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Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:46 AM

P.M. Cameron to Willard: It's easier holding Olympics 'in the middle of nowhere'

(Nice going Willard--antagonizing your host country on your first day!)

"We are holding an Olympic Games in one of the busiest, most active, bustling cities anywhere in the world. Of course it's easier if you hold an Olympic Games in the middle of nowhere."

-- British Prime Minister David Cameron, quoted by the Daily Telegraph, slapping back at suggestions from Mitt Romney that Britain wasn't prepared for the 2012 Olympic games.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/07/26/quote_of_the_day.html

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Reply P.M. Cameron to Willard: It's easier holding Olympics 'in the middle of nowhere' (Original post)
WI_DEM Jul 2012 OP
KurtNYC Jul 2012 #1
sadbear Jul 2012 #2
bermudat Jul 2012 #3
WI_DEM Jul 2012 #5
snooper2 Jul 2012 #7
KurtNYC Jul 2012 #8
malaise Jul 2012 #42
DearAbby Jul 2012 #9
Motown_Johnny Jul 2012 #26
greatauntoftriplets Jul 2012 #29
DevonRex Jul 2012 #10
nichomachus Jul 2012 #11
DevonRex Jul 2012 #31
Aviation Pro Jul 2012 #15
argyl Jul 2012 #25
xxqqqzme Jul 2012 #27
WCGreen Jul 2012 #40
xxqqqzme Jul 2012 #41
KurtNYC Jul 2012 #32
DevonRex Jul 2012 #34
Aviation Pro Jul 2012 #38
DevonRex Jul 2012 #43
Scootaloo Jul 2012 #16
uponit7771 Jul 2012 #19
SidDithers Jul 2012 #20
Alduin Jul 2012 #21
TwilightGardener Jul 2012 #37
liberal N proud Jul 2012 #39
JoePhilly Jul 2012 #4
Spazito Jul 2012 #6
Aviation Pro Jul 2012 #17
MicaelS Jul 2012 #24
DevonRex Jul 2012 #36
LynneSin Jul 2012 #23
Spazito Jul 2012 #33
Cali_Democrat Jul 2012 #12
Comrade_McKenzie Jul 2012 #13
Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2012 #30
flamingdem Jul 2012 #14
grantcart Jul 2012 #18
LynneSin Jul 2012 #22
Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #28
Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2012 #35

Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 11:58 AM

1. So now Utah is "the middle of nowhere" ?

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:03 PM

2. Relatively speaking.

Yeah.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:04 PM

3. Yes.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:07 PM

5. compared to London, yes.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:08 PM

7. Yes, it is, Ever been there?

LOL

same thing as when you are driving along for hours and all of a sudden BAM, oh look it's Albuquerque-

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:22 PM

8. I get Cameron's point completely -- but I am enjoying watching the "special relationship"

take a beating.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #8)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:56 PM

42. It's freaking delish

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:25 PM

9. *snarf

Look a clump of trees, all the right height! There has to be a town under it!!

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:47 PM

26. Utah is a beautiful state

New Mexico is nice too

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Response to snooper2 (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:48 PM

29. I've never been to Salt Lake City....

but I have been to London many times. One of the best cities that I have ever visited.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:34 PM

10. Compared to London, perhaps. Nt

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:41 PM

11. Compared to just about anywhere. Have you been to Utah? n/t

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Response to nichomachus (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:50 PM

31. I live next door.

Just being gentle to our Utah DUers.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:05 PM

15. Travel I-70 west past Grand Junction, CO....

....the statement is true.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:39 PM

25. No shit.200 miles to the next gas station.On an Interstate,no less.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:47 PM

27. Driving through Utah

is just plain creepy. hours of nothing - not even weeds!

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Response to xxqqqzme (Reply #27)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:25 PM

40. I took the Grey Dog across country back in '79...

I have to say, coming out of the mountains and seeing Salt Lake City spread out in endless lights against the blackness around was spectacular.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #40)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:55 PM

41. we were there in July in daylight!

Desert cities look amazing at night because they are jewels against the darkness...I lived in the socal desert for 10 years and loved it.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:52 PM

32. Again I agree. I love that Romney thought he was going to cozy up and get his

"foreign policy" experience card punched but wound up having a very public spat with the UK.

Cameron publicly shooting back at Romney is 180 degrees from what Romney wanted on this trip. And the UK was supposed to be the easy one on this trip; the warm-up if you will. Can't wait to hear Romney's gaffes in Isreal !

I am for Romney's response or next gaffe but I see from the responses to my post that I should have been more clear.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #15)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:58 PM

34. An interstate that ends for no good reason in Utah. Nt

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Response to DevonRex (Reply #34)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:16 PM

38. There is a good reason...

...south I-15 to Vegas, baby.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #38)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:46 PM

43. Yeah. There is that. We did find an Applebee's

which served giant salads once on I-15 in Utah. Better than the same one here.



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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:07 PM

16. Well, aside from Salt lake city... yeah

I mean, just look at downtown Provo;


The word "Utah" in fact comes from an old Paiute word meaning "Nobody's there, dude"

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #16)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:18 PM

19. Nice looking pic, I love the scenery of the west, colors etc...but yeah...nothing there

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:20 PM

20. Compared to London?...nt

Sid

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:20 PM

21. Compared to London, yes, it is.

 

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:10 PM

37. I thought the whole reason Brigham Young said "This is the place!" was because

he looked down over the valley and thought "No one else will want to live in this barren shithole...we'll take it!"

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:22 PM

39. Ever been to Utah?

Nothing for miles and miles. NOTHING!



It may be beautiful country but there is not much reason for to live there.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:05 PM

4. Bwahahahaha!!!

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:07 PM

6. Oh my, Rmoney stepped in it yet again...

I love Cameron's retort back to him, perfect and very true as well.

Population of London: 7.7 million (March 2011)

Population of Salt Lake City: 181,743 (2012)

Population of Salt Lake Area: 1.2 million

Population of Utah: 2.9 million

Yep, relative to numbers, Cameron is right on point on this, imo.

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Response to Spazito (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:08 PM

17. And these numbers are a problem....

...from the electoral standpoint of view. Why should such a sparsely populated state have two senators where one would suffice? Also, why five electoral votes where two would also suffice for a population that's 1% of the U.S.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:38 PM

24. Because then the large urban areas would rule the country

And people outside the large urban areas are not going to permit that.

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Response to Aviation Pro (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 03:00 PM

36. Prairie dogs vote too you know!!!

Oh, wait...

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Response to Spazito (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:35 PM

23. And the SUmmer Olympics has 4 times the Athletes with 5 times the sporting events

Just the logicistics of hosting all those team events - finding enough fields to host your baseball & soccer events is crazy. Most Olympics usually farm some of those games out to other nearby cities.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:57 PM

33. You make an excellent point...

For the 2010 Winter Olympics held in Vancouver and area approximately 2,600 athletes from 82 nations participated in 86 events in fifteen disciplines.

For the 2008 Summer Olympics held in Beijing a total of 11,028 athletes from 204 National Olympic Committees (NOCs) competed in 28 sports and 302 events.

Vast difference in numbers between them.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:57 PM

12. Slap!!!

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:58 PM

13. A stiff like Romney is not prepared for the wrath of British wit. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:49 PM

30. That was my first reaction.

Mitt probably had to be told that was an insult.

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:59 PM

14. Willard will be a bloody stump by the end of his junket! nt

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:16 PM

18. Its also a lot more difficult holding the Summer Olympics than the Winter


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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:33 PM

22. And remember the Salt Lake City Olympics was Winter - much smaller than Summer

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_Olympic_Games#List_of_Games

Salt Lake City: 2500 Atheletes from 77 Countries participating in 78 games (from 7 different sports).

Beijing (No London # yet): 11,000 Atheletes from 204 Countries participating in 302 games (from 28 different sports).

Think about the hosting logistics. For Winter the main thing you need is a decent mountain that gets a good amount of snow - that covers your skiing events. You need to build the Slides/Jump for Bobsled & Luge & Ski Jumping. You need enough rinks to cover Hockey (the only team sport), Figure Skating and Speed Skating. And you need a wide open space for the cross-country events. Any major city near a major mountain range probably already has at least 1 major arena. So if you have the mountains and the arena, the rest is pretty doable.

Summer Olympics is crazy organizing. First you have massive amounts of team sports both indoors and out such as Volleyball, Basketball, Baseball, Softball, Soccer and Field Hockey. You need to have a decent river for your rowing events and near the ocean/large sea for yatching/sailing events. You need an olympic size pool, regulation field & track and venues for gymnastics. You need 4 times the housing as the Winter Olympics and and probably 4 times as many hotel availablity.

Sure, a city like London could never host the Winter Olympics but only because London is not near a mountain nor is it a snowy region. But then again you could never really consider a city like Salt Lake for the Summer Olympics.

So Mitt needs to shut his yapper.

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Response to LynneSin (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:48 PM

28. I'll add that many 2002 events took place an hour away from SLC...

"The Salt Lake Olympic area formed a ring of five connecting cities, with the Salt Lake metropolitan area as the central and most prominent feature.

This Olympic area was approximately 113 km (70 miles) long and 80 km (50 miles) wide. Each of the venues were within a 10 to 60 minute drive from the Olympic Village, which was located on the campus of the University of Utah in Salt Lake City."
http://www.utah.com/olympics/venues/

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Response to WI_DEM (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:59 PM

35. Gaffes every hour now

Romney can see the Olympics from the backside of 10 Downing St in London

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