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Holy shit... The shooting in South Africa..... (Original Post) TheMightyFavog Aug 2012 OP
details?? n/t progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #1
Al Jazeera Africa nc4bo Aug 2012 #2
What a horrible situation Marrah_G Aug 2012 #5
Mine owner own the security and the police there., nt nanabugg Aug 2012 #18
our ally is killing its own people. when's the invasion? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #3
Without platinum, we can't make catalytic convertors, and our air gets dirty... FarCenter Aug 2012 #4
And you think they could afford to pay living wages for the miners nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #8
It's complicated FarCenter Aug 2012 #12
what's your point? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #14
Now you are getting somehwere nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #15
what's your point? HiPointDem Aug 2012 #13
It's another example of bad shit happening elsewhere so that we can live in relative luxury FarCenter Aug 2012 #17
That is where we will move back to at the pace we are moving nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #6
Are those Pinkertons? nt PufPuf23 Aug 2012 #7
Some are army, some are pinkertons, some are police nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #10
Technology and tactics to counter insurrections are much improved since then FarCenter Aug 2012 #9
So people like you will never be inconvenienced, and nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #11
Shocking malaise Aug 2012 #16

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
5. What a horrible situation
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:50 PM
Aug 2012

Before this 2 security guards were burned to death in their car and 2 policemen were killed with machetes, then the police killed 3 miners and then today this.......

The South African government better step in an do some serious peacemaking and negotiating some fair wages and labor practices before more people die.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
8. And you think they could afford to pay living wages for the miners
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

Or are they worthy sacrifices for your ability to have a catalytic converter?

Their grievances go well beyond inconveniencing the consumer. I don't blame you, that is a common media frame.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
12. It's complicated
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:02 PM
Aug 2012
The miner said eight Lonmin workers and two policemen had been killed in the violence that began last Friday - the deadliest so far in a membership turf war between the dominant National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) and the newer Association of Mineworkers and Construction Union (AMCU) in South Africa.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/16/us-lonmin-production-idUSBRE87F1DT20120816
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
15. Now you are getting somehwere
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:05 PM
Aug 2012

try to connect dots here. Why do you think a new union is rising to challenge the old? THINK.

This is even more or less common in AMERICAN labor history... THINK.

But going back to basics, you think people go on strike because it is fun?

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
17. It's another example of bad shit happening elsewhere so that we can live in relative luxury
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:14 PM
Aug 2012

Although I think it probable that the catalytic converter was required in the US in order to prop up the South African apartheid regime at the time of its introduction.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
10. Some are army, some are pinkertons, some are police
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:00 PM
Aug 2012

the images come from the many places on the google.

But that is exactly where we are moving back to.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
11. So people like you will never be inconvenienced, and
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 07:01 PM
Aug 2012

a strike is an insurrection? Except for ONE... hardly.

I dare you to tell me which one MIGHT qualify as an internal insurrection.

Sad... but hey in a consumerist culture we cannot have any disturbance, let the peons starve.

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