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Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:37 AM

 

Hunting critters...

Why? We DUmped Limbaugh, how about the Outdoor Channel? Killing critters? Not, Channel 43, 7:00 - 7:30am. Wed. 8/8/12

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Reply Hunting critters... (Original post)
xtraxritical Aug 2012 OP
badtoworse Aug 2012 #1
xtraxritical Aug 2012 #2
badtoworse Aug 2012 #3
ohheckyeah Aug 2012 #14
MicaelS Aug 2012 #4
nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #5
xtraxritical Aug 2012 #6
Equate Aug 2012 #7
nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #13
aikoaiko Aug 2012 #8
Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #9
Equate Aug 2012 #10
LWolf Aug 2012 #11
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #16
Equate Aug 2012 #18
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #19
Equate Aug 2012 #20
Egalitarian Thug Aug 2012 #22
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #23
hunter Aug 2012 #12
modem77 Aug 2012 #15
coalition_unwilling Aug 2012 #17
MineralMan Aug 2012 #21

Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:41 AM

1. Some of us like to hunt and offer no apology for it.

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Response to badtoworse (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:52 AM

2. I don't get it?

 

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 11:57 AM

3. They're hunting deer in Ohio and bear in Alberta. What's wrong with that?

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:09 PM

14. What's to get?

Some people hunt and fish to put food on the table. Somebody has to kill the critters that you find in the meat department at your grocery store, so what's the difference in killing a cow that was raised in a horrible environment and slaughtering it and shooting a deer? The venison is better for you.

I have mountain trout in my freezer that is the best fish you could ever hope to eat.

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Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:01 PM

4. Analysis: Angling, Hunting are big business

Hunting and fishing provides lots of jobs and tax revenue. And given the number of poor people in this country, many people still hunt to put meat in the freezer. Many Alaskan Natives are STILL subsistence hunters and depend on the meat harvested from hunting.

http://fishpaa.com/2011/05/analysis-angling-hunting-are-big-business/

An analysis conducted by Southwick Associates and Andrew Loftus Consulting for the Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies found that federal excise taxes collected on the sale of hunting and shooting equipment represented an approximate 1,100 percent annual return on investment (ROI) to manufacturers between 1970 to 2006 and taxes collected on sport fishing equipment generated a striking annual ROI of 2,157 percent between 1955 and 2006.

On average, the hunting- and shooting sports-related industry paid $251 million in excise taxes, but made $3.1 billion in revenue through sportsmen purchases each year from 1970 to 2006. From 1955 to 2006, the sport fishing industry on average contributed $110 million in annual tax payments/import duties, but generated $2.3 billion in annual taxable equipment sales.

The excise taxes are collected quarterly from outdoor industry manufacturers and importers for sales on items such as fishing lures, rods and reels, firearms, ammunition and other products. Hunting-, shooting- and fishing-related taxes are collected under the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act and Sport Fish Restoration Act respectively.

“Outdoor activities like hunting and fishing have shaped who we are as Americans and they are important traditions that must be preserved. In order to do so, conservation and wildlife management must be among our top priorities as sportsmen and women,” said Congressional Sportsmen’s Caucus Co-Chair U.S. Congressman Mike Ross, D-Ark. “The revenue from these excise taxes helps fund conservation and wildlife management efforts in a fiscally responsible way. Ultimately, the value and opportunities created by improved habitat and more robust fish and wildlife populations bring more sportsmen and women into the fold, which in turn spurs more revenue and keeps the cycle of investment strong.”


More at link....

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Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:06 PM

5. Because a fair number of people

Do it to put food on the table. Same goes for fishing.

I grew up in a very large city and I get it, not hard actually. It's been relatively recent in the historic clock that mst humans had mostly readily obtainable calories.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:41 PM

6. Orange you luckey!

 

I need to shop.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:53 PM

7. I too hunt

 

mostly game birds, quail, pheasant, duck, turkey, & grouse and I'll take a deer or elk once a year, and I make no apologies for killing my food for eating.
If you knew what went into that store bought meat, you would cringe.

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Response to xtraxritical (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:00 PM

13. My tool of choice is a 300 mm lens (as in a camera)

but I understand why people hunt. If you knew how your chickens were raised you'd have a cow, and speaking of cows, double for them. You really should never look into how pigs are raised and the damage to the environment either.

Hell I even "bagged" some wild turkey and Canada geese recently.

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Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:57 PM

8. Hunting, gathering, and farming are wonderful circle of life activities.


When I grow, gather, or hunt something to eat it really makes me feel connected to my larger environment.

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Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:04 PM

9. Hunting to eat is one thing, but I'm just sick to death of finding the carcasses of animals

 

that were wounded by some asshole that's too fucking stupid and lazy to track and finish the animal they weren't skillful enough to take with their first shot.

Oh, and the headless carcasses left by the trophy hunters.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:10 PM

10. +1000

 

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:21 PM

11. I live in a hunting community,

and spend a lot of time on public lands where hunters hunt.

I rarely find carcasses, and they are never headless. When I do, I usually assume it was a cougar or a pack of coyotes that left the carcass. Or maybe they just caught up with it; regardless, it's always picked clean. It doesn't go to waste.

Most of the hunters locally are about food, not trophies. I despise trophy hunting.

The biggest abundance of carcasses in this area are to be found on the road or roadside; deer and cars don't co-habitate well. I don't get upset with the cars, though; the deer blend in well, don't tend to be about if the lighting is good, and will leap in front of a car at the last minute with no apparent sense of danger.

I've never hit one, but one hit me last winter. I was cruising along and spotted a deer to my left, ready to cross the road. It hit my back bumper on its way by. No harm done to either of us.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:15 PM

16. I wish the prey could shoot back. That would make it at least

 

more sporting and add a certain je ne sais quoi to the entire experience

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:26 PM

18. Not that I agree with you

 

but thought you might appreciate this.

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Response to Equate (Reply #18)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:38 PM

19. LOL- Sharing with my wife who will probly want to post to

 

all her gun-lovin' Facebook friends.

Thanks for that.

See what I mean about the 'je ne sais quoi' aspect?

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:49 PM

20. Agreed

 

I don't trophy hunt and I have nothing but the deepest contempt for those that do. I hunt because the meat tastes better, and after watching a documentary several years ago about how livestock are raised and treated on these factory farms horrified me.
Also the steriods and antibiotics used on these animals disgust me.
We also grow our own vegetables which are 100% organic. Tastes much better.

Besides, I grew up in a family of hunters and I still treasure the skill of the hunt, but I don't vilify those that don't, you know, free choice and all.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:45 PM

22. Now that would be a sport.

 

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If you want to impress people with your woodcraft and all around he-manliness, bring in 12 point buck using nothing but a knife.

Using scopes, lures, doe piss, and hides are nothing more than pointless slaughter to satisfy bloodlust and (well-deserved) feelings of inadequacy.

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Response to Egalitarian Thug (Reply #22)

Thu Aug 9, 2012, 12:11 AM

23. Tee-hee. I think you've coined a new word ("he-manliness"). Like you, I have no quarrel

 

whatsoever with those who must hunt to eat. (I got over the thrill of killing animals for the hell of it when I was about 12 and got a BB-gun for my birthday.)

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Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 02:57 PM

12. I think factory farms are much, much worse...

... and these monstrous meat and dairy corporations advertise everywhere. What do we boycott first?

Most of the meat I ate as a little kid was fish my dad caught.

Eating sausage made from a deer my neighbor shot doesn't seem so bad to me as eating hot dogs made from old dairy cows that lived their entire lives crowded together on mountains of shit.

Hunter is my name, not what I do. If I had to hunt I would, but most days I'm a vegetarian. Even so, I've got dogs and some of their feed originates in factory farms.

People are farmers and hunter-gatherers. It's in our genes.

I believe it's possible to be an ethical carnivore. I think markets as they now exist work against that.

So far as television goes, I've been boycotting all cable or satellite channels for almost a year now.

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Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:12 PM

15. Every time I think of trophy hunters I can't help but think of this song


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Response to modem77 (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 03:17 PM

17. Paired with "Happiness is a Warm Gun" (one of my

 

favs off the White Album)

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Response to xtraxritical (Original post)

Wed Aug 8, 2012, 04:38 PM

21. Here is a hunting critter:

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