what the absolute fuck? Romney says Paul Ryan never planned to go to D.C.

[cali]

Right. Because he's only been in Congress, Mitt, you lying piece of shit, since he was 28. Unbelievable. He has no compunction about blatantly lying about anything.

By Seema Mehta

August 12, 2012, 10:47 a.m.

MOORESVILLE, N.C. — One of Mitt Romney’s criticisms of President Obama is that he’s never had a real job so he doesn’t understand how businesses work. So his selection of Paul Ryan as his running mate presents a bit of a rhetorical challenge – the seven-term Wisconsin congressman has worked in the nation’s capital for nearly his entire adult life.

Romney touched upon his running mate’s lengthy residence in the nation’s capital during a raucous rally here on Sunday, saying that Ryan felt compelled put aside his own interests and go to Washington because he recognized the perils the nation would face because of its spending addiction.

“His career ambition was not to go to Washington, that is not what he wanted to do,” Romney told more than 1,700 supporters at a NASCAR facility. (Thousands more waited outside.) “But he became concerned about what was happening in the country and wanted to get America back on track, and so he put aside the plans he had for his career and said, 'I’m going to go and serve.' And he’s gone there and he’s put country and policies to get America right again ahead of ambition.”


Politics does not appear to be an accidental profession for Ryan – he majored in political science at Miami University in Ohio and has worked in politics since he interned for a Wisconsin senator’s D.C. office while in college. His first job after graduation was on Capitol Hill. He moved back to Wisconsin for two years to work in his family’s business just before he ran for Congress, in 1998.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-says-paul-ryan-never-planned-to-go-to-dc-20120812,0,4345446.story

[livetohike]

1. Yet another VP candidate that wasn't properly vetted!

Romney can't even absorb the facts that are known about his running mate? The guy is dense. Seriously something wrong with the man's brain.

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. He's a habitual liar, but he doesn't care about getting caught at the moment

A lie like this is so easy to check, he knows that his opponents will catch it straight away. But here's his calculation:
Advantages of lying:
Gets cheers from the audience who don't know better, and who want to believe a lie like that
Gets it repeated on wingnut media (eg Fox) and blogs, where it becomes part of the "introduction to Ryan" mythology, and it helps shore up his support among his minions. He knows they are dumb and biddable enough that, once it's established in their minds, they will ignore evidence to the contrary.

Disadvantages:
Democrats will tell each other he's lying - but they're not going to vote for him anyway
Democrats might use it in an online ad

He's probably decided it's not a big enough thing to drive Democrat leaners yet, who might or might not bother going to vote in October, especially this early. You can build your base now, but not push the undecided into your camp. And if Democrats or superPACs try to make a thing about it, he's brought "employment time outside government" into the race - and the Republicans think that is a plus for them (in a bad economy, it may well be, in reality). He can say he's had more time outside government than Obama - and the presidential match-up is the more important one than VP. He wants to be able to talk about his business experience, but without the details of the layoffs, outrageous profits, and so on. If it's just a count of "non-government years", he thinks he comes out ahead.

And he's confident that most media won't report this as "Romney lies". They'll, at most, do an 'opinions differ' few seconds on it. They don't want to get into a big argument with a campaign this early, on a fairly small matter - they need access, interviews and so on.

So, overall, this helped him. And so he lied. Romney will always lie, if he thinks it helps him. This is part of the reason his positions change so much - he lies about them, according to what he thinks will work out best for him. We just have to figure which bits are lies, and which are the truth.

[Betty Jo]

26. I TOLD YOU ALL......

Mitty is in the beginning of a dementia.

[Historic NY]

2. So it just happened....really.....Mittwit.

[Voice for Peace]

3. he has almost perfected the art of eloquent mendacity, but not quite, and since he's not too

bright, he lies about stuff that is SO EASY TO FACTCHECK

[TwilightGardener]

4. Shovel's not enough for this BS, need a backhoe.

[K8-EEE]

5. LOL any Dem who was in congress that long would be "a career politician"

They are so full of shit!

[malaise]

6. WiLLIARd Rmoney

is a pathological LIAR

[Angry Dragon]

11. Willard -- the great American liar and fraud

[Curtland1015]

7. Well if he doesn't want to be there, who are we to force him?

By all means Paul, skip town whenever you want!

[Enrique]

8. Romney found Ryan in a basket in the river

Mitt could tell that baby Ryan was destined for greatness.

[cali]

10. ....

thanks for the laugh.

[JBoy]

38. Made me ROFL.

[kestrel91316]

9. He unintentionally ran for Congress all those years ago?? How exactly does that work?

[maddezmom]

13. well, maybe he retroactively ran

and just stayed. Where is the time machine?

[gkhouston]

31. Got off at the wrong stop on his way to the Smithsonian??

The Accidental Purist

[surrealAmerican]

34. ... and after that, he kept unintentionally ...

... running for office every two years?

[kestrel91316]

35. Apparently. And he's obviously unintentionally running for VP now, too.

[pschoeb]

37. He actually was in D.C. since 1992 til he ran for office

He actually had to return to Wisconsin from D.C. to run for office. He was a career D.C. politico since 1992.

[Salviati]

14. Let me get this straight...

[undeterred]

15. Riding in on a white horse to rescue the country...

These right wingers are so selfless.

[Rose Siding]

16. Soon as the govt paid for his degree he hit out to close the door for others

I don't begrudge him the help he got after his dad died, just the greed and selfishness that he exhibits for others. It defines him.

[Skittles]

29. actually, that defines republicans in general

[Bluerthanblue]

17. Cali sometimes

your outrage voices my own frustration perfectly.

this is one of those. Thanks.



the Ryan spin is incredible- the sad part is I believe the republican base will lap it up without question or effort.

[nc4bo]

18. Willard Romney has turned lying into a religion. nt

[cali]

20. Amen.

[progressivebydesign]

19. Well that is why we USED to have the media. So that candidates can't lie blatantly.

We used to have a media that acted like a watchdog, not a lapdog. They were the ones that would keep guys like that in check, because they knew that it would be panned in the media, and they'd be exposed as liars. Now? pffft. They lie in media interviews, and the fawning interviewer doesn't even question it.

[cali]

21. in all fairness, this wasn't an interview, it was culled from a speech

and where the heck did you think I got it from? That's right, the media.

Yes, the MSM sucks, but this isn't a good example of their suckage.

[KurtNYC]

22. so Mitt's theory is that Ryan wanted to be a waiter and personal trainer forever?

My baloney has a first name....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Ryan#Early_life_and_education

[cali]

23. nah, he had a cushy job if he wanted it in the family business

http://www.ryancentral.com/history.html

[SHRED]

24. Willard will say anything...his MO is fueled by greed

[spanone]

25. once you start lying, it's tough to stop. willard is not tough.

[sellitman]

27. Every day of his life the stupid fuck wishes he was still driving the Weinermobile

Alas.

[MNBrewer]

28. Yup, DC is all he's ever done.

Besides going to college.

[gkhouston]

30. Back on track? Only if you're referring to a narrow-guage railroad from the 1800's. n/t

[hedgehog]

32. His mother pressured him to leave the family business for Washington

because he was using the family job to cover for his actual career as a ski bum!

[elleng]

33. Hey, I too majored in Poli Sci at Miami AND

I'll tell you: That ain't NO BFD!!!

[sad sally]

36. Right. He just wanted to keep driving the weiner mobile around Wisconscin selling weenies.

[Enrique]

39. kicking this preposterous nonsense

[Johonny]

40. Paul Ryan not wanting to be in DC come 2013 is my plan too!

I hope he gets what he wants.