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Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:16 AM

Reid doubles down on Romney tax chrage

Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV) not only stuck by his story of a Bain Capital investor claiming Mitt Romney paid no taxes at all for 10 years, he broadened it in an interview with the Las Vegas Review-Journal and other reporters.

Said Reid: "I am not basing this on some figment of my imagination. I have had a number of people tell me that."

When asked to identify his sources, Reid declined: "No, that's the best you're going to get from me. I don't think the burden should be on me. The burden should be on him. He's the one I've alleged has not paid any taxes. Why didn't he release his tax returns?"

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/08/02/reid_doubles_down_on_romney_tax_charge.html

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Reply Reid doubles down on Romney tax chrage (Original post)
WI_DEM Aug 2012 OP
Marrah_G Aug 2012 #1
morningfog Aug 2012 #2
randome Aug 2012 #6
HangOnKids Aug 2012 #7
krawhitham Aug 2012 #12
zeemike Aug 2012 #14
1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #27
zeemike Aug 2012 #29
localroger Aug 2012 #4
1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #28
The Magistrate Aug 2012 #5
Uncle Joe Aug 2012 #10
Plucketeer Aug 2012 #35
hifiguy Aug 2012 #22
tblue Aug 2012 #3
Vox Moi Aug 2012 #8
eShirl Aug 2012 #16
ljm2002 Aug 2012 #18
LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #21
DallasNE Aug 2012 #25
SemperEadem Aug 2012 #31
emulatorloo Aug 2012 #33
bayareaboy Aug 2012 #9
RBInMaine Aug 2012 #11
The Wizard Aug 2012 #13
valerief Aug 2012 #15
hamsterjill Aug 2012 #17
LiberalAndProud Aug 2012 #19
Bucky Aug 2012 #20
Kalidurga Aug 2012 #23
DallasNE Aug 2012 #24
HangOnKids Aug 2012 #26
magnifisense Aug 2012 #30
Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2012 #32
magnifisense Aug 2012 #34

Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:05 AM

1. Reid seems far to cautious a man to say this if he thought it wasn't true

Especially since if it wasn't true it could easily be proven.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:10 AM

2. Even if it is only partially true, it is boxing Mittens in.

Reid knows what he's doing and knows what the returns show.

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Response to morningfog (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:04 AM

6. The 'returns' on Reid's conjecture are pretty good, too!

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Response to morningfog (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:09 AM

7. Reid Was A Former Boxer

Nicely done!

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Response to HangOnKids (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:01 PM

12. Rope-a-dope

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Response to krawhitham (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:09 PM

14. No no...that was an uppercut.to the jaw.

And I bet it smarts.

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Response to zeemike (Reply #14)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:22 PM

27. Nope ...

Not an uppercut ... more like a body blow. Upper cuts are knock-out punches; body shots are to set up the upper-cut.

("Bar ... B ... Cue, give me more of them ribs!")

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:28 PM

29. Good point.

Body blow it is.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:54 AM

4. Reid has covered himself carefully

All he's said is that he heard some hearsay and he'd like to know whether it's true. Reid obviously can't clear up that truth thing himself. But Romney could

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Response to localroger (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:24 PM

28. It would also ...

Set, a responsible media, on the trail to talk with Bain Investors.

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:56 AM

5. I Agree, Ma'am: Makes Him the Ideal Fella For This Shiv-Work, Since Most Everyone Will Think As You

"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."

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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #5)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:39 AM

10. That should be on a bumpersticker, The Magistrate.



"Romney loves America like a tick loves a dog."



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Response to The Magistrate (Reply #5)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:13 PM

35. Indeed!

That would make a GREAT bumper sticker or lawn sign!

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:05 PM

22. Yep. Harry is playing this with the cool assurance of a poker player

who just drew the fourth ace.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:54 AM

3. That's my assumption and I'm sticking to it.

Reid would not out and out lie. And what other conclusion can we draw from Mitt's refusing to show his taxes? Jerk didn't pay his fair share and he can't justify that in the court of public opinion.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:35 AM

8. Is it 'Uranium from Africa' or does Reid know something?

Bush cited British Intelligence for his assertion about Saddam's quest for yellowcake in order to press the point without being responsible for the ultimate truth (or falsehood) of the matter.
If Reid is doing the same thing then it's a cheap trick that works but I don't want my elected officials using such tricks against each other because it makes it more likely that they'll use them against us.
I'd like to think that Reid has good reasons to think this is true and if so, it's a strategy that works.
Either way, Mitt is in a box on this. I hope that the rest of us are not in it as well.

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Response to Vox Moi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:15 PM

16. huh?

not following your line of reasoning here

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Response to Vox Moi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:58 PM

18. Well the stakes are a bit different here...

...while in one case you had a president who was bound determined to careen into a war and would do anything to get us into it, vs. a politician who wants to leverage an issue (Mitt not revealing his tax returns) to his own party's political advantage.

Second, the yellow cake thing was indeed an entire fabrication, created by the Bush administration for a certain purpose, which purpose it served nicely. Whereas, the Mitt tax thing is an issue of Mitt's own making, by his refusal to release his returns. Reid is just using the issue, and using it very well I might add.

In any case, as others have pointed out, Harry Reid is typically a very cautious man. For that reason, it seems unlikely he would make this up. It's a pretty serious charge (not serious legally, but politically) and is a very definite thing. Not, "Oh, I've been told he has something to hide", but rather specifically "I've been told he paid no taxes in those years".

My gut says to go with Harry on this one.

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Response to Vox Moi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:05 PM

21. There is a reason Romney doesn't want to show us his tax returns.

Refusing to do so invites conjecture. Period. Yellow cake my ass.

Welcome to DU.

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Response to Vox Moi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:13 PM

25. Huge Difference

When Bush made that claim internal intelligence was saying the supporting document was a fake. They later admitted that the claim should not have been left in the speech.

Here Reid is not making an absolute claim because none of his sources from Bain have said they saw Romney's tax returns but that the claim of Romney not paying taxes for 10 years was widely circulated at the time. Translation: Romney boasted to Bain insiders that he paid no federal income taxes for several years.

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Response to Vox Moi (Reply #8)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 04:53 PM

31. oh. my. god.

that takes the cake.

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Response to Vox Moi (Reply #8)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 10:11 AM

33. Republicans lie, Reid does not. N/T

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:37 AM

9. The difference to me ...


Is that I trust Harry Reid, for many reasons, especially because he has never done this before. He has no record of anything like this.

You have to figure that LDS ties did not bind his statement. so either Harry figures that it is a big thing.

I trust Harry Reid and I certainly do not trust Mittens

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 11:52 AM

11. GIVE EM HELL HARRY ! MITT CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF !

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:05 PM

13. All Reid did was

Give Rmoney the Pox News treatment with the all purpose qualifier "some people say." He wasn't under oath and the Pox qualifier makes it OK.
Rove has probably advised Rmoney to remain silent on the subject.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:14 PM

15. Good for Reid. nt

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:17 PM

17. I like what Harry is doing!

And I applaud him for NOT backing down. Democrats need to learn from his example in this particular instance.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:02 PM

19. It's got a good beat and you can dance to it.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:03 PM

20. It's fair baiting, as far as politics are concerned. But Reid's being pretty clumsy about this.

This should be handled by super pacs and smeared all over the swing states.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:33 PM

23. I don't think so...

Romney hides the crap he says by saying he didn't say it one of his proxies did, either an aide or his wife. Or, he will say the British press is flat out lying even if they have no motive for doing so. Reid is doing what anyone who isn't a coward will do, he is flat out saying what he has heard. Reid is calling Romney out without the shield of a proxy.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:50 PM

24. This Is Serious And Romney Knows It

That is why today he added a top notch PR person to his team. Her first task will be the Bain issue but that is also tied to the tax issue so I'm quite sure she will be tasked with taking on that as well.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/romney-taps-paulson-fannie-mae-vet-for-bain-rehab

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #24)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:20 PM

26. Romney Has Finally Figured Out That He Is NOT Above Reproach

The dumb shit never thought Obama and his team would dare to peak under his skirt so to speak. He is a fucking idiot of extreme proportions. His new PR hack has a closet full of skeletons as well. This should be an interesting month.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 03:28 PM

30. As I responded to another member about this story, Harry Reid is showing me something I haven't seen

I haven't seen before.

Go, Harry, Go!

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 08:09 AM

32. OMG....did you read the "Reader Comments" on this. Hysterical: Wortherism


WADE_NYC • a day ago
C'mon, Mitt, show us your 'worth-certificates.'
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Mark_in_VA • a day ago • parent −
And none of those photo-shopped 1040 covers. We want the real, long-form certs, hand-delivered to every American's door for him or her to inspect for authenticity.
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Phineas_T_Filibuster • a day ago • parent
Damn you worthers, always trying to stir up some shit.
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Mark_in_VA • a day ago • parent
Michael Moore sent a team of investigators to the Cayman Islands, and you wouldn't believe what they turned up. They intend to release their evidence immediately after Donald Trump's investigators reveal their devastating findings in Hawaii.
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Lou McErlean • a day ago • parent
Mark_in_VA: Before or after 11/6?
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MVH1 • a day ago • parent
I'd settle for seeing it published everywhere.
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alrudder • a day ago • parent
Wortherism
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neonnautilus • a day ago • parent
good one!
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dratthecat • a day ago
Smoke him out, Harry, smoke him out of his spider hole, tax returns clutched in his hands.
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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 07:31 PM

34. So now we have Romney saying to Reid, "Put up or shut up."

I think Romney fails to see it is HE who needs to put up or shut up. If you paid "a lot of taxes" as you claimed this morning, let's see the returns.

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