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Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:35 PM

UGH, wing-nuts are already pulling the false equivalence shit with the Sikh shooting.

So, I posted the shooting story on another message board, and this exchange ensued:


Me: The police called it an act of domestic terrorism, and a left-winger would never shoot up a Sikh temple.

RW nut: No, a left-wing extremist would be too busy working for foreign terrorists as opposed to being a domestic one.

Me: Name an example or shut up.

RW nut: How about President Obama's terrorist buddy Bill Ayers, and his Weather Underground terrorists, as an example? Or people, to a moderately lesser extent, like Jeremiah Wright who bespeak of Latin American socialist "Liberation theology" who scream "God d**n American!" and would rather see nothing but the downfall of this nation? Black Panthers are another shining example.

There's no excuse for terrorism from any side of the aisle - it's just as vile no matter where it comes from. And there's no defense of scum like the KKK or the Black Panthers.

But you're not wanting a discussion on the threat of terrorism. You're wanting to throw out a tragedy for political punches to say: "Look, I was right! Right wingers are terrorists!" so it serves your personal ideology that you constantly eschew here with throwing out words like 'racist'; "bigot"; "domestic terrorist"; "hate-monger" etc. to anyone you politically disagree with on political matters. You do it time and time again. And while it's not nearly as crass or ugly as terrorism itself feeling any modicum of "See, I told you they were all nuts!" in taking from the tragedy of others any degree of self-assurance in your ideology is absolutely disgusting.

Me: Ayer was no longer a terrorist when he worked with Obama.

And that you consider the Black Panthers equivalent to the KKK and consider Liberation Theology to be terrorism tells me that arguing with you is pointless. Sad that you call your fellow Catholics terrorists because you disagree with them theologically.

RW nut: "No longer a terrorist". So that makes it okay I guess. Hanging out with Ted Kaczynski as a buddy because he doesn't kill people any longer is okay since he's no longer a terrorist.

Yeah, you're right, having a conversation with you is pointless.





Note how he talks about our side helping foreign terrorists, and When I ask him to name names he goes off a red herring with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright.

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Reply UGH, wing-nuts are already pulling the false equivalence shit with the Sikh shooting. (Original post)
Odin2005 Aug 2012 OP
DainBramaged Aug 2012 #1
Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2012 #2
Odin2005 Aug 2012 #3
revolution breeze Aug 2012 #4
Poiuyt Aug 2012 #7
Odin2005 Aug 2012 #12
Ikonoklast Aug 2012 #15
Dyedinthewoolliberal Aug 2012 #14
Drunken Irishman Aug 2012 #5
Scootaloo Aug 2012 #9
nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #6
Scootaloo Aug 2012 #8
fascisthunter Aug 2012 #10
Odin2005 Aug 2012 #11
fascisthunter Aug 2012 #13
Dawgs Aug 2012 #16

Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:37 PM

1. Yep, were all anti's now....

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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:41 PM

2. Why even bother?

Talking with folks like that will only elevate your blood pressure

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Response to Dyedinthewoolliberal (Reply #2)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:46 PM

3. I'm a compulsive arguer.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:49 PM

4. Me too

but I have learned some people just are not worth arguing with.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #3)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:54 PM

7. :)

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #7)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:14 PM

12. That's me, LOL!

When I was a kid I always got in trouble because I compulsively corrected people.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #12)

Mon Aug 6, 2012, 10:41 AM

15. No, you didn't.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #3)

Mon Aug 6, 2012, 10:38 AM

14. No you're not!

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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:51 PM

5. So, their response is to go 50 years back for an example?

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Response to Drunken Irishman (Reply #5)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:04 PM

9. Well, to be totally fair...

A lot of posters around here are still living in the Fantasy Sixties, too.

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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 09:52 PM

6. What took 'em so long?

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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:04 PM

8. Bill Ayers isn't a terrorist, and never was

He's a vandal. He blew the head off a statue. some in the weather Underground did plot and possibly carry out acts of terrorism - Ayers was not among them.

He's also equating latin america to terrorism.

How do you talk to these people without stuffing their own arms down their throats?

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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:11 PM

10. dude... these are not just right wing nuts, they are SOCIOPATHS

these are sick, devious individuals who make shit up to justify their detriments to society and their apathy towards victims.

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Response to fascisthunter (Reply #10)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:13 PM

11. The sad thing is that this wingnut I was arguing with is an otherwise decent guy.

But get into anything political and he is a raving nut.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #11)

Sun Aug 5, 2012, 10:16 PM

13. aw, crap... I know what you mean

I have had politically brainwashed friends in the past and they always seemed set into a mode of thought, that never was congruent with the way they really felt.

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Response to Odin2005 (Original post)

Mon Aug 6, 2012, 10:54 AM

16. Sorry to say, but you lost that argument.

You shouldn't have let him use Obama as someone who represents the left - even if you think he does.

Also, you shouldn't have let him use Ayers like he did.

You could have done better.

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