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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:45 AM

HarveyDarkey (5,342 posts)

'Vertigo' bumps 'Citizen Kane' from top spot in poll of best movies of all time

By Gael Fashingbauer Cooper, NBC News

"Citizen Kane" has long sat atop many critics' best movies of all time lists. Just like The Beatles for music or "The Great Gatsby" for books, it's become such a top-10-list fixture that it's hard to remember a time when its rank was questioned.

Until now. Orson Welles' 1941 classic has topped the Sight & Sound magazine poll for 50 years, but in the latest poll, Alfred Hitchcock's 1958 psychological thriller "Vertigo" took the No. 1 spot.

Whle Americans may not know the magazine, a monthly published by the British Film Institute, Roger Ebert has called its best-film poll "the only one most serious movie people take seriously." Movies are voted for by an international group of film experts.

http://entertainment.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/02/13073373-vertigo-bumps-citizen-kane-from-top-spot-in-poll-of-best-movies-of-all-time

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'Vertigo' bumps 'Citizen Kane' from top spot in poll of best movies of all time (Original post)	HarveyDarkey	Aug 2012	OP
Incorrect	crimson77	Aug 2012	#1
I'm a young guy, but I've seen both.	Fantastic Anarchist	Aug 2012	#15
I sure as hell didn't get "Citizen Kane"	Kolesar	Aug 2012	#2
I like Vertigo fine..	ananda	Aug 2012	#3
I always thought that those who praised citizen kane did so..	X_Digger	Aug 2012	#4
I like Welles' second film as director much more--The Magnificent Ambersons	WI_DEM	Aug 2012	#9
Nearly all his films are great. The Trial is unbelievably good.	Johonny	Aug 2012	#13
sort of agree	BOG PERSON	Aug 2012	#12
I read through the list of 50 and didn't find many that I would want to see again.	byeya	Aug 2012	#5
Only one Wilder film on this list (Some Like it Hot) my own list would	WI_DEM	Aug 2012	#8
whattabout THE APARTMENT ?!?!	BOG PERSON	Aug 2012	#10
Agreed...	KansDem	Aug 2012	#16
I like Rear Window and North by Northwest better than either - Casablanca too.	NRaleighLiberal	Aug 2012	#6
Comedy is ignored as usual (with a few exceptions)--where is this film???	WI_DEM	Aug 2012	#7
I've never been a fan of old movies.	Marrah_G	Aug 2012	#11
Laurence of Arabia.	Marr	Aug 2012	#14
Watched it yesterday in honor of this	longship	Aug 2012	#17
Psycho and Strangers on a Train are better Hitchcock movies	Tom Ripley	Aug 2012	#18

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:46 AM

crimson77 (305 posts)

1. Incorrect

Casablanca is the best film ever!

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:36 AM

Fantastic Anarchist (2,335 posts)

15. I'm a young guy, but I've seen both.

Casablanca hands down.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:48 AM

Kolesar (29,300 posts)

2. I sure as hell didn't get "Citizen Kane"

It must have been an acting and directorial landmark when it was made. But by the time I started watching movies, acting and production was better in Steve Martin movies.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:48 AM

ananda (12,472 posts)

3. I like Vertigo fine..

.. but the best movie of all time?
I don't think so.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:52 AM

X_Digger (13,111 posts)

4. I always thought that those who praised citizen kane did so..

.. only because they thought it would make them look smart.

It's been the 'war and peace' of film for a long time (show how smart you are by praising it.)

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:04 AM

WI_DEM (32,522 posts)

9. I like Welles' second film as director much more--The Magnificent Ambersons

even with the tacked on studio ending. It's a brilliant film and greatly acted by Agnes Moorehead as Aunt Fanny.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

Johonny (11,068 posts)

13. Nearly all his films are great. The Trial is unbelievably good.

particularly when you see how cheap he made it. Same can be said for Hitchcock. I don't think Vertigo is his best film, although since it is a film about film (it's about a person obsessed with fantasy and making someone into someone else) it isn't surprising film people love it.

The camera movement, mixing of long and short takes, and interplay of special effects in these movies is amazing.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

BOG PERSON (2,670 posts)

12. sort of agree

not that Citizen Kane isnt an excellent movie , but its kind of a sacred cow now.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:55 AM

byeya (1,900 posts)

5. I read through the list of 50 and didn't find many that I would want to see again.

Vertigo # 1?
Billy Wilder?
Searchers?
Only one movie by Truffaut?
poor effort based on my movie viewing.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:01 AM

WI_DEM (32,522 posts)

8. Only one Wilder film on this list (Some Like it Hot) my own list would

include DOUBLE INDEMNITY & SUNSET BOULEVARD.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:05 AM

BOG PERSON (2,670 posts)

10. whattabout THE APARTMENT ?!?!

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:39 AM

KansDem (24,312 posts)

16. Agreed...

Those two are staples in the KansDem household.

Joe Gillis: You're Norma Desmond. You used to be in silent pictures. You used to be big.
Norma Desmond: I *am* big. It's the *pictures* that got small.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:56 AM

NRaleighLiberal (28,568 posts)

6. I like Rear Window and North by Northwest better than either - Casablanca too.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:58 AM

WI_DEM (32,522 posts)

7. Comedy is ignored as usual (with a few exceptions)--where is this film???

And, as usual, comedy is pretty much--with a few exceptions--ignored. My God, where is The Three Stooges, YOU NAZTY SPY??? the first Hollywood film that openly satarized Hitler!?

Vertigo the greatest film ever? Good picture, but greatest? No way.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:07 AM

Marrah_G (22,370 posts)

11. I've never been a fan of old movies.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

Marr (13,639 posts)

14. Laurence of Arabia.

Vertigo was good, but not something I'd pop into a DVD player to watch again.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:51 AM

longship (17,569 posts)

17. Watched it yesterday in honor of this

Also watched Rear Window and North By Northwest last night.

Although RW and NBNw are more entertaining than Vertigo, Vertigo is rated #1 for reasons other than shear entertainment value. It is a beautifully filmed movie, visually stunning. Bernard Herrmann's score is great. Edith Head's costumes are fantastic. The acting is all around top notch with Novak a standout. I don't see any reason why a movie like that shouldn't be the top flick.

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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:53 AM

Tom Ripley (2,637 posts)

18. Psycho and Strangers on a Train are better Hitchcock movies

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