Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:30 PM
kpete (38,900 posts)
THIS Is What Reid Did!
He got Fox News to put in huge letters across the bottom of the screen that Romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years. Well played, Reid, well played. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/02/1116103/-This-is-what-Reid-did
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96 replies, 15999 views
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| kpete | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| Wounded Bear | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| tk2kewl | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| 1StrongBlackMan | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| tk2kewl | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| 1StrongBlackMan | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| rainy | Aug 2012 | #27 | |
| aquart | Aug 2012 | #30 | |
| Dutton Peabody Esq. | Aug 2012 | #38 | |
| Iliyah | Aug 2012 | #41 | |
| tk2kewl | Aug 2012 | #53 | |
| 1StrongBlackMan | Aug 2012 | #60 | |
| tex-wyo-dem | Aug 2012 | #74 | |
| Kablooie | Aug 2012 | #57 | |
| 1StrongBlackMan | Aug 2012 | #61 | |
| pscot | Aug 2012 | #96 | |
| BlueToTheBone | Aug 2012 | #63 | |
| Kalidurga | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| longship | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| spartan61 | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| MADem | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| WheelWalker | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| Spitfire of ATJ | Aug 2012 | #21 | |
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:31 PM
Wounded Bear (2,892 posts)
1. W Mitt could be in trouble if Fax is reporting this....nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:31 PM
tk2kewl (12,649 posts)
2. turning their own noise machine against them
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nice!
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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #2)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:35 PM
1StrongBlackMan (5,417 posts)
6. I wonder if romney knows ...
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that he is the guest of honor at the up-coming convention "blanket party?"
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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #6)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:38 PM
tk2kewl (12,649 posts)
10. ya think?
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i don't know. you expect a different nominee?
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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:04 PM
1StrongBlackMan (5,417 posts)
20. Actually ...
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I have speculated on this previously.
Looking at the gop primaries, time is not a very good friend to gop candidates. Each of the gop candidates (with the exception of Huntsman) were all loved for about 6-8 weeks, before they they opened their mouths and the stupid fell out. It would not surprise me, and it would probably be a good strategy, to replace romney at the convention with a conservative with high name recognition, to run the type of campaign that romney was attempting to run ... go everywhere and say nothing that'll offend the base. Waiting until the convention will cut the time for the Democratic team to expose the new-comer; but limit the time for the candidate self-destruct. |
Response to rainy (Reply #27)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:52 PM
aquart (67,538 posts)
30. Bush.
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Womanizer with smuggler wife and addicted, criminal children. Jeb needs 4 more years for clean up.
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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #20)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:39 PM
Dutton Peabody Esq. (1 post)
38. Agree Completely
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...to SBM...
I've also had that terrible thought. And, it was played out successfully in the recall of CA Governor Grey Davis. Do you remember that it was Darrel Issa (R-CA) who was the point man and presumptive nominee? He was pushed aside for Hollywood's own Ahnold! Every God-awful thing that was said about Schwarzenegger was dismissed as left wing conspiracy and gutter politics. All of it and worse turned out to be true, of course, but there wasn't enough time to corroborate the rumors. Davis was recalled on Oct. 7 and voted out Nov. 13. The repeat performance of the same story was Sarah Palin. Dick Cheney could have let us know what he was thinking in 2004. Again time was a factor in uncovering who she actually was. Worse yet, all of that took place before Citizens United. Nice hearing from you, but Jeeeze... |
Response to Dutton Peabody Esq. (Reply #38)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:54 PM
Iliyah (2,360 posts)
41. And Issa cried like a spoiled baby
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I rememba - LOL
I didn't vote for Arnie but a lot of Dems did and look what we got. |
Response to Dutton Peabody Esq. (Reply #38)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:41 PM
tk2kewl (12,649 posts)
53. Very interesting comparison
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Any speculation on who they would pitch as the alternative?
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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #53)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:32 PM
1StrongBlackMan (5,417 posts)
60. I'm thinking it would depend on ... the timing ...
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Whether or not romney has announced his VP pick. If it is, post pick ... The alternative will be the VP candidate; If it happens before the VP announcement ... who knows?
I suspect that it'll be post announcement and after a very ugly convention. |
Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #60)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:17 AM
tex-wyo-dem (2,106 posts)
74. Damn, I think you may be on to somthing, 1SBM...
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Rmoney has never been that popular with the gop base, and I think the rethug power brokers are realizing that he is on the verge of self-destructing. Makes perfect sense that a split convention could be a reality.
Now, the question is: who might be the backup nominee? Enough time has passed the some of the former primary characters may still be eligible (much of voting public has forgotten about all the mud-slinging)...my thought is Santorum since he was giving mitt a run for his money throughout much of the primary. But I would put my money on a dark horse...jeb maybe, but I think he is waiting for 2016. Huckabee?? Definitely teabagger/conservative cred and didn't he kind of help orchestrate the chil-fil-a conservo-circlejerk? Hmmm... |
Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #20)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:16 PM
Kablooie (8,863 posts)
57. It's clear that Romney won't be the nominee.
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The whole GOP machine has been turning on him.
As to Bush, I don't know. I just know it will make it harder for Obama to win because the conservative leaning voters will be so glad to get rid of Romney they'll run out to vote in record numbers for just about anyone. We may lose this one yet. |
Response to Kablooie (Reply #57)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:34 PM
1StrongBlackMan (5,417 posts)
61. Nawww ...
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We may lose this one yet.
Those that'll vote for just anyone are already gonna vote for romney ... they're already counted. |
Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #20)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:09 PM
pscot (13,934 posts)
96. You really think some Repuglican
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is going to step forward and voluntarily fall on their sword? It would be a career killer, which leaves out Jebby. It would have to be some complete attention whore like Newt or Ron Paul. The House would almost certainly turn over. I don't see it.
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Response to tk2kewl (Reply #10)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:04 PM
BlueToTheBone (2,363 posts)
63. They can't find a VP
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I don't think they could find both a this point.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:33 PM
Kalidurga (4,822 posts)
3. Romney snubbed Fox reporters...
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He will soon find out how big of a mistake that was.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:33 PM
longship (17,715 posts)
4. This is a pretty important post
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R&
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:35 PM
spartan61 (1,824 posts)
5. Reid must be pretty sure of his facts
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about this because if he is wrong, it could come down hard on him. Good for you, Senator!!
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Response to spartan61 (Reply #5)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:44 PM
MADem (86,169 posts)
14. Why would it come down hard on him? He did what needed doing, and did it brilliantly.
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If you read his full statement, he covered his ass beautifully. There is no blow-back on these remarks at all.
The only way Reid could be proven to be "wrong" is if Mitt releases those returns. We already know the returns are so bad that Mitt does not WANT to release them. Now, if I were a betting sort, I'd bet that the "businessman" that Reid talked to was a fellow he does "business" with on a regular basis....someone who had ACCESS to those returns. Someone who thought Sarah Palin was the better candidate. Yes, I am talking about John McCain. Don't tell me those old war horses don't talk across the aisle on occasion. |
Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:56 PM
WheelWalker (4,921 posts)
19. Bingo.
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I think you've hit on it. Great insight.
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Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:06 PM
Spitfire of ATJ (7,407 posts)
21. "Don't tell me those old war horses don't talk across the aisle on occasion."
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ESPECIALLY since the Republicans have gone insane.
McCain walked out on a hearing where a Republican was advocating torture. |
Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:57 PM
aquart (67,538 posts)
32. omg. It's so obvious now that you said it.
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Damn, you're sharp.
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Response to aquart (Reply #32)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:06 PM
MADem (86,169 posts)
36. I used to (almost) work on the Hill--well, I was up there often enough to be recognized.
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I do the old Occam's Razor thing when I see something interesting happen.
You'd be surprised how much shit crosses the aisle, even in these "uncivil" days. I was up there when Newt was screwing Calista on the Speeeekah's conference room table. It was VERY "uncivil" back then, too but people will chat--in the Senate cloakroom and elsewhere. |
Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:02 PM
siligut (11,147 posts)
34. Reid originally said the person was a Bain investor
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Did McCain invest in with Bain? That would be funny.
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Response to siligut (Reply #34)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:30 PM
bayareaboy (585 posts)
37. I don't think so ...
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But I can figure that lots of LDS folks who worked in the accounting offices in Vegas might have mentioned it in passing talking to a Senator or maybe a church regular, who might also be a Senator. Howard Hughes stuffed his accounting offices in Los Vegas with LDS followers, because he felt they were Honest to a fault. That was then, this is now. |
Response to bayareaboy (Reply #37)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:16 PM
siligut (11,147 posts)
45. I know gossip is rampant with the LDS members I worked with, but that was personal . . .
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Is there a problem with business gossip as well? That would be a huge security problem. The article at HuffPo that first broke the story said that the Bain investor called Reid on the phone about a month ago.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html Saying he had "no problem with somebody being really, really wealthy," Reid sat up in his chair a bit before stirring the pot further. A month or so ago, he said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office.
"Harry, he didn't pay any taxes for 10 years," Reid recounted the person as saying. "He didn't pay taxes for 10 years! Now, do I know that that's true? Well, I'm not certain," said Reid. "But obviously he can't release those tax returns. How would it look? I knew about Hughes and his Mormon mafia and the general belief that Mormons are honest. I also know that those Mormons claimed Hughes left a will that bequeathed something like $15 mil to them and that was later determined to be fraudulent. I think some Mormons are extra good and honest, but I think the Mormons who take advantage of that belief to swindle outnumber them now. |
Response to siligut (Reply #34)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:12 PM
MADem (86,169 posts)
43. McCain may not have, but his wife may have--she never released her returns.
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Or Reid could have gotten the information from McCain, and confirmed it with someone else who has ties to Bain.
It is not uncommon for sourcing to be done thusly. One guy could be talking and giving an interview about some crapola going on about a political issue, and they could be cited in such a way as to make the reader think that the person is more than one individual. Examples: A Senior Administration Official State Department sources A Source Close to the Pentagon A Former Military leader All of those could be Colin Powell under Dubya's regime. Similarly, these stories can be written to make several people look like one person (the most famous of whom was "Deep Throat"--most of his stuff came from Mark Felt...but not all). McCain knows the game, and so does Reid. A "Bain investor" could be a guy who bought ten reams of paper at Staples--if you want to be very loose with the term! |
Response to MADem (Reply #43)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:20 PM
siligut (11,147 posts)
46. Exactly! That is the funny part.
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Well said.
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Response to siligut (Reply #34)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:17 PM
aquart (67,538 posts)
58. An investor would not see Mitt's returns, would he?
Response to aquart (Reply #58)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:49 PM
siligut (11,147 posts)
62. Not in any normal situation
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But, you know, Reid and Romney are Mormons and Mormons tend to stick together. So, it is possible that Mitt's handling of money was demonstrated, to a possible Mormon investor, through his own personal finances. The thinking would be that a fellow Mormon would be in-the-loop and could be trusted with such knowledge. This is all speculative. And as pointed out above, the term "investor" may be the least effective identifier of Reid's source.
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Response to aquart (Reply #58)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 03:46 AM
MADem (86,169 posts)
76. Normally, no. I shouldn't think so, anyway.
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There has to be another connection.
Like, say, a connection to John McCain, who looked at ten years' worth of Mitt's tax returns and found Sarah Palin a better VP candidate. |
Response to MADem (Reply #76)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:00 AM
Mopar151 (6,056 posts)
84. I think a McCain staffer may have spilled the beans
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'Cuz you know all Grumpy saw was a stack of paper - but I'm sure he was told (Jeezus, Boss, you ain't gonna beleive this!), and it would'nt surprise me a bit if the staffer kept a few photocopies tucked away for insurance......
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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #84)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:11 AM
MADem (86,169 posts)
87. McCain has a military mind, and he spent his final years on active duty MIRED in paperwork.
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He ran OLA--which is how he got the idea that being on the Hill wasn't such a bad idea. OLA is nothing BUT paperwork, and the tracking of paperwork.
It would not surprise me if McCain vetted all of Mitt's tax returns himself--out of idle curiosity and a desire to have a "one up" on him should he ever need it. It would also not surprise me if McCain told Harry what he saw in the Senate cloakroom, and pointed him to another "Wish To Remain Anonymous" source that the two of them knew for additional details. It would also not surprise me if this other person was either a staffer (former or present/campaign or Senate office) or a LOBBYIST (with access to, and reason to visit, both sides of the aisle). All of the possible people I've named would be known to Dana Bash, as she is the Senior Congressional Correspondent for CNN and knows a huge swathe of folks who do business on the Hill. |
Response to MADem (Reply #87)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:19 AM
Mopar151 (6,056 posts)
89. Point taken.
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Holy shit, Boss! He did'n pay a friggin dime?
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Response to Mopar151 (Reply #89)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:37 AM
MADem (86,169 posts)
95. I can just hear McCain: "Even Cindy, with all her charities, pays a percentage or two!" nt
Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:04 PM
Cracklin Charlie (562 posts)
35. You may just have something here.
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Is this McCain's atonement for inflicting the delightful Sarah Palin on the citizens of the United States? Now there's a fight I would love to see, right after Rmoney's takedown is complete. McCain v. Palin ps...I think Reid, and the Obama campaign, played this revelation about the tax returns to perfection. Well done. |
Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:31 AM
Chemisse (18,416 posts)
79. Wow. You could be right!
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That would represent unparalleled mutiny in the Republican party.
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Response to MADem (Reply #14)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:04 AM
closeupready (19,487 posts)
85. There we go!
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You got it.
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Response to spartan61 (Reply #5)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:54 PM
dixiegrrrrl (30,880 posts)
31. LBJ was questioned about a similar charge
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he was asked "is there any truth to your charges about your opponent?"
and he answered "who cares? I just want the SOB to have to DENY it" LBJ understood power. the above story came from Robert Caro's latest book about LBJ. The Passage of Power. reading it now, it is extremely interesting. |
Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #31)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:14 PM
MADem (86,169 posts)
44. IIRC the "charge" against the opponent was that the opponent had congress with barnyard animals! nt
Response to MADem (Reply #44)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:26 AM
hifiguy (13,029 posts)
75. Domestic swine, to be precise. nt
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:35 PM
Cary (4,077 posts)
7. Thanks a lot. That image of Kilmeade burst 3 pixels on my monitor. n/t
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:37 PM
Guy Whitey Corngood (14,850 posts)
9. "Guy Who's Not Steve Douchey" looks like hes shitting himself. nt
Response to Guy Whitey Corngood (Reply #9)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:32 PM
lastlib (3,806 posts)
24. He's definitely dropping a turd!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:39 PM
MADem (86,169 posts)
11. And the morons who watch Faux will probably translate REID as READ!
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They'll regard it as an imperative comment.
They'll think the FauxGawds are commanding them to read the sentence....as in READ!!!! Mitt Didn't Pay Taxes for TEN YEARS!!! Might as well put out "BEHOLD! The GOP CANDIDATE SUCKS!" Hilarious! |
Response to MADem (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:52 PM
jillan (31,392 posts)
39. I didn't even think about that! That is hilarious because they can't spell - so they just might
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think that's what it means.
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Response to MADem (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:57 PM
Iliyah (2,360 posts)
42. LOL
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you made my day!
LOL LOL LOL |
Response to MADem (Reply #11)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:34 PM
myrna minx (20,537 posts)
48. LOL
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:40 PM
madokie (36,635 posts)
12. I've always thought that Harry had a lot more going on in his head than that caught in the headlight
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look he has sometimes.
He is no dummy thats for sure. |
Response to madokie (Reply #12)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:48 PM
MADem (86,169 posts)
15. Harry Reid is a former amateur boxer. He is no wimp. He came up in the world rough. And POOR.
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Don't let that quiet demeanor fool you for a second. He's tougher than a box of nails.
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Response to MADem (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:51 PM
mac56 (13,654 posts)
17. True that. And apparently he's quite skilled at the ol' rope-a-dope.
Response to MADem (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:53 PM
freshwest (31,556 posts)
18. +1,000. A lot of them are. 'Still waters run deep.' Blowhards run out of hot air quick.
Response to MADem (Reply #15)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:45 PM
brush (1,038 posts)
28. Reid
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Spot on post. He's as sly as they come.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:43 PM
Ganja Ninja (15,714 posts)
13. Although Jon Stewart disapproved of Reid the use of the footage from FOX was ....
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priceless. To hear them go on and on about people not using facts and just making shit up was too much.
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Response to Ganja Ninja (Reply #13)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:14 AM
rocktivity (36,631 posts)
81. I don't think Jon "disapproved" at all.
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Last edited Fri Aug 3, 2012, 10:37 AM USA/ET - Edit history (2) He insists that two wrongs don't make a right, then insists that Fox News is twice as wrong. He disses Reid for dissing Romney's dead father, then proceeds to diss Romney's dead father. I think Jon was actually paying Reid a backhanded compliment!
link rocktivity |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:51 PM
freshwest (31,556 posts)
16. The only thing I'd have added to the crawl was: 'But you did! How do you like that?'
Response to freshwest (Reply #16)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:19 PM
mainstreetonce (407 posts)
23. Could be McCain
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Or someone who was vetting VP candidates for him who is now angry with Romney.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:17 PM
magnifisense (285 posts)
22. Is this the new Harry Reid? I like it.
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He's really sticking it the Republicans now, but still maintains that calm demeanor.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:36 PM
yodermon (4,770 posts)
25. since TAXES ARE BAD (fox news propaganda) then NOT PAYING THEM is a VIRTUE.
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that romney figured out how to avoid all his taxes; hell, maybe he'll make is so *I* don't have to pay taxes neither! Huh!
This is how it will play in teabag-land. |
Response to yodermon (Reply #25)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:03 PM
charlyvi (4,427 posts)
55. Exactly. Tax evasion is a virtue among Fox viewers. n/t
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Response to yodermon (Reply #25)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:47 PM
Amonester (10,185 posts)
71. Yeah, but indies leaning Dems, not so much...
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if not not at all.
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Response to Amonester (Reply #71)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:22 AM
onenote (22,023 posts)
92. How many indies leaning Dems watch Fox News?
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:41 PM
Berlum (3,729 posts)
26. OK, Willard. Show us the documents. Now
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No more Republican occultism, Willard.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:59 PM
libodem (11,863 posts)
33. That Steve Doofey
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Sure has the right name!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:53 PM
ecstatic (18,603 posts)
40. wow! I'm shocked.
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Didn't think they would touch the story with a 10 foot pole.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:29 PM
savannah43 (520 posts)
47. I love it when the DEMS fight dirty.
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Took them long enough.
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Response to savannah43 (Reply #47)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:13 PM
RagAss (13,415 posts)
65. Chicago style politics. Kick them in the balls until they beg for a kick in the mouth.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:37 PM
ErikJ (2,694 posts)
49. "SOME people are SAYing"
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Is what they usually preface their Drudge Report manufactured rumors of Dems.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:59 PM
Brigid (10,590 posts)
50. Now that is a thing of beauty!
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:10 PM
craigmatic (3,226 posts)
51. Harry's got balls it's just that he doesn't show it that much.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:23 PM
Stuckinthebush (8,253 posts)
52. I don't care what Jon Stewart said...
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This was brilliant
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Response to Stuckinthebush (Reply #52)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:15 AM
MADem (86,169 posts)
88. Stewart is not always right. This was one time where he missed the mark by a mile.
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This is one of those "Ten steps ahead" political games.
Harry throws down, Mitt expresses umbrage, only to be told that he can solve the problem in one fell swoop... because he's the guy that we all KNOW has got the definitive answers. It's a no-win for Mitt! It's "LBJ's pig," as it were... |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 06:58 PM
LiberalLovinLug (2,027 posts)
54. There could be a good reason FOX is running this
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And that is it is all a Rovian ploy, ie. Bush's military record & Dan Rather
Harry Reid and the Dems should be cautioned that if a story is too good (or bad) to be true...it probably is. It smells like a typical Rove sleazeball setup. They let this story simmer for a bit, even having their mouthpiece FOX put it out there. In fact that part is crucial. Because then FOX can say that, gosh darn, they had no idea. And that idea is this; Mitt's camp knows that the pressure will mount until there is no other way around it, and he does release his taxes for at least those 10 years. So he will, and it will reveal such things as paying only a 15% tax rate, and offshoring his money in the Caymans etc.....All those things that he would have gotten grief for a few weeks ago. But NOW, the stakes are raised....and all he has to do is to DISPROVE these outlandish allegations that were whispered into the ear of a gullible Reid who brashly took it straight to the media. FOX News will have a field day. How the Lame Stream Liberal Media fooled even them into running with this story. How they were tricked along with their loyal viewers, and that finally now the press MUST lay off Mitt about his finances. And if history has taught us anything, the other networks WILL lay off. Sure a few small voices will try and point out that....hey, what about the other facts in the original story? The 15% and the Caymans? But just like the Rather fiasco, everything will go in the dust bin. I hope I am wrong. I just think the Dems should tread very lightly and stop this trumpeting some rumour fed to them. |
Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #54)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:18 PM
Kablooie (8,863 posts)
59. But that would only affect Reid which isn't a big win since he's not running for anything.
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I'm sure they plan to sink Romney and install a different puppet in his place.
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Response to Kablooie (Reply #59)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:38 AM
AverageJoe90 (5,373 posts)
73. As much as Rove and co would love that.....
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I don't think it'll happen. Any switches they pull now could potentially backfire real badly on them; Romney's no Reagan but he does still have supporters, some of whom are Teabaggers.......
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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #54)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:10 PM
RagAss (13,415 posts)
64. You sound too concerned about Rove...
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If he had any bullets left after Shrub, John McCain would be President today.
Harry played this perfectly. |
Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #54)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:20 AM
MADem (86,169 posts)
90. I think it is more likely that Murdoch needs friends on the other side of the aisle.
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He's in trouble for phone hacking abroad--his major factotum in UK just got sentenced. He'll need friends in power if that shit floats over this way...and those friends are not likely to be Republicans, the way they're deconstructing and quitting. The Tea Partiers could give a shit about Faux--it's a means to an end; they'll talk OVER them if they must with their creepy little rallies and cadres of true believers.
Reid is not, nor has he ever been, gullible. He is one of the sharpest knives in the Senate drawer. So don't worry--you are wrong, and the Dems should continue to stomp loudly and shout this to the rooftops. It's a win-win for us. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:14 PM
Kablooie (8,863 posts)
56. Romney will NOT BE THE NOMINEE!
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The only reason the Republican channel would spread negative rumors about Romney is if they were told by the GOP honchos that it's okay to destroy his credibility.
They have a golden boy waiting in the wings and will trot him out the end of this month. Who? I haven't a clue but it's going to throw everything into a mad spin, which is just what they want since Obama is growing stronger each day. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:29 PM
bucolic_frolic (708 posts)
66. Rubio-Portman
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Solves most of the GOP problems
Instant Latino credibility and vote gains Instant Tea Party enthusiasm Instant Mid West electoral gains Instant Florida gain Not much legislative record on either Budget respectability will put focus on Obama and deficits Instant Turnaround! You read it here first. I hope it doesn't happen because it would be a stronger ticket than Romney-Anybody |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:58 PM
Jessy169 (412 posts)
67. Dana Bash has a source that can confirm Sen. Reid's allegation.
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ROMNEY IS GOING DOWN!
Tonight on CNN AC360, Anderson Copper opened his 'keeping them honest' segment with Sen. Harry Reid's recent tax allegation about Mitt Romney. Cooper had CNN Capitol Hill reporter, Dana Bash on to discuss the story, according to Bash, her source can confirm Sen. Reid's allegation. Bash went even further, she said this source also personally knows the Bain source who would have access to Romney's tax record. If this Bain source story is true, then, Mitt Romney is in serious trouble. I'll have more later. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:00 PM
fascisthunter (28,608 posts)
68. the Nazis in the US will vote for him
Response to fascisthunter (Reply #68)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:52 PM
Amonester (10,185 posts)
72. Yes, but not the Indies leaning Dems in swing States...
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(Even if they thought for many months of 'punishing' Obama by voting for Rmoney, but they'll sure 'reconsider' their options...)
That's what this 'tax hidding' series is all about. |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:06 PM
upi402 (16,595 posts)
69. Is CNN going after Reid instead of Romney?
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I was at the gym without earbuds and only read the crawler. It was going after Reid- questioning 'What proof does Reid have?"
Well... Romney's returns would be proof! Dumbasses |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:07 PM
marble falls (1,910 posts)
70. What in the world did Mitt do to PO Murdoch?
Response to marble falls (Reply #70)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:34 AM
MADem (86,169 posts)
94. Mitt can't help Murdoch. Murdoch needs people in powerful places nowadays.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135037/Rupert-Murdoch-sends-60k-emails-US-detectives-investigating-phone-hacking.html
The wheels of the gods grind slowly, and all that.... |
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 04:30 AM
canEHdian (62 posts)
77. How Do You Put Up With That Awful "News" Network?
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Propaganda Co., Ltd.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:05 AM
The Wizard (7,020 posts)
78. rMoney will drop out
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because he has to care for the ailing Rafalka.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:39 AM
Zalatix (8,994 posts)
80. LOL!!! FOX GOT PWNED!!!
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:19 AM
sarcasmo (13,550 posts)
82. The Republican convention is going to be fun.
Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:49 AM
marble falls (1,910 posts)
83. Murdoch must really hate Mittski.
Response to marble falls (Reply #83)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:05 AM
Mopar151 (6,056 posts)
86. Roger Ailes has the boss's ear
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Mitt will be bad for ratings in the next couple years, and will tank the economy enough to hurt Rupert's wallet BAD.
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Response to kpete (Original post)
Fri Aug 3, 2012, 11:20 AM
onenote (22,023 posts)
91. Of course, to the FoxNews audience, not paying taxes for 10 years makes Romney a hero
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nt
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