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Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:30 AM

Remember the Pennsylvania church that had that fake "terrorism" scare?

The church "leadership" will be indicted. Good.

Dauphin County prosecutors today charged a church and its pastor after a mock "terrorism raid" in March.

The fake raid occurred at Glad Tidings Assembly of God Church in Lower Swatara Township when four men -- one carrying an unloaded but real gun -- rushed into a room full of youth-group participants, put pillowcases over their heads and forced them into a van. The children didn't know the raid was fake. One was injured.

View full sizeGlad Tidings on Fulling Mill Road, Lower Swatara Township

The district attorney's office filed charges of false imprisonment, a felony, and simple assault against the church and youth pastor Andrew D. Jordan, 28.

Lower Swatara Police Chief Richard Wiley said he didn't understand the rationale of the church leaders and that he's never witnessed a case like this.

http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/index.ssf/2012/07/charges_filed_against_pastor_i.html#incart_river_default

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:42 AM

1. Will assholes and idiots never cease? Glad they are facing consequences. nt

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:45 AM

2. HOORAY!!!!!

My brother got put through one of these fake terrorist attacks at a summer camp back in the late eighties. These assholes have been doing this to generations of children for decades just trying to inflict fear.

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Response to slampoet (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:55 AM

4. That's so disturbing this is not an anomaly but based...

on your post must be a somewhat common practice.

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Response to dballance (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 02:01 AM

5. Over the years I have met one other person who went through it too.

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In Boy Scouts at a camp.

Though both cases were less severe than this.

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Response to slampoet (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:30 PM

11. So if one or a group of the kids mame or kill or subdue one of the fake terrorists, do they win?

LOL,,

Thats the story I want to see...

Mock terrorist raid by church turns deadly when children kill attackers

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:35 PM

12. thats what I would have done.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:53 AM

3. WTF - Who lets these people of obviously questionable decision making skills around kids?

Any adult who thought this was a good idea really does need to be prosecuted and banned from contact with youths and youth ministry permanently.

I think there are more than enough scary news stories and horrible pictures of missionaries who've been beaten, shot execution style or hacked up with machetes that the pastors could have communicated the danger and hardships without kidnapping the kids.

What if one of the kids caused some real harm to themselves or the fake kidnappers by putting up extreme resistance?

If I were that church's insurance company I'd be cancelling their liability policies post haste.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 05:09 AM

6. They should've stuck to fucking children. Corbett is cool with that. nt

 

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 06:40 AM

7. There is something mentally wrong with

the church leaders. I hope they get sent away for a long long time!

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:27 AM

8. Yep. I read it in the Patriot-News when the story broke and just saw the article you referenced.

 

I get the PN 7 days a week. Their on-line edition leaves a lot to be desired. Often when I want to reference something from an article, I can find the on-line equivalent but it doesn't include the paragraph I want to reference so I have to run upstairs (to the master bathroom of course) to grab the paper to make sure I get the quotes and names correct.

But back to your point, the fact that they filed charges against the church is key here. That's a very unusual step, but definitely appropriate in this case. Hopefully it will serve as a warning to other cult churches. I live near the River of God church in Enola and, as you probably read, there was a case not long ago of a pedophile serving as a youth teacher there. I've been accosted on my bicycle by guys from that church trying to induct me into their "culture" and join their bike club. We constantly get shit stuffed into our door handle from them. On the plus side, the dogs scare them off so they don't try to engage in conversation.

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Response to HopeHoops (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:23 PM

10. It always is bad when a church deceives and goes full out for the "scare" factor.

Back when I was 11 or 12 years old, a local movie theater advertized a "motorcycle action" movie.
Free!

Us kids were eager to see it.

Turned out to be one of those lurid "Endtimes" movies, and after they had a fire-and-brimstone preacher.
And they wouldn't let us leave.

Parents raised a stink, but the church (one of those traveling ones,) never did admit doing anything wrong, naturally.

Several years later I saw in the news the church group had broken apart, due to a sex and money scandal.

Good.

I hope this indictment ends up with the head pastor and that "youth pastor" going to jail, and that church closing up due to bankruptcy from parents' lawsuits.

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Response to Archae (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:42 PM

13. There are real churches, predatory churches, and hate group churches (like Westboro)...

 

I'll agree with tax-exempt status for the first type, but not for the other two.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:31 AM

9. Something similar happened in a school a while back I recall..

Found it..

http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-school-terrorizes-students-fake-gunman-drill-161900055.html

Orangeville Jr-Sr High School in Orangeville, Ill., conducted a school shooting drill Wednesday much to the displeasure of parents and students, according to CNN/HLN. School officials elected to place an undercover individual in the school with a non-lethal weapon, which this individual discharged on school property. Students panicked, running for their lives, and one student, who was targeted by name, left school property and had to be tracked down later the same day.

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Response to Archae (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 02:13 PM

14. Sometimes our religious fundamentalists are no better than the ones we're fighting.

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