Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:33 PM

HarveyDarkey (5,398 posts)

Fox News gets the gold medal for "most misleading bar graph depicting a 4% tax increase" ever.

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14 replies	Author	Time	Post
Fox News gets the gold medal for "most misleading bar graph depicting a 4% tax increase" ever. (Original post)	HarveyDarkey	Aug 2012	OP
A repuke "friend" of mine on FB is questioning this,	crim son	Aug 2012	#1
hm, the screenshot has 8:01p in the lower right hand corner, and some closing market prices...	nilram	Aug 2012	#6
Yeah, I can't find it.	crim son	Aug 2012	#13
You can try this - its from MediaMatters.	Ruby the Liberal	Aug 2012	#8
they need to be dismantled. ministry of republican propaganda.	spanone	Aug 2012	#2
We deceive - You believe.	jillan	Aug 2012	#3
+1000	part man all 86	Aug 2012	#5
You just know that Steve Ducy uses a similar technique to prove that he	JoePhilly	Aug 2012	#4
The question is,	MindMover	Aug 2012	#7
Three groups actually.......	Grassy Knoll	Aug 2012	#9
Thanks for the ROFL!	DCKit	Aug 2012	#10
The problem is....	Wounded Bear	Aug 2012	#11
THIS HURTS MUH FREEEE DUMMMM!!!	EnviroBat	Aug 2012	#12
Here's something else Faux won't offer up	Major Nikon	Aug 2012	#14

Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:47 PM

crim son (26,494 posts)

1. A repuke "friend" of mine on FB is questioning this,

saying Fox never put up such a graph. Any idea where I can find the original broadcast or some proof it's real? I mean, something that would convince this woman who thinks of herself as "reasonable."

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Response to crim son (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:54 PM

nilram (1,286 posts)

6. hm, the screenshot has 8:01p in the lower right hand corner, and some closing market prices...

So I'm thinking it was July 31st, 2012. Per Yahoo Finance,

S&P500 closed at 1379.32
DJIA closed at 13008.68.

Looking at foxnews.com, O'Reilly himself airs at the 8pm hour -- eastern time. Dunno how to find specific video, though.

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Response to nilram (Reply #6)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:06 PM

crim son (26,494 posts)

13. Yeah, I can't find it.

I just want to shut this person up so bad! Heh.

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Response to crim son (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:07 AM

Ruby the Liberal (23,509 posts)

8. You can try this - its from MediaMatters.

Last edited Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:08 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

They put up a comparison next to it:

http://twitpic.com/ae795e

Edit - full article: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2012/07/31/dishonest-fox-chart-bush-tax-cut-edition/189046

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:49 PM

spanone (72,122 posts)

2. they need to be dismantled. ministry of republican propaganda.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:52 PM

jillan (31,392 posts)

3. We deceive - You believe.

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Response to jillan (Reply #3)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:24 PM

part man all 86 (367 posts)

5. +1000

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:21 PM

JoePhilly (15,997 posts)

4. You just know that Steve Ducy uses a similar technique to prove that he

has a large "member".

Very thick bars, and a truncated measurement scale.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:04 AM

MindMover (2,798 posts)

7. The question is,

What is the intelligence of someone that looks at this crap and then believes it ...?

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Response to MindMover (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 01:08 AM

Grassy Knoll (4,273 posts)

9. Three groups actually.......

1) Fox news Viewers
2) Idiots who love lies about Obama
3) Fox News Viewers

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:24 AM

DCKit (18,302 posts)

10. Thanks for the ROFL!

I'm so gonna be watching FNC on December 20th... guaranteed to be apocalyptic smash-up.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 09:28 AM

Wounded Bear (2,880 posts)

11. The problem is....

most automated graphing programs will do that. They are typically programmed to accentuate the differences, not portray true relationships.

It is up to the presenter to reformat the graph in a way that displays the info accurately, or as in this case, present it in a way that influences one's audience.

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:21 AM

EnviroBat (5,259 posts)

12. THIS HURTS MUH FREEEE DUMMMM!!!

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Response to HarveyDarkey (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 12:20 PM

Major Nikon (9,708 posts)

14. Here's something else Faux won't offer up

This is only a 4% increase on income that exceeds $388K.

So let's say someone made $400K. The effect of an additional 39.6% tax bracket would only be 4% on $12,000 worth of income, or $480. This really only affects people who have millions of dollars in yearly income.

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