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Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:12 PM

Romney on England: "It is a small island . . doesn't make things. . the world wants to buy".

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On edit: Just for fun I emailed this to the Guardian writer who wrote about Romney's other gaffes.




As reported by the Political Wire





http://politicalwire.com/


Romney wrote, in his book, No Apology:

"England is just a small island. Its roads and houses are small. With few exceptions, it doesn't make things that people in the rest of the world want to buy. And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions."





I made a prediction that the President's campaign would be leaking little tid bits, and wonder if this is one of them.

Remember Mitt, No Apologies now.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:14 PM

1. OMG

He is in deep water with the Brits now - send this to the British newspapers!

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:41 PM

66. And to think Mitt went there to show off his foreign policy skills. I guess he did.

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:23 PM

118. God, I love England. I love London. Fuck Romney.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:14 PM

2. Their trees...not the right size.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:15 PM

3. yes I did spill my water over my keyboard on that one.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:16 PM

6. omfg... lol

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:28 PM

19. spit take

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:50 PM

34. .

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:15 PM

4. Good lord.

I have no words...

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:15 PM

5. .



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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:18 PM

7. Wow!

So wrong for POTUS.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:19 PM

8. Surely this cannot be true.

Small roads? Small houses? He couldn't really have said that!

Could he?!!

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Response to mainer (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:21 PM

10. When you're flying over at 36,000 feet, they do look small

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:24 PM

13. and as was pointed out up thread, their trees are not the right height.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:19 PM

55. And when you are descending down through the fog,

which always seems to be there, you cannot see just how big London is. Been there, done that and it is far from a little island.

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #10)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 10:01 AM

142. when you live like he does,

anything and everything is smaller

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Response to mainer (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:28 PM

18. He could

He probably complained about their tiny sandwiches.

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Response to mainer (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:03 PM

41. Well, certainly not ALL of them.

And sometimes small is just big enough. Seriously

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Response to mainer (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:17 PM

82. Small houses like Downton Abbey, and all those other

manor houses that dot the landscape.

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Response to Jane Austin (Reply #82)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:31 PM

101. Lord Grantham would appear to be quite plebeian to Mittens. nt

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Response to mainer (Reply #8)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:39 AM

141. Not all of them certainly but I did notice

 

from my travels to europe that the houses and roads there are noticeably smaller.

Not surprising since they cram more people in to less space than we do.

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Response to 4th law of robotics (Reply #141)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:37 PM

154. It's true.

The smallest in Europe, on average, in home space built since 2003 (this is a 2011 study) and tiny compared to the average in the US. Furniture tends to be smaller; not as massively overbuilt and the available space is designed to be utilized efficiently. People in homes tend to spend time in the same rooms at the same time, too. Extra space is a very American concept - just because we have it doesn't mean it's necessary.

As for smaller roads; yes, many of their roads are 'smaller' - they have smaller vehicles, overall. And comprehensive, efficient public transport that minimizes the need for a vehicle at all for many people. I spend a lot of time in the UK and rarely feel like I'm being cramped or don't have enough space (rush hour on the London tube is a different story, I'll grant, but nothing is perfect).



The largest square is the US; the smallest is the UK.
US: 2,300sf
Australia: 2,217sf
Denmark: 1,475sf
France: 1,216sf
Spain: 1,044sf
Ireland: 947sf
UK: 818sf

http://www.apartmenttherapy.com/average-home-sizes-around-the-151738

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:20 PM

9. And this idiot wants to be our chief diplomat and foriegn policy maker???

How to piss off your closest ally, casually!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:22 PM

11. Breaking News: Mitt Romney buys the UK, plans to use it as his own private island.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:52 PM

164. Bulldozes all the small houses to make room for one large compound. "That Buckingham place...

...was large enough for a guest house," Mitt says, "but it was just too old. It had to go."

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:23 PM

12. Peeve: who cares if the rest of the world wants to buy their stuff?

I've never understood this whole "compete globally" nonsense.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:45 PM

30. "Compete globally" means

wealthy capitalists buy up everything of value in the world to resell at a profit. If you can't get something legally, you send in your army to secure it for you. Luckily England will likely remain off Romney's radar because he sees nothing useful there.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:24 PM

14. Oh my

Michelle Obama is walking into a mess when she gets there! This guy is such an idiot. He oughta be ashamed of himself.

And I hope they let her tell the press - because the British press WILL ask about it - "For the first time in a long time, I'm ashamed of America."

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:00 PM

40. The FLOTUS will be her usual gracious, intelligent and elegant

self. And the British press will eat it up and praise her to the moon. Probably contrasting her with Mittwit in the process. It will be to laugh.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #40)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:14 PM

53. She can't get there fast enough!



Seriously!

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #40)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:47 PM

89. Face It England: He's Just Not That Into You

translation: and he/Ann have never found anything they'd like to buy from England.

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Response to otohara (Reply #89)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:25 AM

143. Yet the tailors...

of Saville Road make suits that the rich from around the world come to buy.

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Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:53 PM

74. When Candidate Obama went there in '08

He was greeted as a rock star. Throughout the U.K., he was met by swooning enthusiastic crowds in the tens of thousands and even, at one place, by 200,000. I take it poor Mitts' visit is a bit more toned down. Well, at least the Brit comedians are having a field day.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:25 PM

15. Reminds me of Randy Newman's parody song "Short People"

Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
Short People got no reason
To live
They got little hands
Little eyes
They walk around
Tellin' great big lies
They got little noses
And tiny little teeth
They wear platform shoes
On their nasty little feet
Well, I don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People
Don't want no Short People`Round here
Short People are just the same
As you and I
(A Fool Such As I)
All men are brothers

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:26 PM

16. and their health care system, worse than Socialism

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:27 PM

17. Well, now

That's a statement that says "We support the UK", doesn't it?

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:34 PM

20. England is not an island

who would read a book written by Mitt Romney anyway?

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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:42 PM

25. Mitt, Learn the difference between England, Britain, and UK...

Right after you learn the difference between USSR and Russia.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:06 PM

45. That was my first reaction.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:13 PM

50. If England is an island...

The US is a continent because it sits on North America.

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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:31 PM

86. Scotland is just a suburb. /nt

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Response to Enrique (Reply #20)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 07:09 AM

137. Right. It's only half an island

... like Haiti.

I'm sure Romney didn't write any book. He probably just gave a nod to someone who wrote a check to the actual author. And if the book causes any waves, he will deny authorship. The actual author will find himself looking up at the undercarriage of a bus.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:34 PM

21. Wow! just Wow!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:34 PM

22. I'm waiting for him to say

an "adviser" said that, and he doesn't really believe it, even though his name is on the cover.

It's not like he ever thought that.

An asshole that won't take responsibility for being an asshole on purpose is infinitely worse than an asshole by accident or an asshole on purpose that owns up to it.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:38 PM

23. This guy is a disaster!

No Mitt, you'd have to go back to the days of England that you would love to see America go to in order to see the gross opulence that you are alluding to. When a chateau was really a chateau, and servants were really servants.

Mitt is GROSS and BOORISH!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:40 PM

24. I'm surprised he doesn't chastise them for driving on the wrong side of the road...

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Response to KansDem (Reply #24)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:02 PM

111. They don't.

We do!

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Response to KansDem (Reply #24)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 07:01 AM

136. And the front seat passenger gets the steering wheel

They make their cars backward.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:42 PM

26. Good grief. How embarrassing.

This man better not get anywhere near the Presidency.

8 years of Shrub-style gaffes were more then enough.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:44 PM

27. So wrong on many counts.

England is on an island that most people refer to as Great Britain. England has a land border (shock horror!) with two other nations.

Small houses? Compared to what? The roads are "adequate". Last I heard England had a rail passenger service that works. Kind of. And though not much gets made here anymore there are plenty of people in the rest of the world willing to buy stuff in the City of London.

And if the island of Great Britain was still attached to the European continent (in the land sense), the whole of history would be very different. The Romans would have marched over here. We might have been part of a larger France. Who knows? That's an alternative reality.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:14 PM

52. Well...

While he is a moron, we do have the least living space per person in Europe. At least according to the most reputable source I know: QI.

Beyond that he's a moron of course.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:18 PM

112. lol!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:45 PM

28. Rumor is he wants to tear down England and install a car elevator.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:45 PM

29. Mitt the twit!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:49 PM

31. "Small houses! Small Roads! It's a nation of Hobbits!"

"Teeny people who don't do anything productive but drink and make merry all day!"

Well, he might as well have said it.

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Response to mainer (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:16 PM

97. LOL

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Response to mainer (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:27 PM

123. Sounds like heaven!

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Response to mainer (Reply #31)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:43 AM

133. Like the Hobbits, they saved our collective ass.

At a terrible cost, they held the line. We owe them more than we can ever repay.

Romney is an ugly fraction of a man. My apologies to men.

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Response to sarge43 (Reply #133)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:49 PM

157. Can I just say, as a Brit, and on behalf of my dead grandfather,


That you are the first American I have EVER heard say something like this and it means more to me than I can say.

Thank you.

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Response to sibelian (Reply #157)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:23 PM

173. Thank you.

I'm sorry you haven't heard more Americans say thank you. We aren't all Romneys (thank God) and many of us do recognize the debt we owe. Not only your country's valiant defense, also law, language, literature and so much more.

You all have a great Olympic Games.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:49 PM

32. They make stuff I want to buy.

The Jaguar XK comes to mind.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:04 PM

42. I think beer and ale.

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Response to AlinPA (Reply #42)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:47 PM

69. Fish and chips

And wonderfully bitter pale ale.

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Response to Aerows (Reply #69)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 11:26 AM

178. Don't forget the mushy peas!

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Response to spiderpig (Reply #178)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:13 PM

179. I hate peas

But I like peapods in stir-fry!

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:09 PM

48. Their music, too.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #48)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:58 PM

75. good point!

Romney doesn't strike me as a fan of The Who or the Stones though. Bet he couldn't name a single song.

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Response to Fawke Em (Reply #48)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:16 PM

98. And we buy books by their authors

Many of them to be studied in academic settings!

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Response to treestar (Reply #98)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 04:57 PM

170. And popular titles, too--like, oh, let me see--

the Harry Potter series!

And many of our most successful TV shows are just cheap copies of better versions that were first made in England.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:24 PM

60. For the ladies: LUSH UK, where it all began, plus Boden which has the most adorable clothes. n/t

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:14 PM

96. They made stuff I've bought FOR YEARS. BEATLES music, for one.

The entire "British Invasion" in rock music in the '60s, along with Yardley of London cosmetics (I bought nothing BUT their eye makeup for years!), and Mary Quant and Jean Shrimpton who practically LIVED on American magazine covers for years, and Twiggy. All losers nobody ever heard of or was interested in, 'eh? Vivienne Westwood and Alexander McQueen and Stella McCartney, Burberry UK, Philip Treacy and those crazy much-talked-about hats. John Galliano.

Then, too, the MG (my first car, bought used and loved for years), Jaguar, Rolls Royce - the car AND the engines that power huge machinery and aircraft, Austins, the Mini-Coopers, Land Rovers, the Lotus, and more, and let's not forget the Aston Martin.

Which brings us to the arts. How 'bout the guy who drove those Aston Martins - James Bond. Gee, that was a nothing dead-end brand that nobody was interested in buying, wasn't it? The BBC and all those dramas and comedies. Mr. Bean etc. Nope, not buying any of those, are we? Monty Python - naaaah. Useless boring uninteresting failures for sure. Absolutely Fabulous? Adele? Another bunch of nobodies. From Charlie Chaplin to Alfred Hitchcock to Cary Grant to BOB HOPE. Yep, he was born in Britain, and his real first name was Leslie. Elizabeth Taylor. Hell, half the rock world is British in origin. Sean Connery, with or without 007. Colin Firth. Patrick Stewart. Emma Thompson. Kenneth Branagh (one of the best actors EVER), Alan Rickman (another one of the best actors EVER) - and speaking of which, Harry Potter Et Al. Yeah, that was a big wash-out, wasn't it - in both book stores AND theaters. Nobody gave a damn about anything some J.K. Rowling wrote, did they? And let's not forget that complete loser Will Shakespeare...

Oh yeah, and never mind that our top TV shows were all Americanized versions of BRITISH television, whether it was "All in the Family" or "American Idol." Those were BRITISH inventions.

Yeah the Brits. They got NOTHIN'. NOTHING of interest. Nobody even pays attention to those boring stuffy British royal weddings either. Nobody tuned in for any of that. Americans don't give a shit about all that pageantry. That's why nobody ever goes over as tourists to visit London or Stonehenge or Stratford-on-Avon or that big-ass Holy Grail of Golf in Scotland where tom delay and all his little friends just HAD to go on an expensive freebie junket, or anything that they got in trouble for back home. Or Irish linen, English Breakfast tea and Earl Grey tea, Irish Breakfast tea (they should all hold their tongues in romneyland, what with their teabagger bits - where do they think THAT originated???), crumpets, scones and other high tea delights, plaid, heather, English lavender and English roses, corgis, cheddar cheese, and more. The ENTIRE UK, including Ireland and Scotland and Wales. And the Empire that spawned US Americans OURSELVES!!!

WHAT AN ARROGANT ASSHOLE romney IS!!!!!! And his arrogant smug snooty wife, too. They're the quintessential Mr. and Mrs. Ugly American, if anybody ever was. Hey shitty mitty - you think Obama was going from country to country "apologizing" for America? I've got BIG news for you, asshole - we're ALL going to be going around the world apologizing for America if YOU somehow manage to buy your way into the White House.

Your cash ain't nothin' but TRASH. Just like YOU.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:43 PM

105. And my MINI

I know it's now German engineered, but it's still British built. For as long as I can drive, I don't want to drive anything else...just wish they would start shipping the diesel model over here.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:28 PM

113. And I simply couldn't do without my William and Kate tea towels!

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:30 PM

114. Aga Six- Four

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:30 AM

144. DR Harris and Truefitt & Hill...

make some of the best shaving soap and creams you can buy.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:09 PM

150. For the past 50 years, they've done TV comedy 300 times better than Americans.

A killer stream of awesomeness from the mid 60s to the 2010s.

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Response to ForgoTheConsequence (Reply #32)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:45 PM

156. England and Scotland make some of the finest audio components in the world.

Quad, Linn Sondek, Creek, Rega, Spendor, Tannoy, Exposure, and Goldring just to name a few.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:50 PM

33. Those little homes have no lifts for their car parks!

And the British don't enjoy making blokes redundant!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:52 PM

35. No words, just...

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:55 PM

36. He also says if not for divide by continent Hitler would have prevailed!

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:45 PM

68. Given the military situation in 1939-40, I'm not sure Hitler wouldn't have taken the country,

of course, if it weren't for the divide, they probably wouldn't have been spending so much of their military budget on their navy for centuries, so who knows what the situation would have looked like.

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:35 AM

127. So , if not for the Atlantic Ocean , the US would still be British colonies ?

The man is an idiot with aHarvard degree

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:28 AM

130. Or it could be that Brits stuck around to fight for their country instead of going on missions!

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:09 PM

160. That is probably true

 

The brits greatest victory at that point in the war was Dunkirk, a major evacuation.

The german army had just wiped out the much larger french forces with ease.

It's doubtful, with a land connection that Britain would have been able to hold back the Huns. They just barely managed as is.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:58 PM

37. not the right size . . . that's his ocd thing

trees . . . .

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Response to bigtree (Reply #37)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:37 PM

124. I am starting to speculate about his obsession with

the "size" of things. Hmmm.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:58 PM

38. I guess Romney never bought phonograph records during his youth

The greatest music during the '60s was coming from that little island.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:59 PM

39. Percy Faith was from England?

Who knew?

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:36 PM

102. He was probably listening to Perry Como

while everyone else was listening to Sgt. Pepper.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:04 PM

43. knr

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:05 PM

44. Mr Diplomacy...

Not ready for prime time.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:07 PM

46. Mitt is clearly referring to England post-1066. You know, the year when

 

Old Europe got all up in the Anglo-Saxons' grill?

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:07 PM

47. Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

Gold medal arrogance.

What a dipshit.

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Response to Bobbie Jo (Reply #47)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:15 PM

54. Perfect comparison!

And yes, special kind of arrogance.

I look at it this way, the Brits will love us all the more when we re-elect President Obama.

The US & UK~BFFs and stuff.

Julie

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:11 PM

49. why would he write crap like that?

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Response to Liberal_in_LA (Reply #49)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:22 PM

168. I wonder if he has the stones to admit it was ghostwritten??

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:14 PM

51. England is lucky that a body of water separates them from Romney's ambitions.

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Response to Erose999 (Reply #51)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:21 PM

57. Yeah, but you can't run for King.

So he'd still be out of luck.

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Response to hifiguy (Reply #57)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:20 AM

138. I don't think Romney would be above playing the game of thrones though.... I mean the Mormons could


probably posthumously baptize Henry VIII and make some sort of claim for the throne. I think this whole "Romney goes to London" thing is just his way of sizing up his chances.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:21 PM

56. Not so much a "leak." It's in GoogleBooks for anyone to read. Here's more:

Last edited Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:06 PM - Edit history (1)

http://books.google.com/books?id=PDpBpo5CVB4C&printsec=frontcover&dq=mitt+romney+no+apology&source=bl&ots=wGt5MR7o4i&sig=9O7kL5HZdlFWWfYQh4IfwUr_EzM&hl=en&src=bmrr&sa=X&ei=jKYRUPSQAoTerAHcwYHoCQ&ved=0CD4Q6wEwAA#v=onepage&q=mitt%20romney%20no%20apology&f=false

"China, Spain, Britain, and the Ottomans expressly or effectively retreated behind barriers to foreign trade, each convinced that competition had made them weaker. Their retreat from the marketplace of ideas and their retreat from the marketplace of goods inevitable led the their retreat from the pinnacle of leadership.” (40-41)

“…the British culture of order, organization, and rigid structure—once assets in Britain’s conquest of nations in the undeveloped world—may have prevented it from developing the risk-taking approach and entrepreneurialism critical in free markets. Culture did indeed make a difference.” (41)

“The history of leading nations that have fallen has even more to teach us, however, perhaps at a more fundamental level. In the face of evident decline, why do nations fail to act? Are there cases where nations instead have acted to halt their decline? What accounts for the difference between the two? The answers to these questions may be the most instructive because they can suggest a course of vigilance in the modern world very different from that of the Ottomans, the Spanish, the Portuguese, or even the British.” (42)

So... according to Mitt... Britain has retreated from the marketplace of ideas, they are risk-averse and are not entrepreneurial because of their rigid structure and culture, and they are a fallen nation.

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Response to Chiyo-chichi (Reply #56)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:48 PM

71. but the only people to have read the book are opposiiton researchers

so the information is kind of like a secret

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Response to Viking12 (Reply #71)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:51 PM

73. Fair enough.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:22 PM

58. Mitt the Twit is really a gift that keeps on giving, isn't he?

oh my

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:23 PM

59. To be fair, every country's houses are small compared to his 11,000

square foot places.

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #59)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:37 AM

131. Oh come on, he lived in his son's basement...

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Response to sinkingfeeling (Reply #59)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:55 PM

159. There houses are so small, they even can't fit car elevators

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:27 PM

61. I just posted that quote on the Telegraph's comment section - I suggest we all post this quote on

the comment sections of all the British newspapers and tabloids that are carrying stories about Romney. Let this story clobber Romney while he is sojourning in the U.K.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:28 PM

62. Mitt should have hired a plagiarist like GW did to write his book...

it might not have had so many gaffes.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:33 PM

63. K & R

Thanks, Grantcart

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:40 PM

64. Don't want to buy? Hell, they make something I NEED to buy: Newcastle Brown Ale



mikey_the_rat

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:41 PM

65. Duzy Award material in this thread!



What a doofus.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:45 PM

67. grantcart

grantcart

wow, and he was on a sharm offensive in the UK some claim?....

Diclotican

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:47 PM

70. what an idiot.



But at least he shares and appreciates the anglo-saxon heritage thing

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:50 PM

72. Another thing England makes that the world wants to buy: dressage saddles!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:01 PM

76. What? No dentistry gaff yet?

Have to contribute to a DUzy worthy thread.


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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:02 PM

77. So, if Romney wins . . . war with England?

Isn't that how Republicans do diplomacy?

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:04 PM

78. Does this idiot have any idea of English pride in weathering the blitz?

They were hit by bombs that took out whole blocks of buildings back when "blockbuster" wasn't a summer movie or a video rental store.



Romney would have cut a deal with Hitler to buy and sell England for quick buck.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #78)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:37 AM

145. No, he has no idea...

like many other deluded Americans, he likes to think that we swooped in like Underdog and saved the day. The Brits fought like hell until we decided to pull our heads out and join the fight.

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #145)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 03:40 PM

169. Hitler declaring war on us made that decision for us.

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Response to Spitfire of ATJ (Reply #169)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:19 PM

172. Yep...

we probably wouldn't have jumped in had he not. We would have been happy just sitting back and making money on Lend/Lease

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Response to awoke_in_2003 (Reply #172)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:08 PM

174. Not to mention the ambitions of the Right who wanted to Assassinate FDR.

That bonehead play set them back 100 years.

There's a general sense of urgency on their part. That's the only thing that explains how blatant they have been. Between SuperPacs and offering the the Tea Party as a solution to their draining the world's treasury.

Maybe they're just so far behind the times that they never got the memo about a digital age and they think that if it doesn't make it to the 6 O'clock News then it never happened.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:04 PM

79. geeze that's bad

reminds me of a kid in school that didn't study and had to make something up on the spot.
what a doofus

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:17 PM

81. re:Romney on England: "It is a small island . . doesn't make things. . the world wants to buy".

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:19 PM

83. Ah yes, chickenhawk Romney thinks he's

an expert on war, based on his extensive experiences avoiding it.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:23 PM

84. As long as he promises to protect the island of England from the Soviet Union,

he'll have all that diplomacy stuff mastered.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:27 PM

85. Romney staff offended their British hosts

by tossing a quarter at a local historian, to pay for a rat to gnaw that thing off her face.


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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:33 PM

87. oh my...how embarrassing

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:35 PM

88. Amazing. I hope the Guardian picks it up.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:48 PM

90. Well, Romney should certainly be an expert on putting out things no one wants to buy... n/t

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:53 PM

91. Hey Mitt--what language did you write your book in?

Oh yeah, Amurcan...

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 05:59 PM

92. Here it is in context

Just in case you want to be sure he's not being misinterpreted. (He's not.)

Starting near the bottom of page 39...

http://books.google.com/books?id=PDpBpo5CVB4C&lpg=PP1&pg=PA39#v=onepage&q&f=false

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:00 PM

93. Well, it has been 200 years

since we've had a war with GB. We're liable to be in another one by the time Numbnuts is done over there. What a knob!


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Response to Iterate (Reply #94)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:30 PM

100. I have emailed to the Guardian.

thanks for the update

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:14 PM

95. What is going on with this man?

Is he trying to loose? I mean, what the hell?

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Response to wendylaroux (Reply #95)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:19 PM

99. he wants to win

... not lose ...

He is not a practical candidate.

Soon others will see this aspect of this idiot. *sigh*

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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #99)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:49 PM

106. It's that CEO mentality talking. He's the chief executive. So might as well say "king."

The latter day version of absolute monarch as a "captain of industry." To whom everyone beneath him (and as CEO, that means EVERYONE is beneath him) bows and scrapes.

The CEO's word is law and no one questions it, especially since he likes firing people who serve him.

That alone leaves him extremely ill-equipped to be a public servant, which the President of the United States is.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:41 PM

103. They don't say y'all or like cheesy grits in England.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:41 PM

104. Was he hoping that Hitler invaded England?

sounds like it

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Response to Rosa Luxemburg (Reply #104)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:57 PM

108. He's with the Koch family, check out this by Thom Hartmann on MM & V. Devastating:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=44227

The transcript is there in addition to the video. Yes, Romney would have probably thought it be best if Hitler won, just like the Koch family. It's laid out so plain, it's mind boggling.

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Response to freshwest (Reply #108)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:07 PM

110. it's very worrying

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:51 PM

107. OMG this quote should be posted on the UK board. It would be delicious to hear them go at Mittens!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:02 PM

109. Watch his approval rating among Republican voters shoot up

"He sure showed those foreigners who's boss, ah hyuck hyuck".

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 08:34 PM

115. OMG!! I just saw this on The Ed Show! Grantcart sure is spreading it around! LOL!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:06 PM

116. Dear England

Ignore the Village Idiot.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:19 PM

117. that ones gonna leave a mark

"And if it hadn't been separated from the continent by water, it almost certainly would have been lost to Hitler's ambitions"

Just how ignorant can one man be? The entire British populations character and resolve was tested by Hitler and they beat him. By sheer guts and bravery and valor and determination. And an exceptionally wise and cagey Franklin Roosevelt. Churchill was pretty brilliant, also.

To attribute their WW2 victory merely to the English Channel is one hell of an insult to all British people and their forefathers.

I hope this gaffe has legs and longevity.

And remind me never to ask Mitt to help me with my history term papers.

-90% jimmy

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Response to 90-percent (Reply #117)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:43 PM

125. Mitt would've got the Hershey Squirts every time the air raid siren went off

Nobody sings it like Dame Vera Lynn:

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:48 PM

119. The Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Monty Python, Shakespeare, and too many thespians to mention...

Nah, that little island produces nothing people want to buy.....

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:54 PM

120. "Old Europe"

What if they remember our Republicans?

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:04 PM

121. Don't diss on Marshall Amps Mitwit

Maybe they aren't made there anymore but it was the birthplace.

man what moran!

-p

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Response to Phlem (Reply #121)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:53 AM

134. Better amps are still made in the UK.

I have a friend from Australia who came here specifically so that he could make guitar amps. Check out Matamp and Hayden. They both blow Marshall out of the water. Laney still makes some of their amps in the UK as well. There are other companies I'm forgetting as well, of course.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #134)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:25 PM

153. I bought a Marshall 100 watt stack in London in 1968

at the Rose Morris Showroom on Shaftesbury Avenue. Great amp. I listened to pretty much all the amps they had including the sounds I heard from groups using them live in clubs and I thought Marshalls just had that crisp, crunchy sound like Hendrix got that you couldn't get with any other amp. I tried Laney, Orange, Hi-Watt, Sound City, Wem and I couldn't get that Marshall sound from anything else. The Vox AC 30 was a cool amp for its crisp crystalline sound and portability but it just didn't do it either. I had a U.S. made Sunn with two cabinets and that didn't give me that sound either, although Hendrix went through a period of using Sunn amps instead of Marshalls. I guess it depends on what sound texture you like.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #153)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:42 PM

155. It depends on the specific amp model and year as well.

Some of those companies used the same manufacturers at times, some manufacturers switched factories, etc. I know that early Orange amps were made by Matamp, and I think there was some overlap between Orange and Marshall at some point, as far as manufacturing goes.

Do you still have that Marshall? I hope for your sake you do.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #155)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:25 PM

161. Unfortunately, I experienced a financial crisis in about 1980

and I had no choice but to sell the Sunn stack, the Marshall stack, along with a pre-CBS strat and telecaster, 1961 Gibson ES 335, vintage Gibson Les Paul Special with the P-90s, and vintage Epiphone Broadway. I even had to get rid of my beautiful 1960 Jaguar Mark II 3.8 sedan. I had no idea that collectors would one day put these things out of reach. They were very affordable when I originally bought them. The store in London gladly took 6 crisp $100 bills US for the Marshall stack when I bought it new.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #161)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:42 PM

162. I'm sorry to hear that.

The pricing of vintage instruments has become insane.

When I was first getting into music in the late 80's and early 90's, 70's and early 80's Fenders were seen as junk and were still really affordable. Now those same guitars are sought-after. It used to be that people wanted pre-CBS or nothing. Now, pre-CBS fenders are out of the price-range of even most pro musicians, unless they're of the wealthy sort.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #162)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:49 PM

163. It is nuts

I paid $100 for the used pre-CBS telecaster when I bought it at a music store in Georgia in 1966. Good guitar. It wasn't considered collectible back then. Back then, a high school kid mowing lawns could afford a real good guitar. Nowadays, a kid mowing lawns can afford a piece of crap made in China.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #163)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:08 PM

166. I wish I would have had musicians in my family to give me some guidance at that time.

My first bass I got in '89 was a piece of crap made in who-knows-where. By the time I replaced it a year or two later, one tuner was falling apart, and it had serious gouges in the frets. Still, that bass - a Kramer - isn't worth squat now. For about that same price, I could have got a 10 year old USA fender, which would be worth double to triple now. *sigh* live and learn.

I really want a new guitar now, but I'm holding out until I can afford the vintage gibson that I really want, because I know that it won't go down in value, and if it's lasted 50 years, it will last 50 more just fine. Neither are likely true of many new guitars.

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Response to harmonicon (Reply #134)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 12:40 AM

175. Yes

but I'v never heard of those so I'll have to check them out, Yeay! Like a kid in a toy store. I bought Marshall DSL100 JCM 2000 A while ago and it sits on a Laney top cab. It is just sweet, even w/o effects!

I'm clueless as to where they were manufactured.



-p

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Response to Phlem (Reply #121)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:34 AM

139. Hiwatt and Vox too.

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Response to Erose999 (Reply #139)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:05 PM

165. Back in the day I had a Vox Berkeley II with a Beatle bottom.

 

The bottom had 4 - "12s and 2 midrange horns. This along with a Gibson SG standard. I could retire on that stuff now!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:18 PM

122. And yet........

he is quite happy to take their money.

Romney, has any Brit called you a wanker yet? Because they should.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:26 AM

126. They also make the best jet engines in the business

Thousands of airliners flying with Rolls Royce engines. Rugged and reliable.


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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:19 AM

128. That is bloody insulting as fuck!!

I hope that gets sent across the pond for them to print so they can show the citizens what are repuke fuckwads are saying about them.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:26 AM

129. I certainly want to buy a Dallas Rangemaster and the chair that Christine Keeler sat in

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:38 AM

132. "...doesn't make things. . the world wants to buy".

Yes, like your bullshit!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 06:11 AM

135. Does Gov. Romney even know that England is NOT an island? It is located on one of the British Isles

which it shares with Wales and Scotland. There is no island of England. If this was an innocent comment by a tourist stumbling around Piccadilly Circus - it would be a forgivable faux pas. But this geographic ignorance in a book written by the potential leader of the free world?

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Response to Douglas Carpenter (Reply #135)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 05:17 PM

171. I am reminded of Sarah Palin's comment about the "country" of Africa. nt

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 09:38 AM

140. The quote is now mentioned in a ForeignPolicy blog!

"Romney book: Britain is a tiny island that makes stuff nobody wants"

http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2012/07/26/romney_book_britain_is_a_tiny_island_that_makes_stuff_nobody_wants

A gaffe seldom has legs or lasting impact in an election, but such an idiotic and easily refuted claim written by a candidate is a whole 'nother animal riding on the roof. "No Apology" just makes him known as proudly careless, incompetent, and willfully dumb.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:45 AM

146. I'm gonna hear about this all week from my English friends!

Thanks Mr Rmoney, for once again making Americans look bad.
The book is called "no apology?". Should be called "no brains".

No wonder the English think he's an asshole. He can't write worth a damn and act polite in public.

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Response to agentS (Reply #146)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:47 AM

147. That racist quote about Obama from RMoney's aide last week- I certainly believe it now!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 11:56 AM

148. I am hoping that Mitt's visit to Poland produces something classic

I'll be disappointed if there isn't a little verbal slapstick!

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:07 PM

149. Bain Companies in England

 

How much money is Romey/Ann/Blind Trusts etc making from all of the Bain properties in England? It is very time consuming to try to figure all this out.Romeny needs to once and for all list all of the companies he has monetary interests in all over the world.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:20 PM

151. So, in a nutshell:

"Ann and I really appreciate our Anglo-Saxon heritage. Oh, and by the way: you suck."

-- Mal

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:22 PM

152. Oh now THAT'S funny

 

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 12:53 PM

158. And while Britain was fighting Hitler, your family was....?

When Britain and the Commonwealth Nations were standing up alone to Hitler during 1940-41, where was Romney's family? Weren't they hiding out in Mexico so they could have a few wives?

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 02:15 PM

167. I'll take a half-dozen of these, please:

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 08:27 AM

176. He must have got a shock watching the Olympic Ceremony

He clearly didn't realise GB is the country of the Industrial Revolution...He saw a country with innovaction, creativity, culture, tolerance, that is self-mocking, humourous with Conservatives that want to legalise Gay Marriage and support Obama, because they think Mitt is a dim wit.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 10:42 AM

177. He's an educated man who thinks the rest of the world is made up of idiots.

So while he is dumbing things down for us, he only makes himself look like a fool.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Sat Jul 28, 2012, 06:32 PM

180. I don't understand why he'd go out of his way to insult a long time ally like that.

Surely he could pursue the support of his knuckledragging supporters without insulting friends.

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