Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:01 PM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
If you can't tell me the fucking DETAILS of how you'd run the country...
Then you aren't fucking QUALIFIED to be a president!!!
Romney Adviser: It's 'Politically Unwise' To Campaign In Specifics
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/17/romney-adviser-campaign-specifics_n_1797570.html So far, putting Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on presumptive GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney's ticket hasn't led to any detailed plans for his top issue, the budget. That won't change, according to a Romney aide who spoke to Politico. "The nature of running a presidential campaign is that you're communicating direction to the American people," a Romney adviser, who is not named, told Politico. "Campaigns that are about specifics, particularly in today's environment, get tripped up." The issue of the budget, particularly taxes and cuts to entitlement programs, is a pivotal one for the election and is one both campaigns are trying to exploit. For the Romney campaign, that has meant accusing President Barack Obama of decimating Medicare by taking funds from it for his health care law, even though that is a false claim. Ryan's own budget would transform the program to make it almost unrecognizable. Another Romney official, also unnamed, told Politico the campaign isn't scared to talk about Medicare. "We'll do it for as long as they want," the official said. "Let's do it." That doesn't mean talking in specifics, however. Romney was vague about his budget plans during the Republican primary -- he said he would cut funding to Planned Parenthood but not much else -- and will continue to be, according to the adviser. Seriously! We can't ask about this asshole's past tax returns. We can't ask about this douchebag's one term in the only election he has ever won (governor of Massachusetts), We can't ask about this nitwit's time running the 2002 Olympics AND We can't ask about what this dirtbag's time running Bain. Now We can't ask about the specifics in regards to things that could have a major impact on most of the United States including jobs, medicare, social security and healthcare because *gasp* god forbid we hear the details we'll go screaming into the night as we run to the polls and vote for someone else. GUESS WHAT - this is NOT a fucking popularity contest. You want to win a popularity contest run for Prom King or Mr. USA or some bullshit position like that. I'm in my 40s and the choices made by whomever wins could have a major impact on not just my life my millions of people like me. I have the right to know the details so I know I'm voting for the person that has the best interest of me and the other 99% of the USA (those who don't have trust funds to live off of).
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| LynneSin | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| hedgehog | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| Raster | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| GObamaGO | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| Z_I_Peevey | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| cleduc | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| LynneSin | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| CJCRANE | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| kentuck | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| NoQuarter | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| Scuba | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| LynneSin | Aug 2012 | #33 | |
| xxqqqzme | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| librechik | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| riverbendviewgal | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| klook | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| LynneSin | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| klook | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| Stuart G | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| PatSeg | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| Javaman | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| shawn703 | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| genxlib | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| renate | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| BarackTheVote | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| tclambert | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| Blue Meany | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| Cosmocat | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| yoyossarian | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| Wednesdays | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| ProSense | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| Telly Savalas | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| gulliver | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| LynneSin | Aug 2012 | #34 | |
| Snarkoleptic | Aug 2012 | #32 | |
| freshwest | Aug 2012 | #35 |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:03 PM
hedgehog (30,411 posts)
1. Give them a break - they haven't received their orders yet!
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Response to hedgehog (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:10 PM
Raster (12,615 posts)
7. Trust them, says darth cheney*...
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...and meanwhile MANY of the same villains, miscreants and psychopaths that inhabited the court of cheney*/bush* wait in the shadows for their cue to slither back into national prominence.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:05 PM
GObamaGO (635 posts)
2. If you cannot release the details of your income tax returns
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AND you cannot tell us the details of your plans to run this country, you are eminently unqualified.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:06 PM
Z_I_Peevey (2,718 posts)
3. Preach it, sister! n/t
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:06 PM
cleduc (473 posts)
4. "YOU PEOPLE need to stop being so small minded!"
Response to cleduc (Reply #4)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:07 PM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
5. Ok who let Ann Romney have an account here at DU???.....
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(and btw just kidding) |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:09 PM
CJCRANE (13,351 posts)
6. "I've had a look back
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over my policies and most of them are pretty good. I can't give you the details, you'll just have to take my word for it".
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 02:10 PM
kentuck (66,201 posts)
8. Really !!
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What are people thinking!?
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Response to kentuck (Reply #8)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:09 PM
NoQuarter (553 posts)
9. What passes for thinking in their heads...
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"Get that nigger outta the White House."
Pretty much the extent of it. |
Response to NoQuarter (Reply #9)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:45 PM
Scuba (26,748 posts)
21. Suggest you edit your post. The use of the "n-word" is offensive and not appropriate for DU...
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... had it been a direct quote from an individual it still might not have been acceptable.
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Response to Scuba (Reply #21)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:38 PM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
33. It is offensive but I hate to say it
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I've met enough people who have said just that and it is disgusting. I grew up in a part of this country where this was pretty much the norm.
That's the reality of many of these right-wing voters. They feel the USA has always been the land of Whites-privileges since we first landed here hundreds of years ago, forced Africans from their homeland to do our dirty work and gathered up all the native Americans and forced them to live on reservations. Many of these people are generation after generation of hateful people that feel like each generation they are giving away a bit of that 'Whites-privileges' and would love nothing more than to turn our country back that way. This is the type of voter that we are dealing with and they are hateful hateful hateful people. As for me - I believe what was said on the Statue of Liberty. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Having said that perhaps the original poster could just change it to n-word. |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:18 PM
xxqqqzme (13,433 posts)
10. After 8 years of Lying
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Bastard B**h Administration, we are supposed to TRUST these lying bastards. Even since leaving office, the LBBA has engaged in rewriting history because even they know what lying bastards they were. NOW they're concerned about their legacy.
I really hope people are not as shortsighted as I fear. |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:20 PM
librechik (25,004 posts)
11. For THEM it's unwise, because the specifics are either nonexistent or damning.
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Don't they realize we are right behind them watching them ? They really are NOT invisible, like they think, the loons.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:35 PM
riverbendviewgal (2,461 posts)
12. If you are trying to get hired for a contract for work.
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You produce the blueprints/plans in detail of what you propose to do.. You also produce factual details/papers of what you have done. You have a resume and you do an interview and answer all the questions asked. If you can not do that then you should not be applying for the work/job.
Show us the INCOME Taxes Romney. |
Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #12)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:40 PM
klook (4,461 posts)
13. Great analogy
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These morons want us to buy a pig in a poke.
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Response to riverbendviewgal (Reply #12)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:51 PM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
16. Could see typical GOP low-IQ voters looking for contractors
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Last edited Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:51 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) Can you build a house?
Yes Any examples of houses you've built Can't show you that Can you show me your past history of house building Can't release that information Can you show me blueprints of what you can build Can't give you the details Ok I'll hire you Edit Note: Then when they get their crappily built house built and it falls down - they blame democrats for the problem Go figure. |
Response to LynneSin (Reply #16)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:54 PM
klook (4,461 posts)
17. That sure would make a good ad (n/t)
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:44 PM
Stuart G (7,676 posts)
14. k & r thanks for posting...nt
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:50 PM
PatSeg (15,723 posts)
15. And if it WAS a popularity contest
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he couldn't win that either. He really has no redeeming qualities that I can see.
Meanwhile, I have yet to hear him say anything specific about his policies - "Well, we'll have to work that out with Congress, blah, blah, blah........" Oh well, "The trees are the right height" and he "loves cars". I'm sure that's enough. |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 03:56 PM
Javaman (40,626 posts)
18. The Ghost Candidate.
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You think there's something there, but there really isn't.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:03 PM
shawn703 (1,679 posts)
19. He's a rich white guy
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So in his mind that makes him more qualified than Obama. So it should make him more qualified in everyone else's mind too.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:23 PM
genxlib (111 posts)
20. We don't need no stinkin information
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This represents the nadir for campaigns built on misinformation.
Real information is not needed (or desired) when you can fill the void with 24 hour networks, radio and Super-PAC funded propaganda. Unfortunately, this tactic has been far too successful (2010?) But this is why the Ryan pick is such a gift. He was naive enough to believe that he should actually write his ideas down and make his people vote for them. The RYAN budget is all we need to show voters what they really are. It is merely a bonus that they are so arrogant that they can't seem to keep the normally supplicant press happy. They seem to be kicking them in the teeth and daring them to do their job. |
Response to genxlib (Reply #20)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 07:54 PM
renate (7,926 posts)
28. well said, especially the last two sentences
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I really wonder just how long it'll be before journalists from CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC--everybody other than Fox reporters--get fed up with their outright bullshit. It's one thing for politicians to spin, another for them to stand there and lie with straight faces.
Welcome to DU! |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:46 PM
BarackTheVote (560 posts)
22. So...
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He thinks he can just stand there, looking smug while not being Obama, and win. It's very frightening that polls are as close as they are
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 04:50 PM
tclambert (5,532 posts)
23. "You want the secret details of my secret plans? Well, you can't have them. They're SECRET!"
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"And when you vote, you vote in secret. So, put it together. You get it, huh? Secret plans, secret vote, secret SuperPAC donors--don't forget them--secret you, secret me, and the next thing you know, we all profit! Or at least me and my friends who own things do. How? Shhh. It's a you know what."
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:02 PM
Blue Meany (1,464 posts)
24. In marketing(book marketing, at least) there is an ideal amount of information that you
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give about a book to maximize sales. You have to tell enough about it to sell the book, but not so much that some potential buyers will realize this is the book they want. My sense is that with. Although Romney has revealed almost nothing about himself or his policies, my sense is that that the campaign has already passed this ideal point and they know it. Anything more that is revealed is going to cost him votes. That's why they keep Romney away from the press, limit interviews to very friendly interviewers, and will probably limit debates. That only leaves them with the option of attacking Obama, which is what the plan to do.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:04 PM
Cosmocat (5,395 posts)
25. It if flat out past the point of being pathetic
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as noted, he wants to run on his business experience, but talking about Bain is a PERSONAL ATTACK!
He wants to slam "Obamacare" but you can't talk about "Romneycare." He has spent over a year now talking in a deriding manner about the President, but then turn around and ball about negative campaigning - after he scorch earthed a half dozen challengers to shreds in the primary. The reality is that 1) They really don't have much to run on against this president outside of a slow recovery 2) They know what they WANT to do is so extreme they can't possibly win by saying what it is. This has to be the most pathetic presidential campaign in my life, at the very least the worst since Clinton ran for reelection. But, with their money and the "liberal" media, SOMEHOW they are within range of BO. Stunning, just stunning. |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 05:10 PM
yoyossarian (1,007 posts)
26. Awesome, Lynne! You speak my mind EXACTLY!
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Of course, some questions are better left unasked...
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 06:46 PM
Wednesdays (9,251 posts)
27. Deja vu... It's Campaign 2000 all over again
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If you recall, all questions about Smirky's past were absolutely verboten. And you couldn't get specifics from him about anything... That didn’t matter, what was important was how mean Al Gore was, how Al Gore claimed to have invented the Intertubes, and how Shrub was the guy everybody could have a beer with.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:02 PM
ProSense (98,200 posts)
29. Mitt Romney, charlatan and coward. n/t
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:13 PM
Telly Savalas (9,841 posts)
30. It is a popularity contest
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If it's not a popularity contest, then why do candidates spend so much money on substanceless 30 second ad spots?
Until voters decide to punish at the ballot box candidates who lack substance, assholes like Romney and Ryan are going to behave the way they do. |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:20 PM
gulliver (8,525 posts)
31. Some of the more gullible Republicans are in a morally broken mood, I think.
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They are willing to play political Russian roulette on the hope that they aren't the ones who will lose. It's a kind of sickness, but I'll bet there are a lot of Romney/Ryan voters who think that way.
That is the kind of mood that Republican elites encourage in their working and middle class rubes. "The other guy is bad 'just because,' and I'm better 'just because', and nothing anyone says, true or false, good or evil, changes that." It's just a mood. It's a figment. But it's easy to get relatively simple minded people who are disappointed with life for some reason to fall prey to it. |
Response to gulliver (Reply #31)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:41 PM
LynneSin (89,793 posts)
34. I think there is this odd belief that if you vote for the richest guy to be president...
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that some how their magical touch to getting rich will rub off on them.
This is also why lotteries are so popular. We see the dream on TV, we want that dream but getting it isn't by voting for them. |
Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 08:26 PM
Snarkoleptic (2,561 posts)
32. He doesn't need to know specifics in order to outsource government to the RNC.
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All RNC needs is someone with enough fingers to hold a pen.
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Response to LynneSin (Original post)
Fri Aug 17, 2012, 09:35 PM
freshwest (31,438 posts)



