Chick-Fil-a WTF is going on.

makes as much sense as a bunny laying and hiding colored eggs

It's only the ones hide their bigotry behind a distorted, hateful version of christianity who are eating there.

don't hate- or judge people as less than themselves, based on what sex they are or who they love.

Not as I understand "christ"

I was told that hundreds of yeas ago, the Catholics adopted this practice in order to help out the seafood industy.

for their triple bypass.

(high school classmates) are all over this. They think it's wonderful.

Gaaahhhh............I'm so glad I left that state in my rearview mirror.



No Chick Fil-A's in Anchorage.

by saying that Democrats propose a GOVERNMENT BAN on anti-gay businesses.

True FB story.

for a governmment ban on anti-gay businesses, only BOYCOTTS which is the people's form of corporate personhood.

should back out of their plans to open in boston and that there is no place for chick fil a in boston. he is a democrat. he is in government. he is (trying to) using the power of his office to stop a business from operating in boston. so, really, what they are saying is, in effect, true. it may not be from the DNC...but to say that a democrat is doing this is factually correct...he didn't just call for boycotts...or did you miss that whole letter thing?

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sarcasm thingee

because they DID say the DNC wants and also ALL democrats...

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You also need to know the difference between our mayor, who will say what he thinks, who doesn't like bigots, who has been a local institution in our city for decades...and a national political outfit.

One of these things is NOT like the other.

Sheesh. Ever heard of freedom of speech? Even Menino has the right to say what he thinks--unless you think it should be reserved ONLY for whining, anti-gay bigots:

to deny a business from operating in Boston because they do not believe as he does. and this is the exact letter i was referencing so you are pretty much proving my point...

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It does not say that.

Read it again.

The letter is an expression of disgust and a fair warning.

you know what...it's just not worth it. the mayor went too far. he opened himself and boston up to lawsuits if any 'problems' should arise for the opening of that Chick-fil-a. should there have been a boycott? should there BE a boycott? sure! hell yeah! but all this publicity is backfiring...and it's only going to get worse.

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Please. He was elected because he was a Democrat. He was elected to uphold "silly little unimportant things" like equal rights, equal access, non-discrimination policies, etc. He has very good legal advisors and I'm quite sure every word, every phrase and every paragraph of that letter got the scrutiny of a lawyer on staff.

He didn't open himself up to any "problems" so stuff that "Oh, NO! Don't Say Anything In Case The Bigots Get Mad!" concern where the sun don't shine. He expressed an opinion that is entirely consonant with the law of the land and the laws of the State of Massachusetts. He didn't "prohibit" a damn thing. And since when might "boycotts" bring lawsuits? That's as likely as the stork bringing babies. Why didn't anyone sue Martin Luther King, if that sort of thing followed?

And if it's "only going to get worse," well good. We'll "smoke 'em outta their holes" as Dumbya would say. Make people throw down against equality and tolerance--and live, down the road, to regret it. Appeasement on this matter is NOT a strategy, unless you're talking about a recipe for retreat.

Good grief....the "Both Sides Now" is thick up in here! What website is this?

A little travelling music:

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he made a clear statement as mayor (the chief executive of a city) warning/threatening a company to not dare try to open a business in his city because they believe differently and support organizations that fight for those beliefs. those beliefs may be wrong and may be bigoted (they ARE, but I am trying to make a point) but he has no right to warn/threaten anyone or any company for those differing beliefs. hell, here in redstate, usa, we have the KKK trying to adopt a highway...the state said no...and there is now a pending lawsuit over their RIGHT to adopt said highway. missouri lost this same battle...

i have not said one thing about disagreeing with boycotts carried out by private citizens...i don't know where you getting that. i think people should spend their money how and when and in support of whatever they want and i gladly support their right to NOT spend money in the same respect.

i think several prominent democrats have overreached...and i think it will backfire. but i guess trying to express that opinion here gets you a 'shove it'...

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OnEdit: adding the words : 'disagreeing with' in first sentence of second para

And that includes Mayors of predominantly Democratic cities who have a real problem with bigoted assholes and who speak for their constituencies in unequivocal fashion.

then so be it...

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seriously my rw fb "friends" have been posting pictures of themselves buying the stuff today.

Makes me sad to live among bigots.

bigots eat fried chicken, they don't last as long. Enjoy the meal.

There's a chickfila on my way home from work and there's no way to avoid it! And I'm in Texas. Man, I really dislike these people.

My condolences. As I said elsewhere on this thread, my Texas Facebook "friends" are absolutely giddy with delight over this.

Christ this is boring and stupid. Serially.

And I didn't get any bigots a present. Boo Hoo.

You couldn't pay me to eat at a Chick-fil-a. Shame on them. Haters gotta hate, I guess.

That someone can capitalize on it shouldn't surprise people.

At the same time, I do believe in karma, and I wouldn't send out hate - it's destructive energy that only hurts those who harbor it, in the long run.

watch their selfish hate-filled over-gorged hearts
explode woofing down those grease sandwiches.

bye bye.

the rest of the world of how diverse and open we are. True, not as bad as some, but we could do far better.

+1000.

still has it ...

At the same time, consider this:

D.W. Griffith filmed the racist "Birth of a Nation" - and then followed that up with the anti-racist "Intolerance".

Not sure what the follow-up here would be, but I'm sure it will be fun to watch.

on homosexuality. Diplomats, chief executives, many US media persons with an international audience, activists, scientists and researchers, athletes, exchange students... (The one notable exception I can think of :Christian fundie missionaries in places like Uganda.) If you consider the people involved in forming and shaping global perceptions of gay rights in America, you realize that they are quite unrepresentative.

The vast hate-filled, homophobic, Christian supremacist apparatus is just not exposed to the outside world, nor does it communicate much with the world at large. This might be one reason why European intellectuals and media are so silent about large scale homophobia in America.

I wonder what happened during the Civil Rights Era. Did embarrassed State Department diplomats mutter something about decent Americans wanting racial equality but nasty Southern troglodytes getting in the way? Would that be "painting an illusion" to the world?

wanted his homophobia amended into the constitution.

It is amazing just how many new DU members that have recently joined that are bringing us the Chick-ful-of-hate updates today. My, oh, my.

Welcome to DU. Enjoy your stay.

And to all you haters, have an extra order of fries. I hear the "oil" they use to fry is very high in trans-fats. Enjoy!

wow the whole world seems to be eating chick-fil-a today! what's going on? i've never seen so many people. what's it all about?

pretty transparent actually

Guess what it was??

Interesting opinion piece:

Mike Huckabee promotes chicken with a side order of bigotry






http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2012/07/31/john-moore-mike-huckabee-promotes-chicken-with-a-side-order-of-bigotry/

In the long run, one day of profits will more often than not, lose to brand name promoting bigotry...

Shit I didn't know there were that many franchises in KC, or is there just one road?

I got stuck outside of three malls with them. I can't beleive how screwed up this deal is today. Its wrong to tie up everybody like this. Chik fil a needs to be fined for blocking traffic.

Wow KC has come a long ways since the last time I was there, that's got to be almost metropolis sized.

They used to have decent barbecue but now I guess these days the rednecks are a little afraid to be seen in the neighborhood at Arthur Bryants and real food so they have to settle for fried chicken.

Arthur Bryant's is an institution, though my preference is for Gates (so darn friendly and tons of stories for the late night!) or Oklahoma Joe's (my mouth is salivating at the thought of it!).

It's the haters eating that crap today. The real eaters are going for bbq, Strouds or too many other places to name.

... and you think the biggest problem is the traffic jams?

I guess you and I don't share the same set of priorities. I've visited KC more times than I can count, to say that this disappoints me, barely scratches the surface.

Good Christians.

meh.

The rumor is that Hank Williams Jr may show up Sarah Palin. Their fear is that if it rains tonight, they could be wallowing around in the mud. It's not a pretty sight.

wallowing in the mud is what they do best in KC.

If they could get Charlie Daniels in on the action they'd have a veritable love fest o' redneckin. The baby boom in 9 months would keep Maury Povich and his "who's the daddy" episodes in business for years.

And the Chick-Fil-As are packed in my area.

http://www.wsbtv.com/ap/ap/georgia/chick-fil-a-supporters-plan-appreciation-day/nP76y/

That's the amazing idea that launched the franchise.

....targeted and tilted.

It's on the local news here and I'm in the KC area.

A friend has it on Facebook that there are long lines around the area Chik-Fil-As, as a warning to not travel in those areas during lunch and supper.

Just drove past the Chick Fil A on Blackbob Rd...line was all the way out into the road for about a quarter of a mile. Disgusting.

The person posting about it on my Facebook account lives in JoCo,KS and said traffic was blocked.

They win what? Heartburn? Satisfaction that they were all mobbing the same chain at once?

This is their Holy day in August and that's it. In the long war they are losing, bit by bit.

Many people have called for a boycott of the company (which is very different from the much rarer call for government bodies to ban the stores). Boycotts server simple purpose: They tell the company that some people will direct their business to companies who share their values and away from those who don't. It's "shape up or lose my business". The implied hope is that enough people will follow along that the business will make less money and realize that it's bad for business to turn off a portion of the public who might have otherwise done business with you...

The flip side is also true. In this case they're saying the same thing: "we will direct our business to companies that share our values".

Embracing bigotry has never been a successful corporate strategy for winning broad market appeal. They will lose more customers than they could possibly gain in the end.

always loved that part of the mass. Sort of like zombieland.

If the traffic is spilling onto the road then call and complain to KCPD about the traffic levels, then call all the local radio stations so they can tell everyone where to redirect their traffic.

96.5 would have a field day with it, taking pictures of the people outside. They have nothing good to say about the groups flooding Chik-fil-A as it is.

http://www.965thebuzz.com/

You can text them and Lazlo would probably talk about it on the air, if he isn't already. I bet 98.9 would also discuss it.

This brings them out into the open--if they aren't already.

They'll be remembered by history about as fondly as these folks are:

In my neck of the woods, it's quite possible.

But I admit the wraps look pretty good.

Chick-fil-A sandwich with extra pickles, large lemonade........

stuff is seriously tasty shit! Been a fave of mine for years.

Racine - Hundreds of people participating in a national effort to support the fast food chain Chick-fil-A are gathered at its only Wisconsin restaurant, in Racine's Regency Mall, Wednesday.

Wisconsin Family Council is handing out 200 to 300 gift cards of appreciation at Chick-fil-A as part of the show of support.

Chick-fil-A has been at the center of a nationwide controversy because Dan Cathy, president of the chain known for its chicken sandwiches and waffle fries, has been public about his opposition to gay marriage - and to political efforts to recognize same-sex marriages. The company has long been known for following the religious principles of its ownership. For example, it is closed on Sundays.

Cathy said in a recent interview that the company supports "the biblical definition of the family unit." His comments sparked outrage among gay-rights activists, and efforts to boycott the restaurant. Officials in several cities sought to deny franchises.

That has, in turn, led to a wave of support for the restaurant and for Cathy's willingness to be open about his beliefs and how they infuse his business.

Former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee declared Aug. 1 as "Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day" throughout the nation.

In Racine, workers at the restaurant say extra staff was brought in Wednesday for the influx of business.

http://www.jsonline.com/news/wisconsin/hundreds-turn-out-in-racine-to-support-chickfila-cc6b5np-164617146.html

they are handing out free gift cards!

Wisconsin Family Council is handing out 200 to 300 gift cards of appreciation at Chick-fil-A as part of the show of support.

That's the first thing that leaped out at me.

If they advertised the cards at all I'm sure quite a few came out, even though they normally wouldn't, for the chance at getting a free gift card.

An old friend from school lives in Racine and she said something about one of her friends going because they heard about the gift cards.

Her friend was going with his boyfriend, just to make things a bit more fun.

What's the tax status of the Wisconsin Family Council?

http://www.wifamilyaction.org/About

So all those gift cards they purchased were paid for with tax-deductible donations. Keep that in mind for the next time conservatives are grousing about liberal non-profit groups and how they use their money.

Of course, I'm sure they say "well, that's different".

Would LOVE to know how many churches are in on this bigotry, as well.

Most will stay quiet about it, though. Few will really admit to it.

It won't last, chickfila is over. Most people are sick of supporting corps who support hate. Plenty of better and healthier choices out there.

Rmember the boycotts of whole foods , walmart, target and fresh and easy??


All of these business and still here and doing well....

In a month there will be another business in the cross hairs here at du.

with some ice cold kool-aid.

A caller to a radio station in KC now is saying they are going to give free chicken sandwichs on November 6th with proof you voted sticker. They said one per person with a valid ID. WTF.

Maybe I am wrong but I have always believed that it is illegal to pay people or give them a gift in return for their vote.

As long as they don't require people to vote a certain way it is legal, I don't know that it should be though.

http://my.firedoglake.com/teddysanfran/2010/11/02/free-food-for-voting-heres-where/

Long tradition in my Podunk town bar and grill: Nickel beer on election night if you wear that silly "I voted sticker".

drinks aren't exactly the key to longevity.

It was on 980 KMBC radio Scott parks show.

Why? That's the KC home of Rush and Glenn. Never get your news from there.

Just turn on sport radio. You'll be glad you did. If I'm not listening to music in the car I'm listening to this station: http://www.610sports.com/ The Big Show is on right now-you could be listening to them all fight about the Royals this season, gripe about Sporting, and declare that so-and-so will be the second coming for the Chiefs. (Actually, I think they've just been complaining about quarterbacks the last few days-again.)

Or listen to this: http://www.ktbg.fm/ Local NPR station. Good news, good variety of music and lots of info about local concerts and such.

it works

but where will they be tomorrow?

They want to have the same thing but on election day, I had to go to the mall today in Burlington,Ma and it was an absolute zoo. I didnt even know there was a chick fil-a in Mass, i thought they were opening up the first one in Boston.

Because they know that everyone at that place will be as hateful as they are.

the individual stores are wonderful people. Organized hate dipped in grease.

true Dem.

In my Oklahoma Gay Pride 20th Anniversary T-shirt.

My homage to Montgomery.

I'm taking a Richard Dawkins book to read while I wait.

This should be interesting.

Love the attitude.

I used to be a member back in the day.

After Bush got back in office, I really had to take a huge step away from politics. It was damaging my health.

I supported Obama, pounded shoe leather, helped out as best as I could, but I didn't get back into the forums.

I'm doing much better, but things in this country have gotten much worse. I'm not sitting idly by. I won't. I can't.

I appreciate the welcome!

Sometimes I think being in the warm and safe arms of DU and the many businesses who provide benefits to gay etc. partners lulls all of us into a false sense of security about the steady advance of the rights of gay, lesbian, transgendered, etc. folks. That's not the case. Today's strong response to patronizing Chick-Fil-A is not just some pro "traditional marriage" protest, it is a clarion call of hatred for gay people. Those who have lined up and clogged traffic are not pro anything, they are expressing their hatred of anyone "different" and foreign to them (like a "Kenyan president").

They have had their "so there" day, and feel good about it. We have had a display of the challenge in front of all of us about the struggle that lies ahead.

Do not take this lightly. Take it as motivation.

That this is a clarion call of hatred for gay people. I actually think the motivations here are somewhat varied. Certainly there is a large bloc of people out there today who are full of hate. Probably a sizeable percentage of those eating chicken today. But I suspect the rest are there for somewhat different reasons, some of which don't really have a whole lot to do with the marriage equality issue at all.

There are people out there who oppose marriage equality and aren't filled with hate. Many are, but there are some who don't particularly care about homosexuality, but also don't believe marriage laws should be changed. I know people who feel this way. I suspect that deep down, some of these people don't really care at all about the issue, but they oppose it simply because the left is for it. On a related point, I think that's what is motivating a lot of what we've seen today. Eating at Chick-Fil-A today can function as a generic act of spite against the left and an expression of solidarity with conservatives and conservatism. I believe this is why this caught on with the RW pundits and ideologues who have encouraged patronizing the restaurant en masse. It's a means of mobilizing the conservative base in the name of a conservative idea and demonstrating opposition to the left at large.

You see this kind of phenomenon with all types of issues. I suspect that some people who expressed sympathy with 9/11 Truth didn't 'really' believe in it, but used the issue as a means of demonstrating opposition to Bush. I also believe that many Muslims who tell a pollster they sympathize with terrorists don't actually have such sympathy, but they say so out spite for the West. I've always believed that most African-Americans knew that OJ was guilty, but they preferred to act like they didn't because appearing to side with the system was a bridge too far. Group identification matters in politics and ideological identity. If the other side is for or against something, it can be difficult to admit you agree and much easier to pretend you don't.

There is hate on display today for sure. But I'm certain that plenty of people out there today are less saying that they hate gays and more saying 'I'm part of something and I don't like the other side.'

In any case, the tide is turning and it can't be rolled back. They can eat chicken all day long and it's not going to change the fact that marriage equality is on the march and it's only a matter of time before it's the law of the land.

They don't wait in long lines to make a statement. They wait in long lines because they are seething and angry, and that is what the Karl Roves of the world have depended upon for decades. You are right that marriage equality will ultimately win out - but it's going to be a rocky and violent ride.

Thanks for a thoughtful post, though. However, denying hatred has gotten many killed throughout human history. "It can't be that bad" is an invitation to disaster.

But I don't think all of them are. It's a bit more nuanced then 'they are all a bunch of haters.'

It's more a mixture of haters and people wanting to identify with something.

Hundreds of people, news helicopters, ect.

Unless they were handing out free chicken, I think there was about to be a lot of disappointed people.

Now go watch your Hee Haw reruns.

Maybe there should be a vetting process when it comes to USER NAMES here....?

Had MIRT had a look at that user name, that poo-flinging assclown would have never gotten an account here.

too. All the way down very busy streets.

This has to be organized by clowns like Beck and Hannity

I had a burger, topped with tolerance and understanding. With a sprinkle of
love. And a side order of compassion.

http://www.wbtv.com/story/19168811/wendys-owner-in-boone-says-he-stands-with-chick-fil-a-during-controversy

The world's largest Wendy's franchise owner advertised his support of Chic-fil-a's bigotry today. To their credit however the national Wendy's spokespeople quickly made it clear that they did not endorse the message of the franchise owner. The bigoted signs are now down so it is possible they even threatened his franchise.

other than that, wasn't my post pretty clever???

Most people who were cheering for the racists during the civil rights era choose not to talk about their past support of blatant racism today, most of them choose to pretend that they were never a part of it. They are able to do that in large part because while there certainly were cameras back in those days there was no internet to go along with those cameras. Today when people take a picture and post it to Facebook it has the potential to be seen by millions and can never be removed from the public sphere.

While many people destroyed the pictures of them attending KKK rallies, people will have to live with the pictures of them attending today's gay bashing appreciation fest today for the rest of their lives. The people who are beaming with pride as they hold their Chick-Fil-A bags in the pictures they are posting on Facebook today will have to explain those pictures to their gay grandchildren years down the road, I suspect a lot of them are going to be living in shame over their support for bigotry today.

The future is moving in the direction of equality and those who are supporting bigotry today are going to only wish they were in the dustbin of history, but rather than being in the dustbin they will be receiving public attention for their bigotry for far longer than they would like.

When the polls seem to indicate that Obama will win the election, these are the people that will be voting for "that other guy"

Many Christians feel Mormonism is a cult.

(A sight disclaimer here. My mother and my step dad converted to Mormonism in their later years and tried to convince me to join. I refused as I like coffee and smoked cigarettes at the time plus I felt Joesph Smith perpetrated a fraud. I have known a few Mormons and basically they seem to me to be nice people who are honest and responsible. Admittedly my experience is limited.)

However I have talked to a number of Christians who have expressed an intense dislike of the Mormon religion. Many Christians are strong Republicans and I feel that those who distrust Romney's religion will fail to show up at the polls in November.