Wed Aug 1, 2012, 07:50 AM

skip fox (12,086 posts)

"No taxes in ten years," a Romney ploy???

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I don't think this is the case, but we might do well to consider it as a possibility so we might be prepared in case.

If Romney had this information leaked, he might have considered the following scenario:

1. With the leak, the demands for him to release his returns increase dramatically.

2. Since he can no longer ignore the demands, he releases returns which may look bad but not half as bad as the leak suggested they would.

3. When the facts are seen to be more positive than those projected, Romney has somewhat inoculated himself on this issue and the case of the returns can be overcome in several news cycles.

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"No taxes in ten years," a Romney ploy??? (Original post)	skip fox	Aug 2012	OP
One argument against this is the timing. Reid got the call "a month or so ago. . . ."	skip fox	Aug 2012	#1
Don't psych yourself; no need to do their work for them.	Scootaloo	Aug 2012	#2
If it was the case, which I doubt, the process has already begun	skip fox	Aug 2012	#3
"Not half as bad as suggested." In order to recover here	Robb	Aug 2012	#4
Nobody in the White House is saying this.	Ganja Ninja	Aug 2012	#5
He is being put to the place where he is or isn't a liar...he has to refute with proof.	Historic NY	Aug 2012	#6
I am so glad the story came out now, true or false.	skip fox	Aug 2012	#7
Swiss bank accounts, offshore accounts in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands....	nc4bo	Aug 2012	#8
They're not that clever	CanonRay	Aug 2012	#9
As I wrote, it's not likely, but we might mentally prepare for something less damning.	skip fox	Aug 2012	#11
Well, we can withhold judgement until we see them...	kentuck	Aug 2012	#10
No	Marrah_G	Aug 2012	#12
You're right, of course. We can't let up!!!	skip fox	Aug 2012	#13

Response to skip fox (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 07:54 AM

skip fox (12,086 posts)

1. One argument against this is the timing. Reid got the call "a month or so ago. . . ."

"A month or so ago, he (Reid) said, a person who had invested with Bain Capital called his office."

Link to Huffington Post story:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/31/harry-reid-romney-taxes_n_1724027.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 07:55 AM

Scootaloo (6,108 posts)

2. Don't psych yourself; no need to do their work for them.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:00 AM

skip fox (12,086 posts)

3. If it was the case, which I doubt, the process has already begun

and the best we can do is realize it as a possibility. Then Democratic speakers when interviewed need not rail precisely against the 0% for 10 years, but an extremely low percentage over a number of years.

When calling for full release, they can start with the 0% but go ont to say "But even if it was only, say, 10% over 5 years the case is egregious." Something like that.

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:04 AM

Robb (38,588 posts)

4. "Not half as bad as suggested." In order to recover here

....the returns would have to show a decade of giving to OxFam. They won't.

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:06 AM

Ganja Ninja (15,733 posts)

5. Nobody in the White House is saying this.

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But that doesn't mean we can't repeat it ad nauseum and treat it as fact until proven otherwise.

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:16 AM

Historic NY (19,872 posts)

6. He is being put to the place where he is or isn't a liar...he has to refute with proof.

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:28 AM

skip fox (12,086 posts)

7. I am so glad the story came out now, true or false.

After Aurora and Romney's European trip the calls for releasing his forms has somewhat diminished. (The boring effect.)

But now the calls should be lo0uder thatn ever, and we have the leverage. Yes, he'll need to release them or have us thinking the worst.

As you wrote, "he has to refute with proof."

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:35 AM

nc4bo (13,356 posts)

8. Swiss bank accounts, offshore accounts in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands....

deliberately set up so overseas businesses can avoid paying U.S. taxes...

Even if tax return issue was a set up, most Americans aren't going to give those accounts a pass.

He's still got an awful lot of explainin' to do to the average American.

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:59 AM

CanonRay (4,766 posts)

9. They're not that clever

This is a rich guy hiding what he's been getting away with for decades. Period. Don't complicate it.

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:04 AM

skip fox (12,086 posts)

11. As I wrote, it's not likely, but we might mentally prepare for something less damning.

One thinks of all eventualities in these things. (What's that movie about Palin as VP candidate?)

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:01 AM

kentuck (66,861 posts)

10. Well, we can withhold judgement until we see them...

Right? Otherwise, the suspicions will linger.

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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:08 AM

Marrah_G (22,705 posts)

12. No

It would be stupid for them to put this out there. Even it if it shown not to be true, the damage is already done. The Dems need to continue to hammer him on this.

"No taxes in ten years," a Romney ploy???

1. One argument against this is the timing. Reid got the call "a month or so ago. . . ."

2. Don't psych yourself; no need to do their work for them.

3. If it was the case, which I doubt, the process has already begun

4. "Not half as bad as suggested." In order to recover here

5. Nobody in the White House is saying this.

6. He is being put to the place where he is or isn't a liar...he has to refute with proof.

7. I am so glad the story came out now, true or false.

8. Swiss bank accounts, offshore accounts in Bermuda and the Cayman Islands....

9. They're not that clever

11. As I wrote, it's not likely, but we might mentally prepare for something less damning.

10. Well, we can withhold judgement until we see them...

12. No

13. You're right, of course. We can't let up!!!