Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:12 PM
kpete (39,116 posts)
AND - buried in the data is the startling disclosure that six of the 400 paid no federal income tax.
Can People as Rich as Romney Escape Taxes? They Can.
By JAMES B. STEWART Published: August 10, 2012 55 On the face of it, Senator Harry Reid’s explosive but flimsily sourced claim that Mitt Romney paid no income tax seems preposterous. Mr. Romney has denied it, and without his returns no one can say for sure. But would it even be possible for someone who makes millions of dollars a year? Evidently, it is. It so happens that this summer the Internal Revenue Service released data from the 400 individual income tax returns reporting the highest adjusted gross income. This elite ultrarich group earned on average $202 million in 2009, the latest year available. And buried in the data is the startling disclosure that six of the 400 paid no federal income tax. The I.R.S. has never before disclosed that last fact. Not even Mr. Romney, with reported 2010 income of $21.7 million, qualifies for membership in this select group of 400. But the data provides a window into the financial lives and tax rates of the superrich. Since the I.R.S. doesn’t release data for the tiny percentage of Americans at Mr. Romney’s income level, the 400 are the closest proxy. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/11/business/in-the-superrich-clues-to-romneys-tax-returns-common-sense.html?pagewanted=all
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| Author | Time | Post | |
| kpete | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| hedgehog | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| Shampoobra | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| sad sally | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| left is right | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| Hassin Bin Sober | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| DearAbby | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| nichomachus | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| HopeHoops | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| HopeHoops | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| Hydra | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| HopeHoops | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| gollygee | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| HopeHoops | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| Spider Jerusalem | Aug 2012 | #11 |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:14 PM
hedgehog (30,580 posts)
1. I can't wrap my head around an income of $202 million.
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That's more than my family would earn in 1500 years!
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Response to hedgehog (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:28 PM
Shampoobra (146 posts)
4. It's only $384 a minute
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which sounds like a lot until you consider the taxes you'd have to ... oh never mind
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:17 PM
sad sally (2,627 posts)
2. Sure hope this won't get any IRS employees in trouble...
Response to sad sally (Reply #2)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 06:31 PM
left is right (1,563 posts)
6. while I don't know for certain
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this study was released in statistical form without any identifying data. that is perfectly legal
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Response to left is right (Reply #6)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:45 PM
Hassin Bin Sober (8,729 posts)
12. You are correct. The 400 top earners is a bracket. Just like the 1 or 2 or 3 percent.
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And to be clear, the IRS isn't saying those 6 families in the top 400 are the ONLY high earners that paid Zero taxes. There most certainly are others in the top 1 or 2 percent.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:24 PM
DearAbby (12,196 posts)
3. Only the little people pay taxes
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We have been warned, via Leona Helmsley
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 05:37 PM
nichomachus (10,085 posts)
5. Bumper sticker idea
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Response to nichomachus (Reply #5)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:44 PM
HopeHoops (47,675 posts)
8. How about "Free the rMoney 1040s"?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 07:44 PM
HopeHoops (47,675 posts)
7. If you make that much, what the hell is the problem with paying taxes?
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We make a "middle income" wage and have no problem with paying our taxes. We drive on roads, have schools, etc. rMoney doesn't understand the value of paying taxes. It comes back ten times over in infrastructure - and that's even WITH everything that's wasted on useless bullshit like military projects the military doesn't even want.
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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #7)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:06 PM
Hydra (9,637 posts)
9. In a word: "Entitlement"
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Ever wonder why they use that word so much lately? the $200+ million per year club is the American Royalty. It's their view that we are LUCKY to have them here to run things, because there's no way little people like us could do it.
As such, we need to pay THEM to do it, and to hell with taxes. Nice people, huh? |
Response to Hydra (Reply #9)
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:06 AM
HopeHoops (47,675 posts)
13. I think the word you're looking for is "assholes".
Response to HopeHoops (Reply #7)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:27 PM
gollygee (12,426 posts)
10. Taxes are for common people
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Like the rest of us.
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Response to gollygee (Reply #10)
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 10:07 AM
HopeHoops (47,675 posts)
14. I think I'll just go eat some cake now - D'OH! I can't AFFORD cake!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 10, 2012, 10:40 PM
Spider Jerusalem (15,472 posts)
11. Which is perfectly legal...
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if all of one's income is derived from investments in tax-free municipal bonds. Considering that this is a perfectly legal way to avoid tax, if one has enough capital to make the return worthwhile, what's startling is that more extremely wealthy people aren't taking advantage of it, not that six out of the 400 highest earners are.
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