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Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:17 PM

A person making $50,000 a year pays 10 cents a day in taxes for food stamps

From: Examiner.com

If you were to ask 100 people how much they believed a married person with one child would pay in taxes, you'd likely get 100 different answers. Following that, if you asked them to explain the breakdown of where that tax money went, specifically to SNAP (formerly the food stamp program), it would be fair to assume nearly all would be unable to muster a coherent response.

Many people might be surprised to learn that the average contribution to the food stamp program is a little over 10 cents, or one thin dime, a day. Let's look at the numbers.

A married person with one child making $50,000 a year will pay exactly $3,820 in federal taxes. Of those, $2100 is allocated to Social Security, and $725 is distributed Medicare. This leaves a whopping $995 to be used to pay for programs administrated by the Federal government. That money is broken down below in its entirety:

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Consider the context. A person who is paid $50,000 a year earns, on average, $136 every 24 hours. Meaning that in a little over six hours, in the example where a person is paid for every hour of their life in perpetuity, that person would be able to pay for their entire yearly contribution to ensure that hungry people are fed.

Read more:
http://www.examiner.com/article/a-person-making-50-000-a-year-pays-10-cents-a-day-taxes-for-food-stamps

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Be sure to check out the list where they break down how all your taxes are distributed for programs administrated by the Federal government.

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Reply A person making $50,000 a year pays 10 cents a day in taxes for food stamps (Original post)
RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 OP
DontTreadOnMe Jul 2012 #1
RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #2
progressoid Jul 2012 #7
Curmudgeoness Jul 2012 #8
mythology Jul 2012 #3
Tennessee Gal Jul 2012 #4
d_r Jul 2012 #5
RedStateLiberal Jul 2012 #6
Mendocino Jul 2012 #10
freshwest Jul 2012 #11
B Calm Jul 2012 #16
glowing Jul 2012 #9
quaker bill Jul 2012 #12
boppers Jul 2012 #14
glowing Jul 2012 #15
hfojvt Jul 2012 #13

Response to RedStateLiberal (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:44 PM

1. Brother, can you spare a dime?

I am embarrassed that a majority of Americans just ignore the poor.

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Response to DontTreadOnMe (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:49 PM

2. Me too. What's worse is conservatives who

treat the poor like freeloaders and get all outraged that their taxes are going to help the poor.. Many of those same people also call themselves Christians.

It boggles the mind.

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Response to DontTreadOnMe (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:57 PM

7. To think that phrase came from the 1930's.

And today, the same people that bitch about SNAP probably wouldn't bother to pick up a dime on the sidewalk.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:27 PM

8. "wouldn't bother to pick up a dime on the sidewalk"---

Excellent point. This is really a sad commentary on society in the US today.

But the other problem is that things like this do not get widely circulated. People should know this.

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:49 PM

3. Thanks for posting this.

It's really interesting.

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:50 PM

4. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing. nt

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:52 PM

5. actually

that .10 a day contributes to SNAP as well as the School Lunch program and WIC - so not just "food stamps"

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Response to d_r (Reply #5)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:55 PM

6. Also true according to the article:

Therefore, a married person with one child who makes $50,000 a year will pay $36.82 in taxes to ensure the food stamp program is fully funded. But wait, there is more. That $36.82 is not only for food stamps. Indeed, that money is allocated to two other programs that include the school lunch program, and the special supplemental food program for women, infants and children. Keep in mind, this comprises the totality of the costs associated with the program including administrative.

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Reply #6)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:33 PM

10. BUT THAT $36.82

will pay for a meal at The Outback!!!!

I'm not going give up my blooming onion supper for a bunch of lazy welfare trollops so they can steal my money while getting a refill on their diet cokes!!!!!!! They can get work or are there no workhouses, no prisons? HRRRUMPPHHH!!!!

I'm Mitt Romney and I agree with this thread.

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #10)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:50 PM

11. Hehehe!

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Response to Mendocino (Reply #10)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:56 AM

16. Ha ha, Mitt Romney agrees!!

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:26 PM

9. What upsets people making that $50,000/ yr

is that it doesn't really go all that far. There are so many costs if living, that at the end of the day, there is very little left. When they see someone with an EBT card and see that their conveyor belt load of food contains better quality items than they can afford, they get upset.

If that person making $50,000/ yr before taxes and insurance (if lucky to have) are taken out, it's not a ton to live on for a family. Believe me, my husband and I are just short of the $50,000 threshold. We have mortgage, cars, car insurance, gas, daycare, food expenses... While I recognize that I am lucky enough to be ok week to week; we also live in that fear of a loss of income or a car accident or a hurricane blowing the roof off the house or a major medical illness that would put us in the poor house.

When the middle class family making that $50,000/ yr have an emergency, we are holding bake sales, begging family for help, and charging credit cards with interest... Credit cards seem to be the middle-class/ working class stand by for assistance.

The reality is, having a socialized medical system would take a huge burden off of all Americans. The truth is that when a family has a child, pd maternity/ paternity leave should be a right, we should jaw 4 - 6 wks of pd vacation every year, we should have a national daycare system similar to school, we should have better public transportation so paying for getting to work isn't a must in so many areas, and when a tax paying family finds itself in tough times and needs a bit more help with say formula or food or energy (heating/ cooling), it ought to be easier to access for those rough times... Perhaps then the family won't lose their home or wouldn't need to worry about doing anything but fighting a cancer diagnosis instead of the bills that will pile up still.

It's not that poor people shouldn't receive assistance; they actually need more in my opinion. Its that it shouldn't be so damned hard for those who normally do well year after year to fall completely because they don't qualify bases on having a car or last year's tax returns. The system actually penalizes married couples. If my husband and I were not married, we would qualify for SNAP bases on individual income. If I became pregnant, I could qualify for medicaid, WIC, and SNAP... Possibly even educational vouchers, housing assistance, and daycare vouchers.

And now that so many jobs require college education and the costs soaring, young people are starting out strapped before they begin...

The real items that congress needs to be taking up is collecting taxes for the Romney's dressage horse and for offshoring their money. Their tax rate should be much higher than the avg Anerican. Minimum wage should be a living wage. And with the fact that both women and men are working and productivity has increased, the avg work week should be closer to 30/ 32 hrs a week so that people have time to live and spend with their family. Technology has made things easier; there is no reason to be out and about 60 hrs a week trying to eek by. And when that middle class family has a tough year or 2, it should be easier for them to qualify for some help; rather than turn to credit cards and interest loans.

Our society has such a me, me, me quality to it with communities disjointed that people don't come together to get things done that make sense. It also means that we may have to look at ourselves and lives and decide if sharing means more than getting one over on the next guy?

This is why u hear people complain. Many still thought that welfare queens and deiving caddies and living the good life... It's only now that so many are in this Main St depression that they are realizing the govt they pad taxes to and did the "American dream" thing, played by the rules, etc, is not there for them in their time of need. It's how the teaparty meme took off at first. And then occupy made more sense after they were bamboozled by the teaparty Klan.

Organize, run real candidates, get your community together, and elect more women to seats of representaion (and not the plain Bachman type).

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Response to glowing (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:31 AM

12. A false sense of envy

I have seen and heard people react poorly to people using SNAP cards at the checkout line. All they see are the groceries, not the rest of this life. During the 1974 recession I lived on unemployment insurance and food stamps for a period of time. Since I had unemployment insurance, I had to pay $10 to purchase my $44 of food stamps (for the month). I understand that benefits are a good bit more generous now.

I lived in a beat up 30+ year old travel trailer which was great because my rent and utilities were only $42 a month. So I managed to take my $40 a week in unemployment, and $44 a month in food stamps and lived on it. I spent $5 on an organic garden plot at the university and grew veggies, I caught a few fish, and bought staples with the food stamps. I could even toss a few gallons of gas in my very old used car and go look for work (when it was running, when it wasn't I was the mechanic). There was no TV, no new clothes, and no air conditioning. I ran a small space heater in the winter, fortunately, without burning the place down. I did manage to afford a bag of chips or oreo cookies on occasion...

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Response to glowing (Reply #9)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:46 AM

14. "We have mortgage, cars, car insurance, gas, daycare, food expenses"...

Let me guess, you don't think you're rich.

You probably don't think that compared to the vast majority of people on the planet, you are rich beyond even their wildest dreams. You are apparently *so* rich that you have multiple cars, have ownership on your living property, and can even *pay people to take care of your children*.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090119232140AAGd96k

Try living on $7,725 a year, and then tell me you aren't filthy rich right now, and yet, still complaining about it.

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Response to boppers (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:09 AM

15. I'm saying that it doesn't go far..

It's adequate with small perks... But any family that has that income and ends up with an emergency or job loss spirals quickly... And there is nothing to catch them until they are at the bottom and poverty increases.

Case in point, my sister and her husband would have been greatful for some help from WIC. She's a teacher. She ended up pumping for 6 months to save $... And
Now we all send a few extras her way. I still think she could qualify for help. VT is generally more liberal with helping.

My co-worker has been in "engaged" stays forever now. The moment she actually marries, her SNAP would fall away. That's my big point about work paying a living wage.

Do I care that anyone gets SNAp or
Assistance when they need it; no. More food, less bombs for me all the way. I've grown up with hearing these things from people and everyone has.

Stop fighting for the scraps and go after those who really keep us all down!'n

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 03:18 AM

13. they seem to have screwed up the taxes

$50,000 a year - 11,600 standard deduction for married filing jointly - $3,700*3 (3 exemptions for the family of three) = $27,300 in taxable income*

*note, this assumes no further deductions, no itemized deductions, no IRA contributions (theoretically a couple could put $10,000 into a traditional IRA and reduce their taxable income by that amount. Unrealistic? I make $32,400 (this year) and put $6,000 in my own IRA, and put $5,000 in last year.) No deduction for childcare expenses.

anyway, taxable income of $27,300 = $3,254 for married filing jointly. Then there is the accursed child tax credit of $1,000. So the total tax bill is $2,254 and NOT "exactlty $3,820 in Federal taxes".

Now, generally there is another $3,825 in FICA taxes that the Federal Government takes. Although that has been reduced to $2,825 because of the permanent payroll tax cut for the rich. (For the rich? Well that $50,000 couple gets $1,000, a person like me making $11,000 a year like I did in 2010 only gets $220.)

Given that they are off by taxable income of $3,750 they may have figured it for a SINGLE person with one child, but they also still forgot the accursed child tax credit which unfairly reduces their tax bill by $1,000.

I also was skeptical that food stamps were 1% of the federal budget, but I just checked with SAUS and it appears they are 3% of the federal budget, food stamps have doubled in the last 4 years.

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