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Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:32 PM

Some weekend thoughts from Thomas Paine

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(on crime and poverty)

"When in countries that are called civilized, we see age going to the workhouse and youth to the gallows, something must be wrong in the system of government. It would seem by the exterior appearance of such countries that all was happiness; but there lies hidden from the eye of common observation a mass of wretchedness that has scarcely any other chance than to expire in poverty or infamy. Its entrance into life is marked with the presage of its fate, and until this is remedied, it is in vain to punish."

"Ye who sit in ease and solace yourselves in plenty and who say to yourselves 'Are we not well off?' Have ye not thought of these things? When ye do, ye will cease to speak and feel for yourselves alone"


(on war)

"...that there are men in all countries that get their living by war and by keeping up the quarrels of Nations is as shocking as it is true; but when those who are concerned in the government of a country make it their study to sow discord and cultivate prejudices between nations, it becomes the more unpardonable."

"When we consider the calamities of war and the miseries it inflicts on the human species, surely there is something in the heart of man that calls upon him to think...Let it be heard and let man learn to feel that the true greatness of a nation is founded on principles of humanity...War involves in its progress such a train of unforseen and unsupposed circumstances, such a combination of foreign matters that no human being can calculate the result".




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Gman Jul 2012 #2
freshwest Jul 2012 #5
smirkymonkey Jul 2012 #3
freshwest Jul 2012 #4
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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:23 PM

1. For all their rhetoric, the teabaggers wouldn't like these words.

Thankyou Ken Burch!

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:27 PM

2. I just read through Agrarian Justice

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Wow! Lots of the Founding Fathers would be banned from a teabaggers meeting.

http://www.constitution.org/tp/agjustice.htm

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Response to Gman (Reply #2)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:30 AM

5. It's in the SSA archive. The argument for the social safety net and justice.

Those men didn't look at the slogans or just the symptoms. They looked to the cause of why the world is like it is or was. And what it would take to make it better.

I remember the saying, "Look not for what your fathers passed on to you, look for what they were searching for."

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 09:29 PM

3. Wiser words have never been spoken.

K&R

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 12:25 AM

4. Paine and Thoreau. my heroes.

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Response to Ken Burch (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 02:12 PM

6. Thomas Paine and revolution in religion

Thanks for the great quotes! We all owe Thomas Paine a lot!

I love Thomas Paine's outstanding and thought provoking book on God, Deism and religion, The Age of Reason, The Complete Edition. In this book he calls for a revolution in religion based on our God-given reason and Deism. The potential good Deism can bring about, if given the chance, is limitless.

Progress! Bob Johnson
www.deism.com

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