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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:49 AM

CNN: Romney Violating Federal Laws 'Coordinating' With Karl Rove

THU AUG 02, 2012 AT 08:33 AM PDT
CNN: Romney Violating Federal Laws 'Coordinating' With Karl Rove
bykeepemhonest

CNN is http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/... reporting that Romney is violating Federal Laws that govern the illegality of Super PACs coordinating with a Campaign. According to CNN, today Karl Rove and Romney's Adviser, Ed Gillespie, are illegally coordinating campaign strategy at a Policy Briefing in Colorado.



CNN

August 2, 2012 (Thursday): Aspen, Colorado (CNN)

Despite laws barring coordination between federal campaigns and outside groups, Karl Rove and (Paid Romney Adviser)Ed Gillespie are hosting a joint closed-door political briefing with leading Republican donors Thursday.

According to Republicans familiar with the schedule, the two operatives are headlining a lunchtime political briefing for top donors at the Republican Governors Association meeting in Aspen, a posh, closed-press affair where GOP governors mingle with some of their biggest financial backers.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/02/first-on-cnn-rove-gillespie-hosting-joint-political-briefing-in-aspen/


MORE:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/02/1116041/-CNN-Romney-Violating-Federal-Laws-Coordinating-With-Karl-Rove

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Reply CNN: Romney Violating Federal Laws 'Coordinating' With Karl Rove (Original post)
kpete Aug 2012 OP
bigtree Aug 2012 #1
Turbineguy Aug 2012 #2
bigtree Aug 2012 #4
MoonRiver Aug 2012 #12
Coyotl Aug 2012 #16
MoonRiver Aug 2012 #22
Coyotl Aug 2012 #70
MoonRiver Aug 2012 #71
tblue37 Aug 2012 #54
lastlib Aug 2012 #20
thecrow Aug 2012 #34
Kablooie Aug 2012 #50
SammyWinstonJack Aug 2012 #67
SkyDaddy7 Aug 2012 #53
Lint Head Aug 2012 #3
Firebrand Gary Aug 2012 #6
MADem Aug 2012 #5
Voice for Peace Aug 2012 #7
KansDem Aug 2012 #10
Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #35
KansDem Aug 2012 #36
Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2012 #39
CoffeeCat Aug 2012 #61
KansDem Aug 2012 #69
Stuckinohio Aug 2012 #41
jillan Aug 2012 #8
Jamaal510 Aug 2012 #32
Ganja Ninja Aug 2012 #9
IDemo Aug 2012 #11
kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #13
lark Aug 2012 #15
kestrel91316 Aug 2012 #52
hootinholler Aug 2012 #46
Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #66
progressivebydesign Aug 2012 #14
Coyotl Aug 2012 #17
gordianot Aug 2012 #18
Historic NY Aug 2012 #19
berni_mccoy Aug 2012 #21
LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #23
glinda Aug 2012 #26
Ian_rd Aug 2012 #24
Maineman Aug 2012 #25
Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #27
heaven05 Aug 2012 #28
barbtries Aug 2012 #29
Harriety Aug 2012 #30
valerief Aug 2012 #31
ananda Aug 2012 #33
kentuck Aug 2012 #37
Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #38
DCKit Aug 2012 #40
Stuckinohio Aug 2012 #42
Stuckinohio Aug 2012 #48
Amonester Aug 2012 #58
McCamy Taylor Aug 2012 #43
Blue Owl Aug 2012 #44
starroute Aug 2012 #45
pinto Aug 2012 #47
KamaAina Aug 2012 #49
Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2012 #51
blkmusclmachine Aug 2012 #55
fascisthunter Aug 2012 #56
Peaceful Protester Aug 2012 #57
SunsetDreams Aug 2012 #60
justabob Aug 2012 #59
spanone Aug 2012 #62
tclambert Aug 2012 #63
Gman Aug 2012 #64
deutsey Aug 2012 #65
ProfessionalLeftist Aug 2012 #68

Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:50 AM

1. not the first instance, either

. . . better late than never, CNN

k&r

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:50 AM

2. Laws are for

little people.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:52 AM

4. not the culturally superior

. . . of course.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:08 PM

12. You mean "small" people.

I think that's the new PTB official designation of we plebeians.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:21 PM

16. In anthropology, it would be "others" or "other people"

The verb is "othering" and the act is as old as cannibalism, warfare, slavery, and rape. To perpetrate injustice, first comes the rationalization that they are "others" in forms like Nixon's political enemies, or witches, or people of color. Then, it is easy to war on them, steal their voting rights, tax them unfairly, jail them for drugs, etc.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #16)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:30 PM

22. How about we just cut to the chase.

All "others" are simply sub-human. There, now it all becomes very easy.

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #22)

Mon Aug 6, 2012, 08:53 AM

70. The "othering" process goes farther, it removes the others from the human category

Those "people" is not the result. New terms are invented to reclassify others outside the human family. That is why they can be killed, their gold taken, the women raped, their lands seized, etc. This scenario played out after Contact in the Americas. It took the Church a long time to declare that Native Americans were real humans and had souls, but even then, slavery was possible and non-believers could be paraded around the plaza in dunce caps before they were burned to death for thinking.

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Response to Coyotl (Reply #70)

Tue Aug 7, 2012, 12:06 PM

71. Well said Coyotl.

When we visited Australia we learned about the dehumanization of Aborigines there. At one time, tourists were taken on safaris to bag themselves an Aborigine. The heads were then proudly mounted in hunters' homes.

Needless to say our reaction was and

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Response to MoonRiver (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:01 PM

54. The comment is quoting super-wealthy hotel magnate Leona Helmsley,

nicknamed "the Queen of Mean," who was ultimately jailed for tax evasion.

She was quoted by an employee or an acquaintance (I forget which) as saying she didn't pay taxes because "Taxes are for the little people."

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:28 PM

20. "You people"

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Response to lastlib (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:05 PM

34. That's what Ann Rmoney said when telling off the black reprter about the taxes

"we released our taxes for a year and that's all YOU PEOPLE need to know" (sic)

I'm surprised that more people didn't jump on the "you people" part of that
because she was obviously talking to an "other" and smiling while belittling her.
I suppose she was thinking she was culturally superior to the reporter.... after all, she's rich!

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:10 PM

50. Laws are for Democrats.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #50)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 09:35 AM

67. +1.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 07:48 PM

53. ...And Democrats!!

If Obama were doing the same thing the entire press would be screaming about it on every channel & the GOP would be opening up investigations!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:51 AM

3. I clicked on the blog link and got this.


Not Found

Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here.

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Response to Lint Head (Reply #3)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:53 AM

6. The link in the grey box works, I just checked!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:53 AM

5. What brass! nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:55 AM

7. "we go to the big house"

not the white house.. do you suppose they'll be charged?

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:05 PM

10. Photo of their "big house"


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Response to KansDem (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:13 PM

35. The house he sold in Deer Valley was nice.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #35)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:18 PM

36. House? That looks like a village!


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Response to KansDem (Reply #36)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:49 PM

39. The Romneys ARE a village.

Have you seen the family pictures?


What's with blue and white checkered shirts?


Here all the boys are in navy and the girls in white.


Nice shot of them in the gene pool.

The Republican establishment want this to be a political dynasty to replace the Bush family.

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Response to KansDem (Reply #36)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:03 AM

61. And it takes a village...

...to clean all 12 bathrooms in that house.

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Response to CoffeeCat (Reply #61)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 10:03 AM

69. That's right! Mitt's a "jobs creator!" (nt)

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Response to Voice for Peace (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:30 PM

41. Of course not Karl plays by a different set of rules

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:58 AM

8. As if CNN would ever report on this on their cable news shows. Wolf???

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Response to jillan (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:03 PM

32. You expect Mr. -$4,600 to report this on his show??

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:59 AM

9. Time to revoke Crossroads GPS's tax exempt status.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:07 PM

11. Law, shmaw

IOKIYAR

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:13 PM

13. Laws don't apply to white folks with incomes over $250k.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:18 PM

15. Laws don't apply to white folks with incomes over $250K

who are Repugs. Laws for some funny reason do seem to apply to Dems, no matter what the income.

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Response to lark (Reply #15)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:44 PM

52. I forgot to add that.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #13)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:47 PM

46. Bullshit, ask Don Seigleman (sp?) n/t

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #13)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 09:33 AM

66. Martha Stewart begs to differ with you....

nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:16 PM

14. I think a great ad would be: "If you liked GWB, you'll LOVE Romney" with a pic of Rove/Romney.

Basically, it's the same people from Bush's campaign. The candidates are interchangeable. Rove should be in prison, but he's not.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:23 PM

17. If you liked GW Bush, you will love MR Money!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:23 PM

18. Laws mean nothing to Mitt after all he was a retroactive citizen of Massachusetts for 7 years.

Which allowed him to run for Governor as a resident. This too will be easy for him to dismiss. Rove also seems to have acquired plenty of legal immunity over the years.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:27 PM

19. Rules are for the peons...Mitt even wink winks blind trusts..

because his kind think they are special.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:28 PM

21. Romney to Federal Laws: "Kiss my ass"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:30 PM

23. Good that CNN is reporting this.

Nothing will come of it, but at least we have noted that there are still campaign laws that can and will be broken without penalty.

Our political system is in a shambles. Thank you SCOTUS. We are well fucked.

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Response to LiberalAndProud (Reply #23)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:35 PM

26. +1

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:34 PM

24. Pfff. Laws are for poor people.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:34 PM

25. Prosecute them, damn it!

I suppose there is no real penalty. Where are the justice department and FEC???

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:39 PM

27. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, kpete.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:39 PM

28. so

nothing will be done to anyone at that luncheon. but it's good to see how easy it is to ignore campaign law. rethugs KNOW they are above reproach and give less than a damn about legalities except when working it in their favor.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:42 PM

29. this is so frustrating

will someone please enforce the laws for rove? aargh i could scream

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:48 PM

30. They can do anything that want even if it's illegal.

Because they are Republicans. Any one else to tries this kind of crap gets put through the ringer and strung out to dry. They did get caught in Watergate scandal but that one slipped for the shits of it.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:50 PM

31. So since a law is being broken...

nothing is going to happen.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:04 PM

33. Hell, why bother with laws when you're a Reep.

Laws are only for Dems.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:19 PM

37. Laws....schmaws....

"Kiss my ass, America" Mitt Romney 2012

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:21 PM

38. I'm sure they'll get a sternly worded letter from the FEC. If that. nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:23 PM

40. Because Citizens United just wasn't enough. nt

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:35 PM

42. Justice dept.

Will do nothing because since its a political opposition committing the alleged crime if they were to persue it's would be seen as politically motivated and thus hurt their
image

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Response to Stuckinohio (Reply #42)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:52 PM

48. Justice dept, the fed, the AG

Will do nothing because since its a political opposition committing the alleged crime if they were to persue it's would be seen as politically motivated and thus hurt their
image

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Response to Stuckinohio (Reply #48)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:33 PM

58. As if when they 'decide' not to persue it's not seen as politically motivated...

and does not hurt their image... (in some way).

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:36 PM

43. Looks like CNN is writing off Romney, too. Remember how many election laws Rove broke

for W. and how little MSM attention it got?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:40 PM

44. Lying, Cheating, and Stealing.

So what's new?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:43 PM

45. Rove and Gillespie have a long history of working together

Here's a PBS interview with Gillespie from 2005:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/architect/interviews/gillespie.html

In 2000, I was working for Congressman John Kasich, who was the chairman of the House Budget Committee. He was considering running for president, but decided against it. ... It was at that time that I started to talk to the folks in the Bush campaign in Austin. My wife had known Karl Rove. She's a political operative in her own right. ... She and Karl had worked on a campaign in Texas back in 1984. She introduced me to Karl, and he asked me to serve as an informal adviser to the Bush-Cheney campaign from Washington, which I did.

----

Gillespie first became known in 1994 as a principal drafter of Newt Gingrich's Contract with America. He became RNC director of communications during the 1996 election, then left to found a PR firm that was involved in dodgy campaign money-raising practices.

The Buying of the President 2004 says of Gillespie, ""He has also earned the loyalty and trust of White House political advisor Karl Rove and the Bush inner circle by doing some of the sensitive political work they can't be seen doing themselves. Gillespie reportedly helped to plant and 'spin' some negative news stories about Gore in the crucial weeks before the 2000 election, including accounts of pollution at Gore's Tennessee farm and an endorsement Gore received from a group of pornographers. He is believed to have helped to orchestrate the infamous 'penny-loafer protesters' riot of Republican Capitol Hill aides flown in by Representative Tom DeLay in Miami during the Florida recount. He has also helped the party as a fundraiser; for instance, he was involved in a GOP power and fundraising project called ROMP ('Retain Our Majority Program') run by GOP House leader Tom DeLay to funnel campaign cash to vulnerable Republican candidates, in Gillespie's case squeezing major bucks out of Washington's K Street corridor of lobbyists and lawyers."

Much of Gillespie's dodgy fundraising was designed to conceal the identity of corporate donors. In 2001, for example, he set up something called the 21st Century Energy Project to promote the Bush energy plan. Enron funneled $50,000 to it by way of Grover Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform, and Daimler-Chrysler contributed the same amount by way of Dick Armey's Citizens for a Sound Economy.

Gillespie then served as RNC chair during the 2003-04 election cycle, when he was particularly involved in promoting claims of "voter fraud" in response to Democratic charges that the GOP was engaging in voter suppression and intimidation.

So in the light of their past history together, any accusation that Gillespie and Rove are engaging in illegal circumvention of campaign finance laws is not even news. It's just what they do.

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Response to starroute (Reply #45)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:50 PM

47. What a list (and history) of shady operatives in that article...

and agree - circumventing campaign finance laws is nothing new to this group. It's standard operating procedure.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:54 PM

49. Guess he doesn't watch Colbert

Colbert and his lawyer demonstrated for us how to NOT COORDINATE months ago!

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #49)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 05:12 PM

51. And he used none other than Ham Rove himself.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:40 PM

55. Laws are for schmucks, peons, the little people.

If only we had an uncompromised Press in this Country ...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 08:56 PM

56. but he's a fascist(opposite of socialist) so it's ok!

right CNN?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:13 PM

57. ...but, it's his turn.

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Response to Peaceful Protester (Reply #57)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:57 PM

60. love the graphic :)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:52 PM

59. so, what is the possible punishment for this crime?

I know it is unlikely to come to that, but assume for a minute prosecution is going to happen and they are found guilty. What happens? A fine equivalent to a slap on the wrist? Dissolution of the involved PACs? Jail? What?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:05 AM

62. send in the feds...we are a nation of laws

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 06:38 AM

63. Is it really CO-ordinating, if Rove just issues marching orders to Romney's crew?

You don't think Romney or the crew of the S.S. Minnow actually get to make suggestions.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:25 AM

64. Typical Rove attitude...

Whatcha gonna do about it? As he LOL's all the way to the bank.

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Response to Gman (Reply #64)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:28 AM

65. No one will do a goddam thing

News like this gets people like us all in a lather, but no one else gives a fuck.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 09:43 AM

68. Those laws are not enforced for Republicans. n/t

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