Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:40 PM
cali (81,223 posts)
Chick-fi-a support day was nothing but a last gasp
or one of the last gasps. A new Pew poll on support for GLBT rights shows increased support for GLBT rights up across the board- though with repubs it only shows a 5% rise.
Yes, it's distressing to see hate so enthusiastically endorsed, but the haters are losing.
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40 replies, 2973 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| cali | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| Bluenorthwest | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| girl gone mad | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| liberallibral | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| RagAss | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| cali | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| A Simple Game | Aug 2012 | #23 | |
| Lex | Aug 2012 | #33 | |
| A Simple Game | Aug 2012 | #36 | |
| girl gone mad | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| GOPonziconz | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| MrSlayer | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| arely staircase | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| immoderate | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| Pithlet | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| warrior1 | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| Freddie | Aug 2012 | #34 | |
| Mika | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| cali | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| Mika | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| alcibiades_mystery | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| AndyTiedye | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
| alcibiades_mystery | Aug 2012 | #24 | |
| NYC_SKP | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| muntrv | Aug 2012 | #18 | |
| bullwinkle428 | Aug 2012 | #26 | |
| JHB | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| muntrv | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| blkmusclmachine | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| Bolo Boffin | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| Lex | Aug 2012 | #22 | |
| bullwinkle428 | Aug 2012 | #25 | |
| GOPonziconz | Aug 2012 | #28 | |
| randome | Aug 2012 | #29 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Aug 2012 | #31 | |
| Lex | Aug 2012 | #37 | |
| cherokeeprogressive | Aug 2012 | #38 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Aug 2012 | #39 | |
| Thinkingabout | Aug 2012 | #32 | |
| Honeycombe8 | Aug 2012 | #40 | |
| DCKit | Aug 2012 | #35 |
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:42 PM
Bluenorthwest (24,802 posts)
1. I agree, and I'm not distressed. I expect such acting out. Cornered scorpions and all...
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nt
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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #1)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:49 PM
girl gone mad (20,634 posts)
9. I looked through many photos from yesterday's hate-a-palooza..
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It was the same old tea party constituency that turns up for every reactionary right wing gathering. Very few young people, no minorities.
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Response to girl gone mad (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:00 PM
liberallibral (272 posts)
14. Actually.....
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there were plenty of minorities where I was yesterday. Many blacks and latinos happen to hold the same view of gay marriage that Dan Cathy does. President Obama also had the same view until a few months ago...
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Response to liberallibral (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:03 PM
RagAss (13,430 posts)
15. Thanks for stopping in Rush.
Response to liberallibral (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:04 PM
cali (81,223 posts)
16. bullshit on President Obama holding the same view as the hatesters
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until a few months ago. He did not.
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Response to liberallibral (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:00 PM
A Simple Game (4,937 posts)
23. I still can't figure out why so many blacks are against gay marriage.
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It can't be because of short memory, many if not most probably still experience discrimination daily.
Why would they discriminate against another minority? I'm Irish and have read about the wide spread discrimination against the Irish years ago, but only experienced two cases of being discriminated against for being Irish personally. That was enough for me to swear to try my hardest not to discriminate against others. |
Response to A Simple Game (Reply #23)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:53 PM
Lex (32,321 posts)
33. Religious poisoning
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primarily.
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Response to Lex (Reply #33)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:15 PM
A Simple Game (4,937 posts)
36. I knew that, I just hate to think someone would let an ideology
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trump the truth they see with your own eyes everyday.
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Response to liberallibral (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:38 PM
girl gone mad (20,634 posts)
27. I looked at dozens of photos and saw only white faces.
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Unless you can provide proof, I don't believe you.
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Response to liberallibral (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:43 PM
GOPonziconz (38 posts)
30. What bull! Obama most certainly did not hold the same view as these bigots! He
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wasn't sure how he felt about marriage equality but he has never had anything against gays! Republicans attack everyone, Dems do NOT do that unless they're Republican Blue Dogs! |
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:42 PM
MrSlayer (21,570 posts)
2. Conservatives always lose these battles.
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From slavery, to woman's suffrage, to civil rights, they always lose. They go kicking and screaming but they always lose.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:43 PM
immoderate (16,510 posts)
3. I took note of the people who DIDN'T eat there Wednesday...
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We won!
--imm |
Response to immoderate (Reply #3)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:51 PM
Pithlet (25,089 posts)
12. Yep. I've stopped eating there.
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I actually like their food. Especially their chicken biscuits, and their shakes are awesome. But I won't support bigotry. I'm really going to miss the holiday shake.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:44 PM
warrior1 (9,439 posts)
4. Is it possible
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that many of these people didn't know why they were supporting CFA?
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Response to warrior1 (Reply #4)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:58 PM
Freddie (1,508 posts)
34. "I'm not cooking tonight, honey!"
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Many of us look for *any* good reason for that. Or even a bad reason.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:44 PM
Mika (15,064 posts)
5. Do you have a poll breakdown in numbers?
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Thanks in advance.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:48 PM
alcibiades_mystery (28,581 posts)
8. Agreed
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I don't think that progress is automatic, and reaction can be devastating and very real, but in this case, there's not a whole lot of turning back.
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Response to alcibiades_mystery (Reply #8)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:38 PM
AndyTiedye (22,983 posts)
21. So Much Hinges on Supreme Court Nominations
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If the Repiglickins get in, they get to put more wingnuts on the Court.
Lawrence v. Texas would be overturned. Then the debate would instantly shift from whether gays should be allowed to marry, to whether gays should be thrown into prison. Those sodomy laws that are still on the books would go back into effect, and very likely start being enforced again. Teabagger legislatures would pass new ones. Support for gay rights in national polls would be of little comfort to gays who live in those states. |
Response to AndyTiedye (Reply #21)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:25 PM
alcibiades_mystery (28,581 posts)
24. Indeed
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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:22 PM
muntrv (8,429 posts)
18. They way they are clogging their arteries with chikinshit-fill-a, will they be alive in 40 years?
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:52 PM
JHB (17,904 posts)
13. Years from now, when asked about this event people will say...
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"Huh? What are you talking about?"
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:21 PM
muntrv (8,429 posts)
17. What? Did their arteries clog, thus leading to a heart attack?
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:35 PM
blkmusclmachine (3,464 posts)
19. Look at Hate Fil A's Appreciation Day this way:
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For all the thousands that showed up, MILLIONS didn't !!
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:37 PM
Bolo Boffin (22,569 posts)
20. Do a search on "extinction burst"
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I agree with you. I think this is just a kneejerk "way we were" for an outmoded belief that's going down hard. It just may take Chick-fil-A with it, now that Dan Cathy's so happy to openly tie his company's brand to anti-gay activism.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:46 PM
Lex (32,321 posts)
22. The fundies were just so excited to finally get ONE crap-ass store to publicly agree with them.
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Last edited Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:47 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) So they went went bat-shit crazy about eating there on one day.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:30 PM
bullwinkle428 (11,409 posts)
25. Once again, students of history need to refer to my OH-SO-INFORMATIVE
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post on what happened to the very successful "Sambo's" restaurant chain back in the late 1970s... http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1062214 |
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:40 PM
GOPonziconz (38 posts)
28. Good business people DON'T make political statements! It's not rocket science,
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it's common sense and the right wing has none.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:43 PM
randome (14,026 posts)
29. It is a last gasp.
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And we will ride the wave of change to a new Progressive era and finally replace 3 decades of Republican bullshit.
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:44 PM
Honeycombe8 (18,265 posts)
31. Unfortunately, I read that it reported a record sales day.
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Dismaying, isn't it? (if it's true)
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #31)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:18 PM
Lex (32,321 posts)
37. Not really, they have ONE business to rally around.
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And they went apeshit when they found out they had the one.
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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #31)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:29 PM
cherokeeprogressive (15,323 posts)
38. According to Bloomberg, there's more to it than that.
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"Chick-fil-A generated $492 million in earnings before interest, tax, depreciation and amortization on revenue of $1.12 billion in 2011, PrivCo said. It added that the company’s 44 percent Ebitda margin was “virtually unheard of in the restaurant industry.”
The chain has the biggest sales per unit in fast-food, according to QSR Magazine. In 2011, the company generated gross sales of $2.9 million per location, outpacing the average unit sales of runner-up McDonald’s Corp. (MCD) by $400,000, the magazine said in its August 2012 issue. (They did this despite being open only 85% of the time McDonald's is) PrivCo said it valued Chick-fil-A at $4.5 billion using peer multiples of Oak Brook, Illinois-based McDonald’s, Dublin, Ohio-based Wendy’s Co. (WEN) and closely held Wichita, Kansas-based Wil-Ken Enterprises Inc., which operates Popeye’s Chicken and Biscuits restaurants. The calculation factored in the company’s 3-year annual growth rate and Ebitda margins, the report said. The chicken chain has a value of at least $4.3 billion, according to data compiled by Bloomberg, based on the average enterprise value-to-Ebitda and price-to-earnings multiples of four publicly traded peers: McDonald’s, Wendy’s, San Diego-based Jack In the Box Inc. (JACK) and Louisville, Kentucky-based Yum! Brands Inc. (YUM), the owner of the KFC and Taco Bell brands. “It is a very impressive business story,” said Sam Hamadeh, CEO of PrivCo, in a telephone interview. “Whatever people think of the politics, when you look at how we quantify the amount of money they are forgoing every year by being closed on Sundays, you have to respect that.” I've never eaten there in my life, so I can say I've been boycotting them for over 51 years. I hadn't heard anything about the politics of their CEO before he exposed himself so I don't think ALL of their customers can be counted as bigots, but it's going to be interesting to see what happens to those numbers in the future. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-31/hidden-chick-fil-a-billionaires-hatched-as-value-soars.html |
Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #38)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:11 AM
Honeycombe8 (18,265 posts)
39. That says nothing about the sales that day. ????? nt
Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:45 PM
Thinkingabout (1,982 posts)
32. We are all God's children and God does not make mistakes.
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Simply put they need to ask themselves what would Jesus do and then make the right decision. They have much too much hate.
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Response to Thinkingabout (Reply #32)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:13 AM
Honeycombe8 (18,265 posts)
40. I've never understood that saying. I mean...Ted Bundy, other serial killers,
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evil people, Hitler, dictators, child molesters, Sandusky....all created by God and therefore not mistakes?
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Response to cali (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:30 PM
DCKit (18,541 posts)
35. As I said. They've got ADD.
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Let's hope it carrys through to November.
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