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Texasgal

(17,038 posts)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 07:35 PM Aug 2012

Chick fil a facts

Seen on FB:

Did you enjoy your fried chicken sandwich today? Did you know that Chick-fil-A supports The Family Research Council, which spent $25,000 to lobby congress in support of the "Kill the Gays" bill in Uganda. Yep. It's not just chicken and one man's right to say nasty things about gays getting married. It's about corporations who help support the murder of people for being gay.

The Kill the Gays bill seeks to institute a death penalty for gays. Why would any Christian want to be a part of this?






http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2010/06/christian-love-family-research-council.html

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Chick fil a facts (Original Post) Texasgal Aug 2012 OP
Some mighty f-ing BIG GOVERNMENT there when it can KILL you for your sexual identity!!! nt patrice Aug 2012 #1
Fuck Chick-fil-A-Holes. NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #2
duzy tomm2thumbs Aug 2012 #9
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #28
One and done. DURHAM D Aug 2012 #29
Du rec. Nt xchrom Aug 2012 #3
Chick-Fil-A's Charitable Arm Gave Nearly $2 Million To Anti-Gay Groups In 2010 NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #4
I'll say it again. 12ZTR Aug 2012 #5
why bemused Aug 2012 #20
"So much for free speech" sufrommich Aug 2012 #21
Boycotting bigoted companies is also exercising our right to free speech Son of Gob Aug 2012 #22
Yes, he is. And we are using our money to support ours. yewberry Aug 2012 #24
bah hahaha. totally contradictive while being a hypocrite. he uses his money for beliefs seabeyond Aug 2012 #27
Bemused has left the building (although he/she sufrommich Aug 2012 #30
They are both gone... NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #32
No one is taking away his right to free speech Marrah_G Aug 2012 #38
When at least four of those entities are known and listed hate groups HillWilliam Aug 2012 #39
Did you read about killing people? nadinbrzezinski Aug 2012 #41
Groups and individuals supporting Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day: NYC_SKP Aug 2012 #6
here's a few more to add to the list: neo nazis... IcyPeas Aug 2012 #11
why is there a half mile line of cars at chicfila? southmost Aug 2012 #7
it's chick fil a appreciation day. Texasgal Aug 2012 #8
Plenty to complain about without making stuff up. FBaggins Aug 2012 #10
I may be guilty of spreading Texasgal Aug 2012 #12
Here's what I found FBaggins Aug 2012 #13
Yes, and it came from a good source too. Texasgal Aug 2012 #14
Another decent link Igel Aug 2012 #37
American Taliban. blkmusclmachine Aug 2012 #15
+1 Faygo Kid Aug 2012 #16
Sometimes our religious fundamentalists are no better than the ones we're fighting. Initech Aug 2012 #18
Thank you for posting this. beyurslf Aug 2012 #17
someone shove a mic in Dick Cheney's face next time he has the EmeraldCityGrl Aug 2012 #19
You paid taxes to a government that used drones to kill innocent people. Which is worse? Egalitariat Aug 2012 #23
I can chose to not spend money at a restaurant that donates millions to anti-gay fights uppityperson Aug 2012 #26
Are you serious? Texasgal Aug 2012 #31
I think you posted under the wrong post. I have no opinion on what you choose to boycott. Egalitariat Aug 2012 #33
No, it wasn't the wrong post. Texasgal Aug 2012 #34
And it is our duty to protest ElbarDee Aug 2012 #35
Because thy don't know... Historyprof77132 Aug 2012 #25
WinShape---founded by Cathy in 1984----some really horrible things they have done!!! young_at_heart Aug 2012 #36
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #40
I wonder how many pets read that on Facebook, LOL just1voice Aug 2012 #42

Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #2)

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. Chick-Fil-A's Charitable Arm Gave Nearly $2 Million To Anti-Gay Groups In 2010
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 07:49 PM
Aug 2012
Chick-Fil-A's Charitable Arm Gave Nearly $2 Million To Anti-Gay Groups In 2010

WinShape Is Chick-Fil-A's Charitable Arm. The WinShape Foundation is Chick-fil-A's charitable arm, created by Chick-fil-A founder and chairman S. Truett Cathy in 1984. WinShape has received a substantial amount of funding from Chick-fil-A: in 2010 alone, WinShape received $8,067,161 from Chick-fil-A Inc. [WinShape 2010, Publicly Available IRS 990 Form via Foundation Center, accessed 6/27/12]

WinShape Gave Over $1.9 Million To Anti-Gay Groups. In 2010, WinShape donated $1,974,380 to a number of anti-gay groups:

Marriage & Family Foundation: $1,188,380
Fellowship Of Christian Athletes: $480,000
National Christian Foundation: $247,500
New Mexico Christian Foundation: $54,000
Exodus International: $1,000
Family Research Council: $1,000
Georgia Family Council: $2,500

http://equalitymatters.org/factcheck/201207020001

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
21. "So much for free speech"
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:51 PM
Aug 2012

What do you mean? Who's arguing that he should be arrested? The KKK used their money to support their beliefs too, what's your point?

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
22. Boycotting bigoted companies is also exercising our right to free speech
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:55 PM
Aug 2012

Take that info back to your cave and tell your buddies.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
24. Yes, he is. And we are using our money to support ours.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:08 PM
Aug 2012

If money is speech, he gets his free speech, and we get ours. Same deal.

Where's your problem with this?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
27. bah hahaha. totally contradictive while being a hypocrite. he uses his money for beliefs
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:27 PM
Aug 2012

but, you have issue with those that do the same, if it counters and argue it is stopping his free speech, by stopping ours. what a fuckin hoot.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
30. Bemused has left the building (although he/she
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:33 PM
Aug 2012

seems to be making another appearence in this thread). See Bobc1956

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
38. No one is taking away his right to free speech
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 10:21 AM
Aug 2012

But speech has consequences. If you own a business that relies on the public's willingness to buy your crap, perhaps spouting your hatred of a large group of Americans to an even larger group of American that support them, is a bad business decision.

When he is arrested or penalized by the government for what he is saying, THEN you can complain about free speech.

Until that day.....it's just capitalism! Free market and all that!

HillWilliam

(3,310 posts)
39. When at least four of those entities are known and listed hate groups
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:24 PM
Aug 2012

Chick-Fil-A's participation ceases to be "free speech" and crosses the line into supporting acts of terror.

Nuff said.

Enjoy your (short) stay.

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
6. Groups and individuals supporting Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day:
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:00 PM
Aug 2012
COMPANY FACTS
Chick-fil-A is a family owned and operated company.
It has 1,615 stores in 39 states
2011 sales were $4.1 billion.

Groups and individuals supporting Chick-Fil-A Appreciation Day

• International Christian Concern, charity foundation
• Focus on the Family’s CitizenLink
• Wisconsin Family Action
• George Faught, OK Congressional candidate
• Rick Santorum, former US Senator from PA, and his Patriot Voices organization
• Rich Hudson, NC Congressional candidate
• Citizens United
• Wallbuilders, an evangelical Christian American history education organization
• Rep. Mick Mulvaney, SC 5th District , US Congress (R)
• Liberty Counsel, legal advocacy organization dedicated to religious freedom
• Project 21 – Conservative public policy group of African-Americans
• Denison Forum on Truth and Culture – Evangelical outreach of Dallas pastor Jim Denison
• Bob Vander Plaatz and The Family Leader, former IA gov candidate
• Concerned Women of America, nation’s largest women’s advocacy group
• Dave Weldon, former Congressman and candidate for US Senate from FL
• Family Research Council
• Rep Jeff Duncan, SC 3rd District, US Congress (R)
• CURE, the Center for Urban Renewal and Education
• Dan Patrick, TX State Senator
• Rev. Billy Graham
• First Baptist Church of Dallas, Rev. Robert Jeffress
• Sarah Palin, former AK gov and former VP nominee

Related Stories
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Chick-fil-A supporters hold nationwide appreciation day after furor over marriage comments
Chicago church leaders roast Rahm Emanuel over Chick-fil-A stance

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FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
10. Plenty to complain about without making stuff up.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:21 PM
Aug 2012

The story was corrected over two years ago. Nobody lobbied in favor of the legislation (and the vote was overwhelming)... They lobbied to remove "whereas" language that claimed that lgbt rights were universally accepted around the world.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
13. Here's what I found
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:01 PM
Aug 2012
http://www.queerty.com/frc-didnt-lobby-congress-to-nix-uganda-resolution-just-to-make-sure-it-included-hateful-rhetoric-20100607/

We can fairly question what "factual" changes they wanted to make, but it would be a huge reach to try to claim that they were lobbying congress to NOT condemn the law itself.

But it's not your fault... that's the kind of thing you find on facebook, right?

Texasgal

(17,038 posts)
14. Yes, and it came from a good source too.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:04 PM
Aug 2012

I certainly do not want to be known as someone who spreads false info.

Igel

(35,274 posts)
37. Another decent link
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 02:25 AM
Aug 2012
http://www.scribd.com/doc/32526785/frclobbyingreport

It contains the entirety of that particular lobbying report.

A lot of the bills were gay-related. A few were HCERA related (that would be the financial side of the PPACA). Some involved gambling.

The source you linked to screamed "there's something wrong". The "report" is in three pieces, and given how long it is it should have been on one page. Why scan 3 different image files for one page?

Turns out the report's 20 pages long, and these are bits from it put together to look like one page. Even without knowing why they lobbied for this one resolution, you'd have to suspect that the amount of lobbying for it was small. (And more was probably spent on other activities.)

EmeraldCityGrl

(4,310 posts)
19. someone shove a mic in Dick Cheney's face next time he has the
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:39 PM
Aug 2012

balls to show up on one of those interviews and ask him if he supports
Chick Shit and let's hear what he has to say now that he has a grandchild
from his lesbian daughter and her wife. I'm so sick of these hypocrites

It's only gonna get worse. With droughts due to climate change, the economy
and job problems due to an inept congress, people are gonna cling tighter and
tighter to their god and their guns. I look at these people in line on the news
and their all just about the same color, same age range. I can't wait for this
self absorbed generation to age and disappear off the planet even though it's
the same as mine.

 

Egalitariat

(1,631 posts)
23. You paid taxes to a government that used drones to kill innocent people. Which is worse?
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:59 PM
Aug 2012

Both statements can probably be proven "factual". But neither represents what a normal person would call truth.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
26. I can chose to not spend money at a restaurant that donates millions to anti-gay fights
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:11 PM
Aug 2012

Why does there have to be the "which is worse" thing about this? You approve of giving money to companies that donate heavily to anti-gay legislation. I don't.

I don't approve of my tax dollars being spent on a lot of things, but must pay my taxes or be fined. I can easily chose to not give money to anti-gay legislation supporters.

ElbarDee

(61 posts)
35. And it is our duty to protest
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:44 PM
Aug 2012

the actions of anyone or anything that is evil.

I am against the murder by Americans of innocent Peoples by remote control, by bombs, rifles, mines, bayonets, swords, sticks, stones, and by bigotry in action, thought or deed.

WE MUST take a stand for good, or evil will triumph.

Be it chicken or drones.

Historyprof77132

(31 posts)
25. Because thy don't know...
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:10 PM
Aug 2012

They aren't curious enough to find out. They submit to a higher authority (usually in the form of a pastor speaking for God) and don't question anything. They are told that dissgreement with them is their "Christ-like" persecution foretold in the Bible. They are simply mindless robots that throw out any evidence that does not conform to their world.

young_at_heart

(3,763 posts)
36. WinShape---founded by Cathy in 1984----some really horrible things they have done!!!
Thu Aug 2, 2012, 12:15 AM
Aug 2012

The WinShape Foundation is an American charitable endeavor of the fast-food restaurant chain Chick-fil-A and its founder Truett Cathy and his family. Some of the groups the corporation has contributed to through WinShape, the side company created in 1984 for corporate giving, include organizations that not only actively work to end marriage equality, but also groups that attempt to "convert" gay people and one that's considered a "hate group" by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

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