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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:45 AM

 

'Vertigo' bumps 'Citizen Kane' from top spot in poll of best movies of all time

By Gael Fashingbauer Cooper, NBC News

"Citizen Kane" has long sat atop many critics' best movies of all time lists. Just like The Beatles for music or "The Great Gatsby" for books, it's become such a top-10-list fixture that it's hard to remember a time when its rank was questioned.

Until now. Orson Welles' 1941 classic has topped the Sight & Sound magazine poll for 50 years, but in the latest poll, Alfred Hitchcock's 1958 psychological thriller "Vertigo" took the No. 1 spot.

Whle Americans may not know the magazine, a monthly published by the British Film Institute, Roger Ebert has called its best-film poll "the only one most serious movie people take seriously." Movies are voted for by an international group of film experts.

http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/02/13073373-vertigo-bumps-citizen-kane-from-top-spot-in-poll-of-best-movies-of-all-time

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Reply 'Vertigo' bumps 'Citizen Kane' from top spot in poll of best movies of all time (Original post)
HarveyDarkey Aug 2012 OP
crimson77 Aug 2012 #1
Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2012 #15
Kolesar Aug 2012 #2
ananda Aug 2012 #3
X_Digger Aug 2012 #4
WI_DEM Aug 2012 #9
Johonny Aug 2012 #13
BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #12
byeya Aug 2012 #5
WI_DEM Aug 2012 #8
BOG PERSON Aug 2012 #10
KansDem Aug 2012 #16
NRaleighLiberal Aug 2012 #6
WI_DEM Aug 2012 #7
Marrah_G Aug 2012 #11
Marr Aug 2012 #14
longship Aug 2012 #17
Tom Ripley Aug 2012 #18

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:46 AM

1. Incorrect

 

Casablanca is the best film ever!

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Response to crimson77 (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:36 AM

15. I'm a young guy, but I've seen both.

Casablanca hands down.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:48 AM

2. I sure as hell didn't get "Citizen Kane"

It must have been an acting and directorial landmark when it was made. But by the time I started watching movies, acting and production was better in Steve Martin movies.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:48 AM

3. I like Vertigo fine..

.. but the best movie of all time?
I don't think so.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:52 AM

4. I always thought that those who praised citizen kane did so..

.. only because they thought it would make them look smart.

It's been the 'war and peace' of film for a long time (show how smart you are by praising it.)

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:04 AM

9. I like Welles' second film as director much more--The Magnificent Ambersons

even with the tacked on studio ending. It's a brilliant film and greatly acted by Agnes Moorehead as Aunt Fanny.

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #9)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

13. Nearly all his films are great. The Trial is unbelievably good.

particularly when you see how cheap he made it. Same can be said for Hitchcock. I don't think Vertigo is his best film, although since it is a film about film (it's about a person obsessed with fantasy and making someone into someone else) it isn't surprising film people love it.

The camera movement, mixing of long and short takes, and interplay of special effects in these movies is amazing.

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Response to X_Digger (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

12. sort of agree

not that Citizen Kane isnt an excellent movie , but its kind of a sacred cow now.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:55 AM

5. I read through the list of 50 and didn't find many that I would want to see again.

 

Vertigo # 1?
Billy Wilder?
Searchers?
Only one movie by Truffaut?
poor effort based on my movie viewing.

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Response to byeya (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:01 AM

8. Only one Wilder film on this list (Some Like it Hot) my own list would

include DOUBLE INDEMNITY & SUNSET BOULEVARD.



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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:05 AM

10. whattabout THE APARTMENT ?!?!

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:39 AM

16. Agreed...

Those two are staples in the KansDem household.

Joe Gillis: You're Norma Desmond. You used to be in silent pictures. You used to be big.
Norma Desmond: I *am* big. It's the *pictures* that got small.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:56 AM

6. I like Rear Window and North by Northwest better than either - Casablanca too.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:58 AM

7. Comedy is ignored as usual (with a few exceptions)--where is this film???

And, as usual, comedy is pretty much--with a few exceptions--ignored. My God, where is The Three Stooges, YOU NAZTY SPY??? the first Hollywood film that openly satarized Hitler!?



Vertigo the greatest film ever? Good picture, but greatest? No way.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:07 AM

11. I've never been a fan of old movies.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

14. Laurence of Arabia.

Vertigo was good, but not something I'd pop into a DVD player to watch again.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:51 AM

17. Watched it yesterday in honor of this

Also watched Rear Window and North By Northwest last night.

Although RW and NBNw are more entertaining than Vertigo, Vertigo is rated #1 for reasons other than shear entertainment value. It is a beautifully filmed movie, visually stunning. Bernard Herrmann's score is great. Edith Head's costumes are fantastic. The acting is all around top notch with Novak a standout. I don't see any reason why a movie like that shouldn't be the top flick.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:53 AM

18. Psycho and Strangers on a Train are better Hitchcock movies

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