Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:46 AM
dipsydoodle (32,677 posts)
Olympics badminton: Eight players disqualified
The Badminton World Federation has disqualified eight players after accusing them of "not using one's best efforts to win".
Four pairs of players - two from South Korea and one each from China and Indonesia - are out of the Olympics after their matches on Tuesday. The eight were charged after a stream of basic errors during the match. All four pairs were accused of wanting to lose in an attempt to manipulate the draw for the knockout stage. The federation met on Wednesday morning to discuss the case. As well as the "not using best efforts" charge, the players were also accused of "conducting oneself in a manner that is clearly abusive or detrimental to the sport". http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/olympics/19072677
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20 replies, 1369 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| dipsydoodle | Aug 2012 | OP | |
| deminwi | Aug 2012 | #1 | |
| exboyfil | Aug 2012 | #3 | |
| RagAss | Aug 2012 | #2 | |
| Blue_Tires | Aug 2012 | #5 | |
| dipsydoodle | Aug 2012 | #7 | |
| obamanut2012 | Aug 2012 | #19 | |
| Blue_Tires | Aug 2012 | #4 | |
| Scuba | Aug 2012 | #6 | |
| MineralMan | Aug 2012 | #8 | |
| malaise | Aug 2012 | #9 | |
| snooper2 | Aug 2012 | #10 | |
| malaise | Aug 2012 | #11 | |
| dipsydoodle | Aug 2012 | #12 | |
| malaise | Aug 2012 | #14 | |
| obamanut2012 | Aug 2012 | #20 | |
| 4th law of robotics | Aug 2012 | #13 | |
| KurtNYC | Aug 2012 | #15 | |
| LisaL | Aug 2012 | #16 | |
| AngryOldDem | Aug 2012 | #17 | |
| obamanut2012 | Aug 2012 | #18 |
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:50 AM
deminwi (53 posts)
1. Great decision
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I wish the governing bodies of other sports were like the Badminton World Federation.
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Response to deminwi (Reply #1)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:54 AM
exboyfil (3,398 posts)
3. I have to wonder about a rules structure that
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rewards losing though. I would rank and power pair in groups of four, six or eight. Round robin the four, six, or eight teams and only the highest point total team goes forward (win loss first and total point differential second in the case of a three way tie). Losers brackets should be eliminated. I don't know how badminton is structured, but losing should never be rewarded.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:51 AM
RagAss (13,414 posts)
2. What is the world coming to...
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when you can't throw a badminton match ?
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Response to RagAss (Reply #2)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:55 AM
Blue_Tires (31,753 posts)
5. I imagine that's one of the more difficult sports to lose intentionally
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while still trying to look legit
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Response to Blue_Tires (Reply #5)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:58 AM
dipsydoodle (32,677 posts)
7. From what I can make out re that match
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there was nothing subtle - what they were doing stood out a mile.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:54 AM
Blue_Tires (31,753 posts)
4. ugly
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I'm betting they change the structure of the tournament next time around...
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:56 AM
Scuba (26,783 posts)
6. Wonder what the Federation would think of the Patriots sitting Tom Brady.
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:01 AM
MineralMan (54,013 posts)
8. Ah, yet another sleazy badminton scandal.
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That sport is just rife with scandalous behavior.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:43 AM
malaise (106,084 posts)
9. Good response from Simon Jenkins
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/aug/01/london-2012-chinese-badminton-players-medals
<snip> The attacks on Chinese and Korean badminton players are grossly unfair. They were doing their best with added cunning. Day and after day we read relentless hyperbole about the vital importance to national pride of winning: not winning a heat or a round or an exhibition, but winning medals. So obsessed is the media with this single index that the BBC has stopped displaying the medals table because it is too humiliating. This is the pastiche chauvinism of a banana republic. Along come the Chinese, who clearly know how to win. You plan. The badminton heats were apparently staged to give an incentive, in certain circumstances, to losing games in the qualifying stages. Faced with the risk of a tougher opponent later and thus losing a medal, the players did what their tacticians said. They lost a round. I cannot see how, in sporting terms, this is any different from sprint cyclists hovering for an age on a curve, waiting for the right moment to surge forward. Anyway, the athletes were not trying to lose, they were losing so as being more likely to win. The truth of the matter is that the actions of these badminton players are in the spirit of the modern Olympics. It is not a spectator sport but a deeply serious competition for national pride. The players should be congratulated on their ingenuity. |
Response to snooper2 (Reply #10)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:50 AM
malaise (106,084 posts)
11. My favourite lines
So obsessed is the media with this single index that the BBC has stopped displaying the medals table because it is too humiliating. This is the pastiche chauvinism of a banana republic. Give thanks for Helen Glover and Heather Stanning - gold at last http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/aug/01/london-2012-glover-stanning-gb-gold <snip> Great Britain has collected its first gold medal of the London Games after Heather Stanning and Helen Glover won the coxless pairs with a stunning performance that will spark a mass outpouring of celebration and relief across the country. One had never stepped in a rowing boat until 2008, the other will return to serve in the Royal Artillery in September. But Glover and Stanning will now go down in the record books as the first homegrown gold medallists of the London 2012 Olympics. Not only that but, in their first Olympics, they have made British sporting history as the first female rowing gold medal winners in a sport that has reliably delivered over the years. |
Response to malaise (Reply #11)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:04 AM
dipsydoodle (32,677 posts)
12. If and when this comes around where you are
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do please watch it. http://www.uk-telly-surfer-new-tv-drama-guide.com/2012/07/new-bbc-drama-bertie-and-dickie-stars.html
Its about the '48 Olympics and its huge fun to watch. |
Response to dipsydoodle (Reply #12)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:03 AM
malaise (106,084 posts)
14. Thanks dipsydoodle
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Looks great
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Response to malaise (Reply #9)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:15 PM
obamanut2012 (9,971 posts)
20. Ridiculous -- of course they tried to lose
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:11 AM
4th law of robotics (6,801 posts)
13. If they really were just having a bad day talk about insult to injury
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"No way anyone could actually play that badly . . . it must be some sort of conspiracy"
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:28 AM
KurtNYC (12,071 posts)
15. They need to change the knockout draw to a random selection
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The biggest mistake of these players was not making it look good. This kind of thing goes on in various sports that have multi-level draws which use the results of one round to determine the match-ups in the next.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:00 PM
LisaL (22,820 posts)
16. What the players supposedly did sounds like strategy to me.
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So I completely disagree with disqualifying them.
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Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:04 PM
AngryOldDem (8,788 posts)
17. Good. That's what they deserve.
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I saw the story early this morning and was hoping that this would be the outcome.
Deliberately hitting the shuttlecock into the net and having volleys of only four hits does not constitute competitive play, much less competitive play worthy of the Olympics. |
Response to dipsydoodle (Original post)
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:12 PM
obamanut2012 (9,971 posts)
18. They should have been -- good!
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I've been following this since yesterday,
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