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Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:37 AM

 

Why does CA Governor Jerry Brown not say anything about what is going down

in Anaheim? There, a police force has essentially declared war on the people and constituted itself as a 21st-century death squad. And Brown says absolutely nothing, zip, NADA. Just like he said absolutely nothing, zip, NADA when the Oakland Police Department almost killed a couple Occupy Oakland protesters.

And Jerry Brown is supposed to be on our team. He is abso-friggin-lutely pathetic and I shall never vote for him again or any voter initiatives he promulgates.

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Reply Why does CA Governor Jerry Brown not say anything about what is going down (Original post)
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 OP
sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #1
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #2
sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #8
Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #3
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #4
Le Taz Hot Jul 2012 #5
MindPilot Jul 2012 #6
sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #7
UnrepentantLiberal Jul 2012 #10
Downwinder Jul 2012 #9
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #14
Downwinder Jul 2012 #20
RKP5637 Jul 2012 #26
Kolesar Jul 2012 #11
harmonicon Jul 2012 #12
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #15
harmonicon Jul 2012 #16
HughBeaumont Jul 2012 #22
Thegonagle Jul 2012 #13
ljm2002 Jul 2012 #17
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #18
Gregorian Jul 2012 #19
sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #21
Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #23
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #27
Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #29
nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #24
KamaAina Jul 2012 #25
coalition_unwilling Jul 2012 #28

Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:51 AM

1. Good question. Not a single elected official who are asking the people to vote for them stood up

for the people when their brutal cops were beating unarmed, peaceful protesters in some cases, nearly to death.

The silence has been deafening.

Maybe it's time to organize a call-in to Brown's office. Citizens have been KILLED, children attacked by dogs on the streets of America, and not a single word from our government who spend trillions on so-called 'national security' in countries where the people are no threat to us.

Something is very wrong about all this.

Here is Jerry Brown's contact information:

Governor Jerry Brown
c/o State Capitol, Suite 1173
Sacramento, CA 95814

Phone: (916) 445-2841
Fax: (916) 558-3160


Everyone should call his office tomorrow and ask for a statement about the killings in Anaheim and the military police who are on the streets. The media apparently won't be doing it.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #1)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:54 AM

2. Thanks for the contact info. I will be calling tomorrow and will post the

 

outcome of the call here.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #2)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:05 AM

8. I'll be calling also. People are DYING in Anaheim and looking at the army they are sending out

there's a good chance that more will die if someone with some sanity doesn't intervene.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:54 AM

3. OK, I know I'm walking into it here but here goes . . .

Jerry Brown isn't the liberal everyone thinks he is. He's a loyal Party boy and does whatever the party tells him. He's actually a centrist for the most part.

You're right. He's said NOTHING about Anaheim and he won't. Just as he said virtually nothing about Oakland. He also VETOED the Hemp Legalization Bill (as did Ahnie). Notice he's not said a word about the feds raiding his state? He's also trying to balance the budget on the backs of the poor and via cuts in education and the safety nets.

And although I'm a big proponent of high-speed rail he's doing everything to shove it through without hearing from the legitimate opposition -- not the partisan GOP but the farmers in the Valley and yes, they DO count! Farmers have legitimate concerns and he's closing his ears to those concerns.

Brown is still riding his "liberal" creds from 40 years ago when in reality he hasn't been a liberal for decades -- if he ever was.

OK, Flak jacket on. I'm ready.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:55 AM

4. I'm so mad right now, I could spit. But no flak will be coming from me towards you. - n/t

 

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:58 AM

5. Oh, I know it won't come from you.

My "fans" just haven't woken up yet.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:00 AM

6. I totally agree. n/t

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:03 AM

7. You're not walking into anything as far as I am concerned. If we can't discuss facts about the

politicians who we put in power, then what is the point of these forums? I am in CA and never hear a word from him. When I was in NY, we heard from the Governor all the time.

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Response to Le Taz Hot (Reply #3)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:15 AM

10. No flak from me either.

 

Brown is still riding his "liberal" creds from 40 years ago when in reality he hasn't been a liberal for decades -- if he ever was.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 05:09 AM

9. The first order of business of government,

is to protect government.

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Response to Downwinder (Reply #9)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 10:34 AM

14. No, the first order of business of government is to

 

Last edited Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:14 PM - Edit history (1)

"ensure domestic tranquility," according to the Preamble to the Constitution, but also to "promote the general welfare," not to protect itself.

Here are some unpleasant facts about the situation in Mouseland:

"The police shootings and the demonstrations have only exacerbated deep divisions in Anaheim. The city’s western half is poor, predominantly Latino, smoggy, economically depressed and so riddled with crime and street violence that many people say they are afraid to leave their homes. But the eastern half – the Anaheim Hills – is affluent, conservative and predominantly white. Many of those affluent residents were quick to condemn the vandalism yesterday, and to support the police, saying they have a tough job policing the gangs and should be thanked, not criticized, for the way they do it."- Andrew Gumbel, Guardian

Don't know about you, but I stand with the western half of Anaheim. Anaheim Hills can go fuck itself.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:09 PM

20. When we had the anthrax scare, who got protection?

The public --- no.

The Postal workers -- no (they are a contract service).

Office holders and government employees.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #14)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:49 PM

26. Relative to Brown, follow the money trail. Like most politicians he

looks for the money and protects the sources. "We the people" don't have much of a voice anymore, but those holding lots of money do. This is USA, Inc., "we the people" are in the way in the "new" America. What a shame. To me, what is going on in Anaheim will eventually be seen for much of America. There will not be solutions to problems, but rather police force to suppress those seen as the problem. And protests will be even more brutally suppressed.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:11 AM

11. Tensions-High-as-Protesters-Picket-Anaheim-Police

I had to look up the story. This would be good for "latest breaking news"
http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Tensions-High-as-Protesters-Picket-Anaheim-Police-164216966.html

The protests were prompted by the July 21 shooting of Manuel Angel Diaz during a foot chase with police. He was unarmed.

Tensions were heightened when Anaheim police fatally shot a second man, Joel Acevedo, in a separate incident the next day. On Friday, police shot at but did not hit a burglary suspect.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:16 AM

12. "Our side"?

What is our side? If there's a side I'm on, I know that very few politicians are on it.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 10:36 AM

15. Um, should have been more specific. Meant 'Liberal\Progressive'. Apologies

 

for the vagueness.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #15)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:32 PM

16. Very few Democrats are on that side anymore, the least of them, Jerry Brown. (nt)

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #12)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:17 PM

22. THANK YOU.

Every time someone tosses around the words "Liberal" and "Most Liberal" paired with "congress" . .. I tell them this:

Out of 535 members of the House and Senate, name me 20 progressives, a la Bernie Sanders. TWENTY.

You're a TeaHadist Republican? You got representatives.

A moderate Democrat slightly to the left of center who likes them some Laissez-fail? Hell, you got plenty of those.

Milquetoast sensible centrists? Come join us, it's beige in here!

You love guns? NRA Republicans, baby.

Hate taxes? You got your men by the hundreds.

Likes you some Jesus? Come to the US Capital.

Free Trade? Over half the House and Senate LUUUUURVES it!!!

Want to see corporations rule the world, Friedmanites? DC's THE GATEWAY DRUG TO THAT!!!

Where's MY representation?

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 06:51 AM

13. I am governor Jerry Brown | my aura smiles and never frowns

soon I will be president

Obama power will soon go away
I will be fuhrer one day
I will command all of you
Your kids will meditate in school
Your kids will meditate in school

California Uber Alles
California Uber Alles
Uber Alles California
Uber Alles California




Hmmm....

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:40 PM

17. I always liked Jerry Brown...

...except for two things: 1 - he is not as adamant in his positions as his father was -- not as much of a crusader for the common man; 2 - related to #1: he's a bit of an elitist -- he doesn't mean to be, probably doesn't even realize it really. He has always been a champion of new ideas and new thinking, in fact his radio show was where I first heard of Vandana Shiva. He also was a champion of the field workers and unions, back in the day -- he supported Cesar Chavez.

That said, my opinion of him has decreased over the past few years. I think he has gone all Third Way on us, which is a crying shame.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 12:54 PM

18. UPDATE: (Results of call to Gov Brown's office July 30):

 

I just got off the phone with a 'Flora' in Governor Brown's office who said she worked in Constituent Affairs.

I asked her what Governor Brown's position is on the Anaheim PD's shooting of unarmed civilians and she said, "Governor Brown has not issued a public statement yet."

I then asked, "Do you know whether or when he plans to issue a public statement?"

"I don't know," Flora replied, "but I can pass along your concerns."

"Fine," I said, " Governor Brown needs to condemn the actions of the Anaheeim PD in shooting unarmed civilians and in using repressive tactics on demonstrators protesting the Anaheim PD's tactics, including unleashing guard dogs on them and shooting pepper spray and rubber bullets at them. He also needs to instruct CA Attorney General Kamala Harris to open a formal investigation of the APD's actions and policies forthwith."

"I'll be happy to pass along your concerns," Flora said.

On that note, we hung up.

If I do not hear Brown speaking out soon, I'll be going down to Anaheim for the next round of protests (probably next weekend).

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:05 PM

19. Thank you. This is what is needed. More people like you.

I'm disturbed by Brown's slide away from caring about the people. I noticed this when he was mayor of Oakland. Although I really know almost nothing about him now. It just appears that he has changed.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #18)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:10 PM

21. Thank you, I haven't had a chance to call yet, but I will and will post the results also.

I will use some of the points you made, if you don't mind. The more people who call, the more likely he is to make a statement. But it's a shame that the people have to push so hard simply to get even a comment on situations like this. And we so far, had had no US official condemnation of the Oakland police or the NYPD or any of the other PDs that so brutally attacked peaceful protesters.

I am going to ask why the Civilian Police are dressed like troops also and why they are armed as if they were going to war.

Be back later after work and will post the results.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:23 PM

23. What have the other Democrats elected to represent Anaheim said?

That city is split into many districts. Loretta Sanchez and two Republicans in the US House. In the CA Senate Lou Correa is a Democrat from the 34th and in the CA House one Democrat among many Republicans the Democrat is 69th district's Jose Solorio.
Have any of these Democrats commented on the police violence going on there? I'd expect strong statements from all of them. Is it across the board silence?

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Response to Bluenorthwest (Reply #23)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:09 PM

27. Remember that the Democratic Party, at heart, is a bourgeois

 

party whose interests lie in protecting the interests of the bourgeoisie against those of the proletariat, when the two are in conflict. So I'm not expecting much from the Democratic congress people either.

I live in Los Angeles proper but this is a California and a human rights issue, hence my interest.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Reply #27)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 04:14 PM

29. Asking what they said, that's all.

I am actually a native of Orange County myself, and I just think if you are going to call one of the elected officials, I'd call them all, starting with the Democrats. County Board of Sups as well.
I think starting with the Representatives of that district is a great idea. If the point is exerting public pressure, why not put it everywhere it can be placed?

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:28 PM

24. Let me show you why... it has to do with our back country

but I am guessing the gov has been "captured."

July 27, 2012 (San Diego’s East County)--Standing on a former mountaintop blasted away to build the new Suncrest Substation, Governor Jerry Brown yesterday praised completion of the 117-mile Sunrise Powerlink high voltage lines—and denigrated 79,000 citizens who have fought against destroying our communities and scenic vistas.

“You have to crush the opposition,” the Governor said forcefully, after joking that there were more dignitaries inside the celebration than protesting down the street.

His words are unbecoming of our state’s highest official and an insult to the hard-working people of our region, most of whom couldn’t afford to take off work and attend a protest rally during the work day in this remote spot. But their concerns are valid, heartfelt and deserve serious consideration, not hate or derision.

Let me tell you about some of those people our Governor wants to “crush.


http://eastcountymagazine.org/node/10538

Read that editorial... it has a lot of hints. Go to the magazine and read the story celebrating the power link.

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Response to coalition_unwilling (Original post)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 01:36 PM

25. For the same reason Oakland Mayor Jerry Brown supported cops firing rubber bullets

into crowds in a similar situation in 2003.

I agree that he's become a parody of himself, but we still need Prop 30. Without it, our once-vaunted education system will be well on the way to laughingstock status.

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Response to KamaAina (Reply #25)

Mon Jul 30, 2012, 03:12 PM

28. Oh, yeah, I forgot about that little incident. Thanks for the reminder. I think Mrs. C_U (Alma) and

 

I shall be heading down to Anaheim for the next round of protests. We'll try to stay safe, of course, but this is really the point where all Californians need to decide whose side they are on, imo.

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