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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:52 PM Aug 2012

Here's where Jon Stewart's criticism of Harry Reid fails

The criticism:

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In this case, McConnell may find rare common cause with the comedian Jon Stewart. Stewart mocked Reid’s comments on an episode of “The Daily Show” that aired Wednesday night, comparing Reid’s contention about Romney’s tax returns to the effort by real estate mogul Donald Trump to investigate the birth records of President Barack Obama.

http://www.rollcall.com/news/Mitch-McConnell-Blasts-Harry-Reid-for-Questioning-Romney-Tax-Returns-216697-1.html


Well, Obama has released his birth certificate.



In fact, I'd say Stewart's mentioning it falls into this category: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021062537

Your turn Mitt!





If you insist on speculating about what's in Mitt Romney's tax returns, please do so responsibly
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/10021062671

Sen. Harry Reid Has No Intention Of Backing Down On Romney Tax Accusations
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021063254

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Here's where Jon Stewart's criticism of Harry Reid fails (Original Post) ProSense Aug 2012 OP
I wore the Made in USA tee at our County Democrats fair booth and it makes people vomit insanity. IADEMO2004 Aug 2012 #1
Lol Kurovski Aug 2012 #15
Whaddya know? A comedian gets something wrong... truebrit71 Aug 2012 #2
I'm not sure why Jon went after Reid RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #3
I didn't like it all. FLyellowdog Aug 2012 #4
I didn't either RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #8
What really pissed me off- He was calling Reid stupid for not double checking his facts while jillan Aug 2012 #9
Of course, ProSense Aug 2012 #5
The only media I've seen cover Stewart's attack on Reid RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #10
he didn't think it through, imo Enrique Aug 2012 #13
he also called out Harry on both his unsubstantiated at the time claim and his remarks roguevalley Aug 2012 #14
That makes more sense. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #19
Romney's dad was a public official, he was Governor JI7 Aug 2012 #22
Yeah, but Reid said Romney's father would be ashamed of him. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #25
The difference is Obama had released more than enough legal documentation NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #17
I know that. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #18
Nope, I was agreeing with you NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #23
Okay. RedStateLiberal Aug 2012 #26
it fails even if Obama didn't release his birth certificate Enrique Aug 2012 #6
I said I hated Stewart because he tries too hard too hard to be seen as a moderate. Give me Maher GusFring Aug 2012 #7
The Jo(h)n lost me with his pee rally in D.C. Unless Lewis Black is on, I watch Colbert. part man all 86 Aug 2012 #11
hmm... yeah. agreed. kenfrequed Aug 2012 #12
It was one of those times I totally disagreed with Jon marlakay Aug 2012 #16
Jon was pretty bad again tonight - buying into the RW chick-fil-a garbage Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2012 #20
Jon Stewart is one of those afraid of being seen as liberal JI7 Aug 2012 #21
The Daily Show jumped the shark. UnrepentantLiberal Aug 2012 #24
Just pulling this sunk-like-a-rock from yesterday UTUSN Aug 2012 #27
sometimes Stewart is such a dumbass. nt Duppers Aug 2012 #28
Not a Big Fan of Stewart, To Be Honest canEHdian Aug 2012 #29

IADEMO2004

(5,538 posts)
1. I wore the Made in USA tee at our County Democrats fair booth and it makes people vomit insanity.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aug 2012

They just couldn't hold the stupid inside. Made my hair curly they were so wrong.

 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
2. Whaddya know? A comedian gets something wrong...
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:04 PM
Aug 2012

...He was wrong about the left-right media-equivalency thing with the "Sanity" rally, and he's wrong here too.

The birth certificate issue was used as an excuse to hide right-wing bigotry, Rmoney's failure to disclose his tax returns is being used to show that Mittens is an un-trustworthy, manipulative, goddamned liar..

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
3. I'm not sure why Jon went after Reid
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:07 PM
Aug 2012

but the reason he brought the subject up was to show how Fox And Friends were reacting to it and how hypocritical they were for bitching about someone saying things without evidence. That's how the segment ended and it was hilarious.

I guess Dems get held to such a higher standard while Repubs go on and on with absolutely ridiculous allegations with no facts whatsoever. Jon points their insanity out all the time, so maybe he was trying to appear more balanced. Anyway, I agree it was a stupid attack - especially comparing him to Birthers.

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
4. I didn't like it all.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:10 PM
Aug 2012

He practically called Reid a liar...I don't think Reid made his statement up. I think it really happened which makes it altogether different from the crap Faux spews. I can't imagine that Faux actually believes what they put out there...they know they're lying when they say it. Just MHO.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
8. I didn't either
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:18 PM
Aug 2012

and it really pissed me off when I saw Fox use the clip from The Daily Show today to discredit Reid.

However, as I mentioned, the last part of the segment calling out Fox for blatant hypocrisy was funny and to the point. Obviously, they did not show that part of the segment today on Fox so Jon needs to stop giving the right-wingers ammunition in election season.

I know he's just a comedian but studies have shown that a LOT of people actually get informed from that show.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
9. What really pissed me off- He was calling Reid stupid for not double checking his facts while
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:22 PM
Aug 2012

calling Harry Reid stupid while not checking with Harry Reid if those facts are real.

I was screaming at the tv and am so looking forward to Stewart eating some crow on this one.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
5. Of course,
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:12 PM
Aug 2012

"I'm not sure why Jon went after Reid but the reason he brought the subject up was to show how Fox And Friends were reacting to it and how hypocritical they were for bitching about someone saying things without evidence."

...the media will leave out the "hypocritical" part. Still, Stewart's comment serves the purpose.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
10. The only media I've seen cover Stewart's attack on Reid
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:25 PM
Aug 2012

is Fox News. So yeah, it was really unfair and gives the right ammunition.

I'm just trying to understand why he went after Reid. My only guess is he wants a bigger audience and hopes some conservatives will tune in based on this attack. Maybe if they do the vast majority of fair and truthful attacks he makes on the Rethugs will sink in.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
13. he didn't think it through, imo
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:02 PM
Aug 2012

my initial reaction to what Reid said is that it sounded a little like a smear.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
14. he also called out Harry on both his unsubstantiated at the time claim and his remarks
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:29 PM
Aug 2012

about ROmney's father. John holds our side to a higher standard because he knows we can do it, the others not so much.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
19. That makes more sense.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:18 AM
Aug 2012

It was kind of a low blow to bring up his deceased father. I forgot about that part. Thanks.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
25. Yeah, but Reid said Romney's father would be ashamed of him.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:41 AM
Aug 2012

Sorry, but that's just going too far. Yes, his father basically introduced the idea of politicians releasing their tax returns, but Reid should have worded it more carefully.

NYC Liberal

(20,132 posts)
17. The difference is Obama had released more than enough legal documentation
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:23 AM
Aug 2012

a long time ago to show the birthers were full of shit.

Romney has not released anything about his tax returns.

RedStateLiberal

(1,374 posts)
18. I know that.
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:10 AM
Aug 2012

I clearly wrote that it was stupid to compare what Reid is doing to Birthers.

Are you replying to the wrong post or what?

 

GusFring

(756 posts)
7. I said I hated Stewart because he tries too hard too hard to be seen as a moderate. Give me Maher
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:16 PM
Aug 2012

or Colbert any day over this guy. Some DU member didnt agree with me.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
12. hmm... yeah. agreed.
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:46 PM
Aug 2012

I get what he was trying to do, but trying to use a false equivalency to go after Fox's complete bias was the wrong move.

marlakay

(11,370 posts)
16. It was one of those times I totally disagreed with Jon
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:21 AM
Aug 2012

and was sick of his trying to stay in the middle and be nice to both sides. Harry did nothing wrong at all...

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
20. Jon was pretty bad again tonight - buying into the RW chick-fil-a garbage
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:29 AM
Aug 2012

and pushing the free speech b.s.

UTUSN

(70,496 posts)
27. Just pulling this sunk-like-a-rock from yesterday
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 02:46 AM
Aug 2012
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021062522



Impossible new obnoxiousness low for LIMBOsevic (abt REID). & enough terribleness for Jon STEWART to go around:

LIMBOsevic just did a parody that his clueless audience will take as real. He claimed he got a call from "somebody who went to Harvard" who told him that President OBAMA hides his academic records because he had the worst grades in Harvard history, didn't go to classes and was covered-for by his professors. First he did an elaborate setup going on and on about how he took this call despite hating phones, how he has a panic attack when phones ring or otherwise gets five minutes of funk. The only thing he left out was his drug deafness, like when he disclosed it: "I'mmmmmm... DEAFfffffffff!1"

As for Jon, he lost me when he revealed himself to be a Third Way-er, when he staged his rally in response to the BecKKK crap rally. I had discovered him delightedly when he took over the Daily Show from KILBORN, had been slightly puzzled when he wrecked Crossfire, but finally with his BecKKK rally it all became clear. I hadn't needed to ask, what does Jon want? before then, but there at that absurd crapfest where he disappointed that audience that was expecting a Liberal voice and instead served up a Mythbusters street performance, the question presented itself and was answered. From then on I haven't tuned him in, his spot is nicely filled by COLBERT and MAHER. As MAHER said back then, "If you're going to hold (an event) it needs to be about something." And MAHER's personal jerkoffs are preferable/better than Jon's Third Way thank you very much.

Anyway, STEWART gigged REID for the crack about ROMNEY-pere ashamed of son. He did zing Faux again, however and ended by saying, "There's enough terribleness to go around." Still, eye glint aside, wink wink, he still play-dates O'LOOFAH.
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