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Is this even legal? (Original Post) boppers Aug 2012 OP
Bizarre... KansDem Aug 2012 #1
Screening. boppers Aug 2012 #2
If that's cause for rejection... KansDem Aug 2012 #6
ive seen this for every job ive ever had. thought it was standard throughout industry loli phabay Aug 2012 #15
Asking for past employment history is. Implying that you must have been continuously gkhouston Aug 2012 #16
yup you explain the gaps all the forms ive seen also state this loli phabay Aug 2012 #17
Translation: If you have been unemployed at any time in the past 5 years, regardless of kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #3
Or to have a baby gollygee Aug 2012 #4
Yep, they are screening out lots of women with that. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #8
not really. you just write that you were pregnant and the dates loli phabay Aug 2012 #18
But it's a time of no employment, and that is forbidden apparently. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #19
where did you read on the form that its forbidden. the form just asks you to explain gaps. loli phabay Aug 2012 #20
It asks me for employers. boppers Aug 2012 #25
and was there a place to put info about gaps in the history loli phabay Aug 2012 #28
no. eom boppers Aug 2012 #29
Yes Incitatus Aug 2012 #5
In financial services its not only legal, but likely required. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #7
It's JUST AS BAD as refusing to hire the unemployed. kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #9
That isn't the issue. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #13
i think its just to show what you have done over the time period loli phabay Aug 2012 #14
It's for a software firm recently bought by a bank. boppers Aug 2012 #21
That would make sense. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #22
face+palm boppers Aug 2012 #23
I'm not aware of any federal or state law that prohibits an employer, lender, or anyone else... slackmaster Aug 2012 #10
They have done that for years in the trucking industry. sarcasmo Aug 2012 #11
Who remembers what they did in March, 9 years ago? boppers Aug 2012 #24
It's to catch those who may have been unemployed for a month. Honeycombe8 Aug 2012 #12
Of course, you can always fudge the dates. SheilaT Aug 2012 #26
I think it may be a British practise intaglio Aug 2012 #27
but, we can only get two years of tax returns B Calm Aug 2012 #30
Not illegal Le Taz Hot Aug 2012 #31

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
6. If that's cause for rejection...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:13 PM
Aug 2012

...many friends I have would not be working there. Jobs come and go; we all are not going to be able to land that coveted full-time job with benefits the first time out. You work a few years here; you work a few years there. All the while working toward and waiting for that "big break."

But if an employer sees "gaps" in your resume, gaps attributed to "job hunting" or education and training, and disqualifies you, that only adds to the stress and pressure of finding that "dream job."

I'd put this practice up alongside credit checks...

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
16. Asking for past employment history is. Implying that you must have been continuously
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:32 PM
Aug 2012

employed for the last five years to apply for a job, isn't. Instead, there's usually a sentence about "please explain any gaps".

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
3. Translation: If you have been unemployed at any time in the past 5 years, regardless of
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 06:59 PM
Aug 2012

the reason, even if it was to move home to take care of Mom for 3 months, WE DON'T WANT YOU.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
18. not really. you just write that you were pregnant and the dates
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:40 PM
Aug 2012

Same if you are in hospital after an accident or volunteering counting penguins on the north pole.

Incitatus

(5,317 posts)
5. Yes
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:04 PM
Aug 2012

It's not denying you employment because of age, sex, race, religion or disability. Maybe if you were out work for that period because of a disability, there would be a case. idk

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
7. In financial services its not only legal, but likely required.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:13 PM
Aug 2012

If the job requires registration for financial services (sales, customer service, etc) - they go back 10 years and no gaps are allowed. Every month must be accounted for.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. It's JUST AS BAD as refusing to hire the unemployed.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:31 PM
Aug 2012

Assholes. What if somebody got in a bad car accident and wasn't working for a year??

Freaks. They need to be (I won't say it).

It's a 4-letter word that starts with s.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
13. That isn't the issue.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:16 PM
Aug 2012

It is an issue of background checking in that industry. If you didn't work (or were on unemployment), you just note that - Unemployed From-To.

It is part of the consumer protection standards that were set decades ago for people who handle other's finances.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
14. i think its just to show what you have done over the time period
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 08:21 PM
Aug 2012

Im not sure they are even asking if you have continual emplyment just to make sure you havwnt been in jail or something. I think every job ive ever applied for wanted me to account on my work history.

boppers

(16,588 posts)
23. face+palm
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 01:05 AM
Aug 2012

I get the fear, I get the reasons, but seriously, this doesn't do shit other than make my job applications annoying.

 

slackmaster

(60,567 posts)
10. I'm not aware of any federal or state law that prohibits an employer, lender, or anyone else...
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:32 PM
Aug 2012

...from asking that question.

sarcasmo

(23,968 posts)
11. They have done that for years in the trucking industry.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:32 PM
Aug 2012

It's ten years consecutive if you want to drive a truck.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
12. It's to catch those who may have been unemployed for a month.
Wed Aug 15, 2012, 07:34 PM
Aug 2012

Let's say you end employment with company A in March 2005, and begin employment with company B in April 2005. You may have been unemployed from 3/15 to 4/25/2005.

Which is a big whoop de doo. Who cares?

But I think that's what that is intended to catch. OR put exact dates to show continuity.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
26. Of course, you can always fudge the dates.
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:33 AM
Aug 2012

There's always the possibility that this particular outfit will actually check up on each and every job, and verify start and end dates. But so few companies do that.

When I first moved to this city four years ago, I was fired from the first two jobs I got. Had never been fired before, so it was a bit stressful. However, I simply let those jobs disappear from my work history. In my case, I'd been a stay-at-home mom for twenty-five years, so I had a very long gap in employment, and no one in subsequent job interviews ever questioned that I apparently hadn't found any work in the first eight or so months I lived here.

I realize that since I'm a very entry-level employee, what's expected of someone like me on the part of an employer is different from what's expected of others, but still.

When I was first working and looking for work in the 1960's and 70's, I ran across the expectation that you were never out of work or between jobs for more than twenty minutes. However, it has also been my observation that such an expectation disappeared a very long time ago.

Oh. And the federal government used to want you to list all employment going back to something like 1938. My older brother, born in 1943 ran into that in the late 60's or early 70's, and he could not believe that he was running into that.

intaglio

(8,170 posts)
27. I think it may be a British practise
Thu Aug 16, 2012, 02:38 AM
Aug 2012

that has translated badly over to the USA.

This sort of question is normal over here and has nothing to do with unemployment but everything to do with imprisonable offenses. Generally it is normal for a Brit to have periods of what is classified as unemployment; unpaid holiday, temp assignments that are not continuous, academic holidays amongst them, sabaticals. There is no stigma attached to these.

On the other hand imprisonable offenses can carry a stigma, especially for those looking for work with banking groups, so they are often concealed as periods of "unemployment". Whilst dismissal of people with "cleared" offenses can be actionable in the courts, dismissal for lying on your job application is not actionable.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
31. Not illegal
Sun Aug 19, 2012, 07:05 AM
Aug 2012

but completely misguided, particularly in today's economy. Almost everyone has gaps, most not of their own making.

One that is illegal and one that I ran into last week was an application that wanted my birth date which IS illegal. This was for a temporary, minimum wage job. Another way to find out your age (before actually meeting you) is to ask you graduation or attendance dates for high school and/or colleges.

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