Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:45 PM

the longer that Chik Fil A stays in the headlines, the worse for our side

- boycotting is one thing, and is not the problem.

- politically trying to block businesses from opening stores based on the personal bigotry of the ceo was a mistake. Rahm and the Boston mayor fucked up. They gave the right wing bigots the ability to, amazingly, claim the high ground. It is simple not okay to block a business from doing business based on the personal opinions of the ceo, as long as the business doesn't discriminate in hiring or serving.

We've now given the right wing their new "ground zero mosque" or "war on christmas" to whip up their base and change the subject away from romney for the next several weeks.

Mr. Cathy is a bigot. As long as that bigotry is not manifested in his hiring and serving policies, it is perfectly legal for him to be an asshole bigot. And boycotting his businesses is a valid and justified response. But Chicago and Boston governments CANNOT bloc him from opening up stores. That *is* government intruding on free speech. We've now amazingly turned Mr. Cathy into the victim, and a sympathetic figure.

LET IT SINK.

Sometimes our side is politically stupid. Calling for a boycott should have been all we did... Not Rahm's stupid overreach.

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the longer that Chik Fil A stays in the headlines, the worse for our side (Original post)	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	OP
More people know they're bigots now than ever before and that's a good thing.	Lex	Aug 2012	#1
it gives the media a shiny object that saves romney	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	#2
I think this story will die within the next day or so. It might take a little longer on DU, but it	madinmaryland	Aug 2012	#3
I think the people that line up outside CfA in 95° heat are the lunatic fringe.	lpbk2713	Aug 2012	#4
not worried about them... worried about them suffocating news coverage	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	#6
Let's face it, it back-fired.	demosincebirth	Aug 2012	#5
A major fart in a small room.	russspeakeasy	Aug 2012	#8
I don't give a damn.	Arkana	Aug 2012	#7
calling it out is proper. using govt apparatus (aka Rahm) is NOT.	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	#17
Agreed.	earthside	Aug 2012	#9
I don't think so. Support for Gay marriage is going to be a plank in the Democratic platform.	upaloopa	Aug 2012	#10
Agree completely.	randome	Aug 2012	#12
If the majority of the country supports it	Right Hand of Dog	Aug 2012	#24
It loses at the ballot box because too many people don't give enough of a damn to get off their	upaloopa	Aug 2012	#39
I disagree completely	lunatica	Aug 2012	#11
not even remotely what I am saying	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	#18
Are they really blocking them (denying permits to build, to serve, shutting them down)? From	AlinPA	Aug 2012	#23
Except no government is blocking them. This is a Strawchicken.	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#31
Please detail for us the government actions that have been taken	MNBrewer	Aug 2012	#40
rahm emmanuel's alderman	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	#44
Rahm Emmanuel has is OWN Alderman???	MNBrewer	Aug 2012	#45
Yeah but they look like this:	SomethingFishy	Aug 2012	#13
Completely agree. Keep boycotting. The boycott will outlast the right-wingers feeding frenzy.	denverbill	Aug 2012	#14
Boycotts are good	Right Hand of Dog	Aug 2012	#25
We should note that Menino did not do anything	LibAsHell	Aug 2012	#15
The whole thing won't change anyone's mind on either side	Gman	Aug 2012	#16
a side show that is dominating news coverage	scheming daemons	Aug 2012	#20
Define 'our side'. You keep saying that, but you imply Rahm is on my side, and I don't think so	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#29
It's summer	Gman	Aug 2012	#38
It is fine to point out what Mr. Cathy represents but this has reached levels of distraction.	gordianot	Aug 2012	#19
Completely disagree.	Zoeisright	Aug 2012	#21
You've heard of ADD, right?	DCKit	Aug 2012	#22
I disagree.	Swede	Aug 2012	#26
and THAT is preciely the error in your argument.	brooklynite	Aug 2012	#28
I do not agree with you. Do you have proof that they have even one gay store 'operator'?	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#32
Doesn't he give money to anti-gay groups?	lunatica	Aug 2012	#36
Of course he does, and the company does as well. That poster is making assertions without	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#37
Look, Rham can poison wells like the good Thrid Way minion he is	Bluenorthwest	Aug 2012	#27
Well, I'll say this, the CfA brouhaha has outed one of my relatives to me as a bigot..	Fumesucker	Aug 2012	#30
I'd go farther than that...	Comrade_McKenzie	Aug 2012	#33
I'm disgusted with CFA, but I too would like the story to sink	ecstatic	Aug 2012	#34
No, all it means is that Rahm and the Boston mayor are fucking idiots. And they're going to keep...	Poll_Blind	Aug 2012	#35
I feel for the sane franchisees,	Ruby the Liberal	Aug 2012	#41
that seems not to be a parallel construction	MNBrewer	Aug 2012	#42
Separation of Church and State.	Ruby the Liberal	Aug 2012	#43

Response to scheming daemons (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:47 PM

Lex (32,248 posts)

1. More people know they're bigots now than ever before and that's a good thing.

I don't care about the fundies being happy about their one chicken sandwich chain that they can happily claim as "theirs."

the longer that Chik Fil A stays in the headlines, the worse for our side

1. More people know they're bigots now than ever before and that's a good thing.

2. it gives the media a shiny object that saves romney

3. I think this story will die within the next day or so. It might take a little longer on DU, but it

4. I think the people that line up outside CfA in 95° heat are the lunatic fringe.

6. not worried about them... worried about them suffocating news coverage

5. Let's face it, it back-fired.

8. A major fart in a small room.

7. I don't give a damn.

17. calling it out is proper. using govt apparatus (aka Rahm) is NOT.

9. Agreed.

10. I don't think so. Support for Gay marriage is going to be a plank in the Democratic platform.

12. Agree completely.

24. If the majority of the country supports it

39. It loses at the ballot box because too many people don't give enough of a damn to get off their

11. I disagree completely

18. not even remotely what I am saying

23. Are they really blocking them (denying permits to build, to serve, shutting them down)? From

31. Except no government is blocking them. This is a Strawchicken.

40. Please detail for us the government actions that have been taken

44. rahm emmanuel's alderman

45. Rahm Emmanuel has is OWN Alderman???

13. Yeah but they look like this:

14. Completely agree. Keep boycotting. The boycott will outlast the right-wingers feeding frenzy.

25. Boycotts are good

15. We should note that Menino did not do anything

16. The whole thing won't change anyone's mind on either side

20. a side show that is dominating news coverage

29. Define 'our side'. You keep saying that, but you imply Rahm is on my side, and I don't think so

38. It's summer

19. It is fine to point out what Mr. Cathy represents but this has reached levels of distraction.

21. Completely disagree.

22. You've heard of ADD, right?

26. I disagree.

28. and THAT is preciely the error in your argument.

32. I do not agree with you. Do you have proof that they have even one gay store 'operator'?

36. Doesn't he give money to anti-gay groups?

37. Of course he does, and the company does as well. That poster is making assertions without

27. Look, Rham can poison wells like the good Thrid Way minion he is

30. Well, I'll say this, the CfA brouhaha has outed one of my relatives to me as a bigot..

33. I'd go farther than that...

34. I'm disgusted with CFA, but I too would like the story to sink

35. No, all it means is that Rahm and the Boston mayor are fucking idiots. And they're going to keep...

41. I feel for the sane franchisees,

42. that seems not to be a parallel construction

43. Separation of Church and State.