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Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:42 PM

Republicans are shitting their pants over NC PPP poll showing Romney losing 46/49 to Obama.

They are crying over the sampling used by PPP (Dems +12).

Follow it now on twitter (https://twitter.com/ppppolls).

PPP is posting voicemails they've been receiving that are kind of funny.

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Reply Republicans are shitting their pants over NC PPP poll showing Romney losing 46/49 to Obama. (Original post)
Dawgs Aug 2012 OP
yardwork Aug 2012 #1
democrat_patriot Aug 2012 #2
former9thward Aug 2012 #3
Dawgs Aug 2012 #4
1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #5
uponit7771 Aug 2012 #6
1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #8
cleduc Aug 2012 #7
WI_DEM Aug 2012 #9
former9thward Aug 2012 #10
nc4bo Aug 2012 #11

Response to Dawgs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:45 PM

1. "ThePalinRevoluation" is very angry today. Very angry.

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Response to Dawgs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:47 PM

2. They should be worried. But with $500 million of corporate hate coming in the months ahead...


they'll be fine.

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Response to Dawgs (Original post)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:48 PM

3. I discount PPP and Rasmussen polls.

Rasmussen is a Republican pollster and PPP is a Democratic pollster. I would rather see independent numbers.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 01:51 PM

4. PPP is a Democratic pollster that DailyKOS uses, so it's best to be cautious, but..

They are also one of the most respected because of their accuracy. Rasmussen, on the other hand, is almost always 3-5 points right of every other polling agency.

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Response to Dawgs (Reply #4)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:31 PM

5. Until ...

Rasmussen, on the other hand, is almost always 3-5 points right of every other polling agency.


About a week or two before the election; then, they are pretty close (one of the most accurate).

I have long suspected that this is their business model. And, actually - if true - is a pretty smart model.

For 50 weeks out of the year, they are a gop propaganda shop, skewing everything to the right. This provides them with a continuous stream of gop clients paying for polls that support them.

Then, for the remaining 2 weeks, they trend closer to reality, thereby preserving the legitimacy as a polling outfit.

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #5)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:33 PM

6. +1, yeap...to be taken seriously their accuracy goes up before the election but I thought PPP

...was accurate throughout the year

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #6)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:54 PM

8. Not really ...

their polls tend to skew to the left ... though to a lesser extent than the 50-week Ras polling.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 02:48 PM

7. As I recall various pollster ratings

I was surprised to see PPP do very respectively. Rasmussen was another story.

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Response to former9thward (Reply #3)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:59 PM

9. PPP, unlike Ras, actually has a good record of accuracy.

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #9)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:35 PM

10. Did they predict the 2010 results?

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Response to former9thward (Reply #10)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:39 PM

11. No one showed up at the polls.

Polls can ask all the question they want from any one they choose but even a poll from the "most likelies" depends on people showing up and voting to prove accuracy. Right?

2010 where I voted, tumbleweeds were blowing through the gym along with a truck load of teabagging types.

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