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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:32 PM

Dont believe the hype college is not a scam despite what people are saying

College is not scam and is worth it if you know what you are going there for and what you want to do is a viable career option. Iím making this article because in the last couple years there has been a surge of YouTube videos and articles pertaining to how college is a waste of time and money. And there have been videos of college graduates burning there degrees which I think is absurd. To be an adult and say I didnít know I wouldnít get a job after graduating is complete non-sense. On average to go to a Public university per year is 20000 or 35000 per year for a private university. And going there for four to five years is going to be a considerable amount of money. Right now Iím a sophomore Electrical Engineering student in Ohio.

When I was in high school I prepared myself to go to college through calling and visiting different universities. I filled out more scholarships than anyone else I knew and most people I graduated with were too lazy to fill them out. One scholarship I got which was a couple grand gave two scholarships for each of the six high schools in my city. The school counselor came on the announcements every morning telling everyone about new scholarships she has in her office. The one I just mentioned she must of said it a couple dozen times. And when I received it she later told that me and only one other person applied for it and they go it as well. So when people say well I have all these loans and canít pay them off I donít feel bad. Because there are so many scholarships out there and all of the ones I got are not financial aid based I receive no grants and still go to school for free. There are so many scholarships out there. Also I researched different fields and took certain classes as early as my sophomore year to help prepare myself for college. I saw so many people in high school messing around and not taking senior year seriously while me on the other hand was always on top of my game. I got accepted into five universities and choose the right one through more research of the programs and what kind of scholarships I could get. Also I looked into the job market and unemployment rate nationally and in different states. In college, students in a lot of degrees are almost ignorant of their prospects after getting a graduating. I hear people say well itís not all about the money and should be something you find interesting. And I can agree on that but, what good is a degree when youíre not working and there is double digit unemployment for your field.

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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:37 PM

1. Many of the for-profit "colleges" aren't certified and their diplomas are worthless

in the job market. They are after the federal funding and will enroll ANYONE and take their money.

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Response to rustydog (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:40 PM

3. yeah thats true

but adults should know this im only 19 and i know the unemployment rate and 10 year estimated job growth of my field

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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:37 PM

2. College CAN be affordable. I recommend this book to anyone

trying to figure out how to pay for college:

"Debt-Free U, How I Paid for an Outstanding College Education Without Loans, Scholarships, or Mooching off My Parents"
by Zac Bissonnette

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Response to FSogol (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:42 PM

4. well i think scholarships are the most effective way

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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:46 PM

5. Not to be dismissive but you are really just starting in life.

A lot of us here have a great deal more experience than you and have been watching the game played in this country by the elites for many decades.

Of course some people will do well by going to college but America isn't Lake Wobegon and all American children are not above average.

There are multiple threads on DU about what's happening in the sciences and engineering regarding employment opportunities, plenty of people with advanced degrees in the STEM fields are under or unemployed.

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future" -Yogi Berra

"Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans" -John Lennon



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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:56 PM

7. Alright alright alright

I study history in my free time and i know about what has been going on in the past and how dramatically college tuition is going up. But i still do research and don't wait for things to happen.
And your right. Most employers want to hire people with experience and my university has a co op program were everyone does it and they have jobs for the most part set up before they graduate. I don't know what other schools do but i know i will have a job.

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Response to FunnyChris (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:24 PM

11. I started studying history when I was seven years old..

That was in 1957, we moved into a house that had a giant stack of old National Geographics in a closet, included was the entire WWII era Geographics chock full of maps, photos and articles, every issue from 1942 to 1945 had at least one article on the war effort. I was enthralled and read all of those issues as well as all the rest many times and I've been informally studying history ever since.

It was obvious to me and to a lot of DUers when you were eight years old that Afghanistan was going to be a disaster, I made that prediction to my Marine son in law in 2001 and he thought I was an unpatriotic idiot. He hasn't been willing to discuss the subject with me for years now.

One of the few benefits of getting old is that you gain a different perspective, after a while you realize that many events are circular, similar situations in life and history recur over and over and you eventually start to recognize the signs of a particular cycle starting.

It's my opinion that things are going to get worse, possibly much worse before they start getting significantly better. If and when Obama is reelected this country is going to experience a ragegasm from the Teabaggers and the Wingnuts the like of which we haven't seen in a century and a half and it's going to be duck and cover time..

On the other hand if Romney or some other Republican is elected things are going to get much worse, they always do under Republicans since at least Gerry Ford if not Nixon..

Honestly I think it's going to be a race between our stupid ability to destroy ourselves and our intelligent ability to develop other options, as a grandfather I fervently hope intelligence will prevail but I'm not particularly sanguine about the prospects..











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Response to Fumesucker (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:31 PM

12. I would not vote for romney.. Obama had done alot despite his skeptics.

I know that our country will face a period of change because our energy isn't being taken seriously and peak oil is real despite what palin and her lackeys might think we will run out sooner or later but i will be alive to see it happen unfortunately

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Response to FunnyChris (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:01 PM

14. Jimmy Carter called the energy crisis in 1977 the moral equivalent of war..

In 1980 Ronald Reagan came in and reversed all the positive things toward energy independence that Carter had initiated.. It has been a downward slide ever since with the occasional random jink upwards but the trends have been negative on the average ever since then.

"The future's uncertain and the end is always near" - Roadhouse Blues

I think our political problems are worse than the technical ones, there has been a propaganda campaign in this country for the last thirty years that would turn Goebbels or Molotov green with envy and a great many people have been convinced that up is down and black is white, I have a number of them in my own extended family and they are utterly unreachable.





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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:55 PM

6. I'd just like to add,

it's one thing to approach college as training for a career; it's another thing to approach it as training for life.

I majored in literature and philosophy, and took almost nothing that anyone would recognize as practical. In the nearly 4 decades since, I've never regretted it.

BUT, no matter what subjects you take, make sure you have teachers who are inspired by their material and who can inspire you. That matters almost more, I think, than what you study.

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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:06 PM

8. you are supposed to have enough money to climb the economic ladder

you silly fool!
Did you really think it was about effort? You need to have no soul, and do as the pay masters say, without feeling any guilt. Shame on you for being more human than a sociopath!

**sarcasm**

Ps - to the investor class: your game is over

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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:11 PM

9. A lot of your job opportunities will be in the Military Industrial Complex

You may have to decide what your boundaries are. From what I have seen, engineering degrees pay off even if your path isn't what you may now think. Good luck.

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Response to indie9197 (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:19 PM

10. to add...

I wish I had pushed myself a little more in college and got an engineering degree instead of just a BS in geology. It would have given me more options.

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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:32 PM

13. and this article isn't to make fun or demean anyone just be more aware of your college path

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Response to FunnyChris (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:14 AM

15. College really teaches you how to think and learn.

Something that is really lacking in this country. Logical reasoning skills are few and far between. People don't understand the real causes of problems anymore.

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