HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Why did Ryan agree to be ...
Introducing Discussionist: A new forum by the creators of DU

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:48 AM

 

Why did Ryan agree to be Romney's VP pick? What does Ryan gain from

tying himself to a floundering effort? Is Ryan deluded enough to think that, with him on the ticket, RMoney has a chance of winning?

I'd be interested to hear DU's speculation.

19 replies, 1497 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 19 replies Author Time Post
Reply Why did Ryan agree to be Romney's VP pick? What does Ryan gain from (Original post)
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 OP
progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #1
FSogol Aug 2012 #5
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #8
sadbear Aug 2012 #15
Motown_Johnny Aug 2012 #2
russspeakeasy Aug 2012 #4
oldtime dfl_er Aug 2012 #3
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #11
oldtime dfl_er Aug 2012 #17
RevStPatrick Aug 2012 #6
Lint Head Aug 2012 #7
still_one Aug 2012 #9
Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #10
Johonny Aug 2012 #14
SDjack Aug 2012 #12
tritsofme Aug 2012 #13
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #16
EC Aug 2012 #18
librechik Aug 2012 #19

Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:49 AM

1. 2016. No doubt it's positioning him. PLUS $$$ from the Norquist/Koch Bros for the future. n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:56 AM

5. +1 n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:59 AM

8. Hmm. But if the Ryan Plan comes front and center and RR go down in flames, wouldn't

 

that hurt Ryan's chances in 2016? Or is the thinking that a rump Repig Party would be even more enamored of Ryan?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #1)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:08 PM

15. Add in the book deals and speaking fees.

He is going to cash in on this.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:50 AM

2. Next in line? A shot at running for Senate. Better lobbyist dollars later on.

More airtime on FAUX. A platform to spew his nonsense from. Etc etc etc.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Motown_Johnny (Reply #2)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:56 AM

4. Yup !

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:53 AM

3. It's usually about positioning yourself

for the next election. It'll be Ryan in 2016.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to oldtime dfl_er (Reply #3)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:02 PM

11. But being VP nominee for LBJ-Goldwater v 2.0 hardly seems like

 

a smart move if the real game is 2016. Maybe Ryan is thinking 2020 or beyond?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #11)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:39 PM

17. It always ups your profile

whether your guy has a chance or not, it still gets you publicity and visibility, and they usually spell your name right.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:57 AM

6. He's gonna lose his seat in Congress.

 

For someone as young as Ryan is (OMG... He's younger than me!!!) a losing ride as VP won't harm him in the long run. This will actually help him save face when he loses his congressional seat, and it gives him national facetime. 2016, 2020, 2024... he's young enough to go for any of those years.

I don't think he expects to actually win this...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 11:58 AM

7. He thinks he is the saviour of the country. He is power hungry just like Mitt.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:00 PM

9. Yes, those with huge egos do delude themselves all the time. I also think he want to position

himself for 2016 if romney loses


Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:01 PM

10. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Tom Ripley (Reply #10)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:07 PM

14. Yip the last two GOP VP picks are on TV when ever and where ever they find one

speaking fees, TV shows, magazine covers... there is $$ to be made being VP for the Republican party.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:04 PM

12. Ryan expected to lose his congressional seat.

Two outcomes: 1) He is elected VP, and will be in a good place for seeking run for GOP nomination in 2020+. 2) If he is defeated, this move to be VP candidate will earn him points with the GOP. He will be a player in the 2016 GOP campaign, with at least a good chance of being a cabinet officer if the GOP wins the presidency.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:07 PM

13. Republicans have a "next in line" philosophy on presidential candidates.

The fundraising networks and exposure he will gain will give him the inside track on 2016.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to tritsofme (Reply #13)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:33 PM

16. Even if RR get shellacked like Goldwater-Miller did in '64? We never

 

heard of William Miller again (at least until his hilarious daughter Stephanie became all the rage on liberal left-wing talk radio

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:40 PM

18. I don't care why,

I'm just glad our district will be rid of him.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Sat Aug 11, 2012, 12:41 PM

19. 2016 n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread