA from Miami U in Ohio is not much of a background	flamingdem	Aug 2012	#7
I guess the good universities in WI wouldn't take him	livetohike	Aug 2012	#42
But he is intelligent!	Tommy_Carcetti	Aug 2012	#12
Yeah, it takes a real genius to say "cut all social programs and give the super wealthy tax cuts"	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#16
True.	Ineeda	Aug 2012	#39
LOL Tommy	livetohike	Aug 2012	#40
he's "wonkY!"	BREMPRO	Aug 2012	#60
I wouldn't mind seeing Political Celebrity Death Match to settle the matter	Kennah	Aug 2012	#84
The National stage is a monster.	Graybeard	Aug 2012	#5
Well said	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#9
But but but he's a ROCKSTAR and a WONK	K8-EEE	Aug 2012	#8
Don't Forget, He Also Works Out	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#10
And he slaughters animals with arrows. Big He Man.	Arugula Latte	Aug 2012	#14
I saw a news story where he likes to strangle fish with his bare hands	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#18
One with major power and control issues who likes to inflict pain on innocent beings.	Arugula Latte	Aug 2012	#19
strangle them?	2pooped2pop	Aug 2012	#33
Never trust a man with thin lips	tomm2thumbs	Aug 2012	#35
Or bad teeth.	Jamaal510	Aug 2012	#72
Fish don't even have necks.	AlbertCat	Aug 2012	#75
Maybe it is a precursor to tearing the heads off?	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#82
Answer: People from Texas who put firecrackers in frogs and, and....	Left Coast2020	Aug 2012	#59
One who isn't overly fond of his right hand or breathing, for that matter	jmowreader	Aug 2012	#62
If only fish had opposable thumbs (fins :) - n/t	coalition_unwilling	Aug 2012	#71
That explains why one of the two bills he authored lowered taxes on arrows	auburngrad82	Aug 2012	#76
Welcome to DU	lunatica	Aug 2012	#20
Why thank you	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#32
Just a few days ago Ryan referred to rMoney as the former Governor of Virginia.	lpbk2713	Aug 2012	#15
I am sure they will keep saying that until all of the republicans believe it	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#21
Virginia is south of the Mason-Dixon line	Danascot	Aug 2012	#57
Ryan will soon stop giving interviews to the 'gotcha' lamestream	lunatica	Aug 2012	#17
He Will Get Upset When He Isn't Asked:	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#24
He can always go to FOX	lunatica	Aug 2012	#25
The dolt aint ready for Prime Time	Yavin4	Aug 2012	#22
Ryan or Romney?	WestSeattle2	Aug 2012	#28
Stupid and stupider, start with either one. n/t	A Simple Game	Aug 2012	#36
Tweedledumb & Tweedledumber	alterfurz	Aug 2012	#90
No kidding	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#41
LOL. I often said that the Little Chimp (GWB)	hifiguy	Aug 2012	#50
He could be a special guest star	Callmecrazy	Aug 2012	#26
I was thinkin' more along the lines of "Stars Earn Stripes"	jmowreader	Aug 2012	#63
Doesn't matter - he's got great physique.	kestrel91316	Aug 2012	#27
He's a Green Horn	bucolic_frolic	Aug 2012	#30
It's because he knows his stuff - does his research!	tomm2thumbs	Aug 2012	#31
He is a rigid idealog	libodem	Aug 2012	#34
Nice compilation! I see you spent much time lurking . .	annabanana	Aug 2012	#38
Make Ads	erpowers	Aug 2012	#43
But, Obama's polling badly right now, according to TPM	SleeplessinSoCal	Aug 2012	#44
Ryan's "secret" weapon	nikto	Aug 2012	#45
Ok ..so Ryan is falling apart and Romney may be falling fast because of	INdemo	Aug 2012	#46
You betcha!	Swede	Aug 2012	#47
He's a cardboard cutout. Even the MSM should know by now that the emperor has no brains. n/t	gkhouston	Aug 2012	#48
Something is happening here and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Ryan? n/t	deutsey	Aug 2012	#49
Yup, Bishop Romney should have gone with Princess Palin -	WestSeattle2	Aug 2012	#51
Paul Ryan is a Younger Version of Romney, maybe a little less stiff but still without Charisma	JI7	Aug 2012	#53
and his family built their business on government contracts	BelieveMe3	Aug 2012	#54
That new car smell is gone	Blue Owl	Aug 2012	#55
Looks like he's bombing out a lot faster than Perry... And that's saying something.	freshwest	Aug 2012	#56
his brother Tobin Ryan	riverwalker	Aug 2012	#58
The best part is the splash damage.	D23MIURG23	Aug 2012	#61
Talk about "not ready for primetime"!	mwb970	Aug 2012	#64
K&R. . .	Journeyman	Aug 2012	#65
The public is desperate for solutions.	Did I Just Type This	Aug 2012	#66
Does it really matter?	sa2968	Aug 2012	#67
R#122 & K for, EXcellent!1 n/t	UTUSN	Aug 2012	#73
Raul Pyan may be an inept VP choice, but remember--	Jamaal510	Aug 2012	#74
New Day, New Stories About the Looming Ryan Downfall	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#78
Nope. Flipping through the Cable "news" channels the last two days it looks like he is being pushed	AlinPA	Aug 2012	#79
Yup. We can't kid ourselves.	SunSeeker	Aug 2012	#80
So Fox News and CNN?	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#81
That's good. I hope the viewership is low for CNN all day. As for Fox, IMO, their viewers	AlinPA	Aug 2012	#83
Rude Pundit,	JEB	Aug 2012	#85
No	Herlong	Aug 2012	#86
He's falling apart all the way to helping	stop this fascism	Aug 2012	#87
I see he is already trotting his mother out	Skittles	Aug 2012	#88
He probably whined at her so much she couldn't take it any more.	lpbk2713	Aug 2012	#89
Drip..Drip..Drip	Doctor Jack	Aug 2012	#91

Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:32 PM

lumpy (12,138 posts)

1. Ryan is a good Republican - he lies a lot.

And as stupid as his running mate.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:33 PM

silvershadow (1,528 posts)

29. Yes, and Mittt lies a lot too.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:51 PM

uponit7771 (16,135 posts)

37. +1!

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Response to lumpy (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:29 PM

DearAbby (12,180 posts)

52. Note: Media using the word "LIE"

When months ago this would be unheard of...used to be untruths, misrepresenting....

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Response to lumpy (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:05 AM

daybranch (390 posts)

68. calling them like we see them.

It is very refreshing to read such a straight forward analysis. I am truly ill of those who claim republican politicians just do not understand the people and that is why they all act like idiots. It is only with open , honest communication like yours that progressives advance justice and fairness. Every time I hear one of our so called brethren unwilling to call them on their real motivation , saying or doing whatever is necessary to support the power of some of the wealthiest, I cringe. If we do not cal out our enemies, they become more and more emboldened to hide between political spin and false claims of divine right over us.
We are part of the 99 percent and must never forget this or we risk this election. We must take every opportunity to remind everyone republican politicians are not on the side of the people and whose side the republican politicians are really on. Peope seem to be angry about the policies being pursued by lying republican politicians, we need to tie things together by tying these policies to direct and unashamed support for an ultra wealthy ruling group.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:33 PM

RedStateLiberal (1,374 posts)

2. Good post.

Thanks for compiling those links. I bookmarked it so you should keep adding to the list.

I can't wait until the debate with Biden. Ryan still hasn't faced a spotlight that bright on the national stage. Even people who don't pay attention to politics get a general feel for a candidate from the debates.

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:39 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

6. They are also loweing Biden's expectations

The republicans have spent weeks talking about how biden is a complete dumb ass and Ryan is most brilliant man in the country. Biden is quick and sharp and has been playing this game for nearly 40 years. Ryan has never been in a national debate before. Big mistake on the republican's part.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:47 PM

RedStateLiberal (1,374 posts)

11. Biden will drink his milkshake. (nt)

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:50 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

13. Gaffe Prone Biden Embarrasses the National Yet Again

http://www.theonion.com/video/gaffeprone-biden-embarrasses-nation-yet-again-by-s,14377/

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:03 PM

treestar (40,435 posts)

23. Those actors did a great job imitating the speech and manner of those pundit panels

All while delivering hilarious lines!

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 09:50 AM

alfredo (46,530 posts)

69. We knew that before he was picked, but his experience and

vast Network of friends worldwide outweighs his gaffs. The chains gaff was manufactured outrage by those looking for anything to use against him and Obama.

When he actually makes a gaff, the public just laughs and shrugs. They know what to expect and like him gaffs and all.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:12 AM

SemperEadem (7,996 posts)

70. quite so...

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the thugs were expecting all black people to clutch their pearls and turn their backs on Obama... but what they failed to realize is that those folks in that room knew exactly what Biden was talking about---and so did most black people who saw the video clip afterwards--and they did not equate anything nearly as hysterically wrong with it as those who tried to whip this up into something it never was. That goes to show how stupid everyone who thought this would offend black people thinks black people are.

What Biden said was no where near being a gaffe and all the whining, crying and moaning in the world will never make it so.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:30 PM

alfredo (46,530 posts)

77. The reps are the kids we hit just to hear them cry.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:33 PM

flamingdem (22,658 posts)

3. He's a house of cards

Pretty soon he'll wave the white flag and ask Obama and Co. to stop being mean!

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:34 PM

livetohike (14,723 posts)

4. Definitely. Maybe the MSM will get off the meme that "Ryan is intelligent"

So far he looks like the idiot I always thought he was. All bluster, no brains.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:42 PM

flamingdem (22,658 posts)

7. BA from Miami U in Ohio is not much of a background

Most would have held higher office or be lawyers or PhDs to be called intellectual archquetect of the Repuke party

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:58 PM

livetohike (14,723 posts)

42. I guess the good universities in WI wouldn't take him

. For all his supposed business/economics knowledge, you would think he would at least have an MBA or MS in Economics.

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Response to livetohike (Reply #4)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:49 PM

Tommy_Carcetti (16,437 posts)

12. But he is intelligent!

Of all the Republican Vice Presidental nominees since 2008, I guarantee you Paul Ryan is the most intelligent!

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:53 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

16. Yeah, it takes a real genius to say "cut all social programs and give the super wealthy tax cuts"

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:56 PM

Ineeda (2,932 posts)

39. True.

And funny as hell. You Betcha.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:56 PM

livetohike (14,723 posts)

40. LOL Tommy

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:09 AM

BREMPRO (2,142 posts)

60. he's "wonkY!"

ie. immature hypocritical teenager-like know it all with cherry picked facts and incomplete reasoning based on superficial reading of other smart or seemingly intelligent ideologues.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:14 PM

Kennah (6,738 posts)

84. I wouldn't mind seeing Political Celebrity Death Match to settle the matter

In this corner, at 116 pounds, 158 pounds including silicon, the former, half Governor, from the state of Alaska, and failed Vice Presidential Candidate, SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARAH PALIN!

<Crowd goes nuts>

And in this corner, at 179 lbs, including suit and and batshit crazy stuffing, the know nothing, do nothing, Congressman from Wisconsin's first district, and only Vice Presidential option who was bat shit crazier than all the other bat shit crazy GOP Presidential candidates, PAUL, RYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYAN!

<Crowd goes nuts>

LET'S, GET READY, TO RUMBLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLE!!!

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:38 PM

Graybeard (6,635 posts)

5. The National stage is a monster.

Much more accomplished politicians than Ryan have not survived the scrutiny. We now see him beginning to wither in the glare of that spotlight and the questions that must bee answered.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:44 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

9. Well said

I think the republicans are going to have a period of deep reflection after this election, about their decision to brush off the vetting process and "go bold" two cycles in a row.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:43 PM

K8-EEE (15,667 posts)

8. But but but he's a ROCKSTAR and a WONK

They said it on FoxNews so it must be true...

Although a wonk who pushes a crazy budget and voucher-care would at least RUN THE NUMBERS which he casually said he HASN'T DONE.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:46 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

10. Don't Forget, He Also Works Out

I would leave my wife for him in a heartbeat

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:52 PM

Arugula Latte (40,069 posts)

14. And he slaughters animals with arrows. Big He Man.

*gag*

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:55 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

18. I saw a news story where he likes to strangle fish with his bare hands

Not even joking. What kind of fucked up person does that?

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:56 PM

Arugula Latte (40,069 posts)

19. One with major power and control issues who likes to inflict pain on innocent beings.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:46 PM

2pooped2pop (2,611 posts)

33. strangle them?

I mean of all things, why strangle. Fish don't even have necks. What happened on the day he strangled his first boyhood fish?
lol
strangled? What a dip he is.

wait, I think I have it; he strangles fish BECAUSE they have no necks. It has something to do with him having no lips. I can't quite piece it together.

maybe its;
The fish have no necks yet can be strangled. He has no lips, yet can suck.

Got it. I think that's it.

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Response to 2pooped2pop (Reply #33)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:49 PM

tomm2thumbs (9,178 posts)

35. Never trust a man with thin lips

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:16 PM

Jamaal510 (3,140 posts)

72. Or bad teeth.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:36 PM

AlbertCat (10,450 posts)

75. Fish don't even have necks.

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Well, considering fish don't breathe air and have gills instead, it's gonna "strangle" anyway..... unless Ryan is strangling them UNDER WATER!

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:04 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

82. Maybe it is a precursor to tearing the heads off?

Lets not try to sort out the logic of "fish stranglin'"

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:51 AM

Left Coast2020 (1,483 posts)

59. Answer: People from Texas who put firecrackers in frogs and, and....

The one from Crawford.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:31 AM

jmowreader (23,914 posts)

62. One who isn't overly fond of his right hand or breathing, for that matter

What Ryan actually does is called catfish noodling. Whatcha do to noodle a catfish is to go out in a murky river, find a cave you think a good-sized catfish might be nesting in, and stick your hand into the cave.

If all goes well, the catfish bites your hand. You grab the fish by the jawbone and drag it out of its cave. Your buddies then help you get it onto the bank.

There are a few problems with doing this.

Problem 1: this tends to piss off the fish.
Problem 2: channel catfish can grow to approximately the size of Paul Ryan, and they're stronger.
Problem 3: the bottom of the river is fairly slick, which leads to...
Problem 4: large, pissed off channel catfish can drag you below the surface and make you drownded. Or they can stick one of their venomous spines in your leg and do you in that way.
And then there's...
Problem 5: Rivers with catfish large enough to noodle ALSO contain snapping turtles, who tend to live in the same kinds of places large cats do.

And then there's the issue of why a man who doesn't eat the flesh of animals is out there draggin' catfish out of the water with his bare hands...

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 11:24 AM

coalition_unwilling (14,180 posts)

71. If only fish had opposable thumbs (fins :) - n/t

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:53 PM

auburngrad82 (4,993 posts)

76. That explains why one of the two bills he authored lowered taxes on arrows

A straight tax so that a wealthy person could buy more expensive arrows and pay the same amount as a poor hunter buying cheaper arrows.

We all know how the GOP feels about having to pay taxes.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:57 PM

lunatica (28,839 posts)

20. Welcome to DU

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:44 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

32. Why thank you

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:53 PM

lpbk2713 (23,247 posts)

15. Just a few days ago Ryan referred to rMoney as the former Governor of Virginia.

Link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021118165

And that was on the same day Mittens referred to Ryan as the next President of the USA.

These two are better than Laurel & Hardy.

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Response to lpbk2713 (Reply #15)

Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:58 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

21. I am sure they will keep saying that until all of the republicans believe it

That could be an convenient excuse for why he didn't get a second term. He didn't run away from reelection in embarrassment, he was term limited...because he is from Virginia.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:36 PM

Danascot (1,920 posts)

57. Virginia is south of the Mason-Dixon line

Massachusetts is an exceptionally liberal state in the liberal northeast. Far more palatable to have been gov of Virginia.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:54 PM

lunatica (28,839 posts)

17. Ryan will soon stop giving interviews to the 'gotcha' lamestream

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:05 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

24. He Will Get Upset When He Isn't Asked:

"Paul Ryan, why are you so smart?"

"Can we see your abs?"

"What do you do for fun, besides look fabulous of course!"

"You have a powerful widow's peak. How jealous does that make Joe Biden?"

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:15 PM

lunatica (28,839 posts)

25. He can always go to FOX

They'll ask him those questions.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:02 PM

Yavin4 (18,495 posts)

22. The dolt aint ready for Prime Time

No foreign policy experience. No real intelligence. Bases his philosophy on a sociopath.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:31 PM

WestSeattle2 (1,259 posts)

28. Ryan or Romney?

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:50 PM

A Simple Game (4,833 posts)

36. Stupid and stupider, start with either one. n/t

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:54 PM

alterfurz (1,053 posts)

90. Tweedledumb & Tweedledumber

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:56 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

41. No kidding

Romney would fit in better at a federal prison and Ryan, he seems more like an assistant manager at a Red Lobster than a Vice President.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:27 PM

hifiguy (13,029 posts)

50. LOL. I often said that the Little Chimp (GWB)

would have wound up as the night manager of a Denny's in Plano if his last name weren't Bush.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:25 PM

Callmecrazy (595 posts)

26. He could be a special guest star

on "Hillbilly Handfishin". He's got that voting block locked up.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:33 AM

jmowreader (23,914 posts)

63. I was thinkin' more along the lines of "Stars Earn Stripes"

As a target, of course.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:27 PM

kestrel91316 (45,367 posts)

27. Doesn't matter - he's got great physique.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:36 PM

bucolic_frolic (708 posts)

30. He's a Green Horn

I think he was picked for his first name, to hype libertarians reminded
of Ron Paul.

I continue to think that Mitch Daniels, no mean budget cruncher in his
own right, would have been far and above the better candidate for
Prince Mitt to select due to his experience.

But he would have dwarfed Mitt in the gravitas department.

Corporate CEO's will by definition surround themselves with "YES" men.

Liberals may get quite some benefits in this election with a Republican
moderate and a radical on the ticket. Leaves the GOP with almost
no clear options for 2016.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:39 PM

tomm2thumbs (9,178 posts)

31. It's because he knows his stuff - does his research!

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:47 PM

libodem (11,813 posts)

34. He is a rigid idealog

A rigid idealist without real life application, only theory, trickle down has never worked.

He wants a Plutocracy, is what it comes down to, a rich ruling class and a bunch of peons

to provide all the services and fodder for war. That's unfettered Capitalism. Wipe out the middle class and keep us in prison and servitude. Keep us all indebted to education costs if we dare climb out or up.

He definitely wants to change the face of America. To a one Party system rigged to elect the rich to represent the rich and make different rules for the rich. The rest of us are second class. That's why we need to unite against what the Republic Party stands for! They want to decimate us.

End rant:

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:52 PM

annabanana (45,559 posts)

38. Nice compilation! I see you spent much time lurking . .

Welcome to DU's visible universe!

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:17 PM

erpowers (5,117 posts)

43. Make Ads

The Obama campaign should make ads out of at least the first four stories.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:51 PM

SleeplessinSoCal (1,633 posts)

44. But, Obama's polling badly right now, according to TPM

http://core.talkingpointsmemo.com/election/scoreboard

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:01 PM

nikto (667 posts)

45. Ryan's "secret" weapon

The Mainstream Korporate Media will be Ryan's helium.

Otherwise, he'd sink like a stone.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:14 PM

INdemo (3,160 posts)

46. Ok ..so Ryan is falling apart and Romney may be falling fast because of

lying about his tax returns..So could the Repukes be headed toward an open convention? And when will the billionaire PACs stop their ads backing these guys?

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:19 PM

Swede (27,081 posts)

47. You betcha!

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:21 PM

gkhouston (21,642 posts)

48. He's a cardboard cutout. Even the MSM should know by now that the emperor has no brains. n/t

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:24 PM

deutsey (16,789 posts)

49. Something is happening here and you don't know what it is, do you, Mr. Ryan? n/t

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:27 PM

WestSeattle2 (1,259 posts)

51. Yup, Bishop Romney should have gone with Princess Palin -

the smarter choice, and if I can be so bold, the one with less hair on her chest.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:44 PM

JI7 (40,064 posts)

53. Paul Ryan is a Younger Version of Romney, maybe a little less stiff but still without Charisma

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:35 PM

BelieveMe3 (134 posts)

54. and his family built their business on government contracts

And he lied about being a weinermobile driver!

And he admitted he didn't know when his budget would balance

And he paid ridiculously low tax rate

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 10:46 PM

Blue Owl (8,451 posts)

55. That new car smell is gone

and they haven't even left the car elevator yet...

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:09 PM

freshwest (31,330 posts)

56. Looks like he's bombing out a lot faster than Perry... And that's saying something.

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Fri Aug 17, 2012, 11:40 PM

riverwalker (6,434 posts)

58. his brother Tobin Ryan

seems to be some kind of story about his time at Bain and Romney breaching ethics laws.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/us-election/9483845/US-election-Mitt-Romney-may-have-breached-ethics-laws-through-company-linked-to-Paul-Ryans-brother.html

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:22 AM

D23MIURG23 (2,168 posts)

61. The best part is the splash damage.

Every time a house Dem runs an ad linking their opponent to Ryan, Obama gets a free attack ad. Every time Obama runs an ad attacking Ryan, afformentioned house Dem gets a free attack ad.

United front.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 04:48 AM

mwb970 (10,114 posts)

64. Talk about "not ready for primetime"!

Of course, when Obama was inaugurated, Ryan was in his 30s. Politically, he is a child.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 05:38 AM

Journeyman (9,197 posts)

65. K&R. . .

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 06:51 AM

Did I Just Type This (77 posts)

66. The public is desperate for solutions.

The use of "Lie" is the inflection of how frustrated the public is with half truths and a lack of a plan. My wife is foreign born and listens to these politicians on the television and is constantly confused by what she sees and hears. After many nights over the years of explaining that the lies, insincerity and mean spirited campaigns are a major part of the American electoral process, she still doesn't understand why the people bother voting. I simply said that it isn't about which candidate has the best message or the most money to spend, it comes down to "Which candidate lies the best and in the end is more believable".

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 07:19 AM

sa2968 (35 posts)

67. Does it really matter?

The idiotic brain-dead Republican base will vote for anyone as long as they blame everything on Obama and the so-called independent voters will go whichever way the wind blows. The Cock brothers are buying this election at the expense of everyone else and the electorate is too lazy to actually educate themselves.

In the age of Facebook, text messaging and Twitter, anything that is said is instantly repeated ad infinitum and within 24 hours becomes the "truth." The media has failed in their role because the vast majority of people in this country have the attention span of a 7 year old and "journalists" are too interested in being personalities and too afraid to actually ask any substantive questions, least they loose their fat paychecks. The complete dumbing-down of America has arrived. Get used to it.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:28 PM

UTUSN (34,860 posts)

73. R#122 & K for, EXcellent!1 n/t

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 12:33 PM

Jamaal510 (3,140 posts)

74. Raul Pyan may be an inept VP choice, but remember--

the G0Pee has the fix in for this election. They have been hard at work instituting unnecessary voter ID laws nationwide, and the voting machines are notorious for being easily hacked. They don't need to worry about upcoming debates or appealing to Independents and moderates. They have their dream veep in Raul Pyan, and are in it to win back the WH that they feel so entitled to.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:37 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

78. New Day, New Stories About the Looming Ryan Downfall

Last edited Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:48 PM USA/ET - Edit history (3)

Ryan Drags His Elderly Mother On Stage to Prove His Medicare Plans Are a Good Idea <----The most "what the fuck?" story i have seen in a long time

http://news.yahoo.com/medicare-focus-ryan-mom-appear-florida-133817989.html

Ryan Told by Romney to Avoid Talking about the Issues

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/18/mitt-romney-wants-his-ris_n_1800824.html

Clear Headed Republicans Scared to Death About Romney/Ryan's Focus on Medicare

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-paul-ryan-in-florida-warns-of-medicare-rationing-20120818,0,6203516.story

Saw all three of the stories on MSM outlets today, so no burying these.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:55 PM

AlinPA (13,708 posts)

79. Nope. Flipping through the Cable "news" channels the last two days it looks like he is being pushed

by the broadcast media and getting very positive coverage.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 01:59 PM

SunSeeker (5,003 posts)

80. Yup. We can't kid ourselves.

They have the money to push their lies, and they are not getting called on the lies by the media, except for isolated instances like that Soledad O'Brien interview with Sununu. We have a lot of work to do between now and November.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:01 PM

Doctor Jack (788 posts)

81. So Fox News and CNN?

I know MSNBC isn't positive on Ryan, so that would leave Fox News, which would love Ryan even if there was video of him hacking apart school children with a machete, and CNN, which is down to about 6 viewers. Of course half of those are from people that leave the TV on all day so their cats feel like someone is home with them.

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Sat Aug 18, 2012, 02:08 PM

AlinPA (13,708 posts)