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Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:32 PM

 

Romney Advisor: 'Obama doesn't appreciate the ANGLO-SAXON heritage we share with Great Britain.'

What the London Daily Telegraph calls one of Romney’s “advisors” told the paper that Romney was better positioned to understand and respect the ‘special relationship’ between the US and Great Britain than President Obama, whose father was from Kenya.

Said the advisor: “We are part of an Anglo-Saxon heritage, and he feels that the special relationship is special. The White House didn’t fully appreciate the shared history we have.”

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/07/romney_camp_mitt_will_bring_a_white_mans_touch.php?ref=fpblg

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:33 PM

1. Dog whistle

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:40 PM

9. Dog whistle my ass...

that's a fuckin' bullhorn.

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Response to one_voice (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:40 AM

50. I say, did you hear something?

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Response to one_voice (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:53 AM

81. Dumbass RMoney doesn't know his history. The Brits ESTABLISHED KENYA.

So between Obama's white Anglo Saxon mama, and his Kenyan heritage, he's got a closer relationship to GB than that guy who's daddy's name was "Chihuahua George" could ever hope to have.

Jesus, people are fucking stooooopid, aren't they?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya

The British Empire established the East Africa Protectorate in 1895, from 1920 known as the Kenya Colony.



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Response to MADem (Reply #81)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:21 AM

143. Not to mention Obama's extensive pedigree on his mom's side:

"Obama shares a common descent from King Edward I of England, King Henry III of England, King John Lackland of England, King Henry II of England, King Henry I of England, King William I of England (i.e. William "the Conqueror"0, Count Baldwin of Flanders and his daughter Matilda, Kinng Robert Capet I of France, King Louis I of France, and Charlemagne. Obama also shares a common descent with former President George Washington with Halfdan, King of Denmark and Sweden and Woden Oden. Obama also shares a common descent through Richard Eltonhead with Queen Elizabeth of Great Britain. "

http://​genealogyofpresidents.blogs​pot.com/

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Response to one_voice (Reply #9)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:14 PM

157. yeah... we can ALL hear that just fine.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:36 AM

71. Not really a dog whistle. That's just a baldfaced appeal to race, and a casting of

minorities as "others".

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:46 AM

101. criticizing our commander in chief ON FOREIGN SOIL!!1!!

Expect the rightwing to organize a Dixie Chicks boycott a week from never

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:51 AM

102. "Mr Stewart, you're on in 5."

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:58 AM

151. Codespeak for WHITE Anglo-Saxon Protestant

"... an informal term, often derogatory or disparaging, for a closed group of high-status Americans mostly of British Protestant ancestry. The term implies this group wields disproportionate financial and social power." (from Wikipedia)

So, Romney's a Mormon but you still get the idea ... as a wealthy white guy I understand what moves this world far more than that black guy who's currently in the White House.

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Response to chemenger (Reply #151)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:38 PM

163. Times change and whites have seen their glory pass.

"as a wealthy white guy I understand what moves this world"

Not a healthy attitude, even if you "understand" it. I disagree, many black people have shown their power, Kofi Annon, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King, and now the most powerful man on earth Barack Obama. Times change and whites have seen their glory pass.

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Response to Mosaic (Reply #163)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:40 PM

167. Thank God! - n/t

 

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Response to Mosaic (Reply #163)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:11 PM

186. I think that the poster above was paraphrasing Romney's advisor, not their own views.

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Response to nadinbrzezinski (Reply #1)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:25 PM

160. More like a fucking air-raid siren

They really have nothing left - not even shame.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:34 PM

2. The sheriff is near!

 

Why not just say what you really mean asshole?

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:40 PM

6. That would require guts, something Mitt Romney lacks.

That's why that garbage job was given to the so called Romney adviser (or whomever).

So, just to get this straight, he not only prefers to hide behind/under a woman's skirt, he sends the London media racist shit messages via a cabana boy.

That's some real courageous manmeat right there.

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Response to nc4bo (Reply #6)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:21 AM

89. Thats a bald face lie, Mitt has plenty of guts.

He gutted enough factories and outsourced their jobs overseas after all.

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:06 AM

28. +1!

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Response to MrSlayer (Reply #2)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:30 AM

69. .



"Why not just say what you really mean asshole?"

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:35 PM

3. What a P.O.S.!!!

He can have his 'special relationship!'

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:37 PM

4. WTF?

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:39 PM

5. LOL

That was my initial reaction

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Response to CatWoman (Reply #5)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:38 AM

140. I am stunned that he would say that- I mean actually say it out loud...

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Response to Marrah_G (Reply #140)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:18 PM

158. The GOP base loves it, it fires them up. It's a good start for the trip for them.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:40 PM

7. Has Romney seen Obama's mom, who raised him along with her parents?

But whatever, what he said is still offensive as hell. What did he mean, "you know, we're all white folks here . . . "

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:40 PM

8. Racist SOB

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:42 PM

10. and neither do the ethnic white people who make up a larger part of America than the Anglos.

What a self deluded jerk.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:45 PM

11. WTF??? He really said that? Like in front of someone? That is utterly racist.

The MSM needs to OUT that guy for this.

Did he think no one would fucking hear about that? The media in the UK is not all a bunch of useless corporate toadies like the US.

After re-reading the article, it becomes VERY VERY clear. They are going for the "he's not one of US!" Palin attacks. These horrid "he woudn't want to sing Land of Hope and Glory." Why don't they just get it over with?? Why beat about the bush? Say it... He's not WHITE. There we said it.

I swear to God, I thought the Bush campaign was the worst. Romney's people are the absolute most disgusting and hateful of all. At least Bush let outsiders be the evil ones... Romney's own people are just absolute racist pieces of shit. Sorry.. but this is pissing me off. Romney cannot run on his record.. he refuses to release those returns or ANYTHING, and the MSM has moved past that and not asking anymore. So instead the pig is attacking our President, and calling for the racist haters.

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Response to progressivebydesign (Reply #11)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:53 PM

172. The article states that one of Rmormon's advisors said it.

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:46 PM

12. Whoah!

OMG. Rmoney should fire this person. What a stupid thing to say. No excuse for this whatsoever.

And as usual, false. Obama understands all of it just fine.

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Response to treestar (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:49 PM

15. He'll retroactively fire him after he loses the election. nt

 

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Reply #15)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:14 AM

36. No, Romney will resign from his campaign just before losing

I didn't lose the 2012 election. In fact, I left a month before that happened.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:46 PM

13. OMG - what a fucking racist

and he is fucking wrong.

Kenya probably has more anglo-saxon blood than America does - after all it was one of the colonies. Snark.

Really Anglo-Saxon - that is so 11th Century!!

England was invaded in 1066 by the Normans. Many Brits are like me - if you go back far enough we have such mixed ancestry we are true mutts - proud mutts, but mutts all the same - and we don't want any special relationships with the likes of Rmoney.

As for Churchill's bust - that was returned to Britain via the diplomats - is Romney going to start another war to get it back from the Brits?

Of course, the meeting of the minds - Romney, Cameron, Miliband Blair - what a waste of fucking air.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:47 PM

14. Dudes, have you seen Obama he's black he couldn't possibly understand.

Someone tell Mittens it is too late to go crawling back to England to get back under crown rule. I don't even know what he is talking about as far as the special relationship. Last I checked Hawaii really is part of the US, sounds like Romney is putting in a jab on Hawaii as well. Of course this all ignores the fact that Obama has spent several years in the continental US as well. My take away from all this is that Obama has been subjected to far more cultures than Romney's only having to mingle with uber rich people for most of his life. It must have been hell for him in his formative years not having amassed the wealth he has. Probably felt poor next to the kids that had parents with the kind of wealth he has now, I bet he truly felt under privileged.

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Response to Kalidurga (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:55 PM

21. the romneys are from England

they came to the states in the 1800's

perhaps he is planning to go back ........ one can hope

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #21)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:43 AM

76. More recently the Romneys are from MEXICO

Mitt's family LEFT the US because his great grandfather was a religious extremist who did not want to follow the rest of the Mormon church and give up polygamy. Mitt still has relatives in Mexico - I am not sure if they still practice polygamy or if they are still religious extremists.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #76)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:55 AM

82. And the Kenya Colony was established by the BRITISH EMPIRE (see link upthread). nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #82)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:59 AM

84. Yes - True!

But that just gives fuel to the birthers who claim that Obama should have British citizenship, not American. I have not figured out how that would work under any law but some of the seem to believe it.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #84)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:12 AM

87. Well, Winston Churchill's mama was an AMERICAN....RMoney's daddy was a MEXICAN...

I just can't take all this poutrage. The Rmoney campaign needs to get off that horse if they know what's good for them!

I think it totally jumped the shark when John "Ass Grabbing Pervert" Sununu, born in HAVANA CUBA, had the 'cojones' (gotta speak to him in a language he understands-/snark) to suggest that Obama was insufficiently American!

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Response to csziggy (Reply #76)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:44 PM

168. Pinche Romney (shout out to any Latinos of Mexican ancestry

 

on the forum and anyone who understands Mexican idiomatic Spanish slang

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Response to csziggy (Reply #76)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:49 PM

170. I was wondering about that. How could George Romney have become a pillar in the LDS Church

when he was born into a breakaway sect that the mainstream LDS Church officially disavows?

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #21)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:41 PM

178. The British Empire paled when compared to those of Alexander of Macedonia or to Rome

The Romans had paved roads and running water while the English were fighting over who got the deer hide. Our country is based upon the Roman model, NOT the British Monarchy. I see more kinship with Rome than Britain.

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Response to Drahthaardogs (Reply #178)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:41 PM

185. Britain was a huge part of the Roman Empire

The Romans built roads, amphitheaters, Hadrian's wall and if you've ever been to Bath (Roman name: Acqua Sulius) it has ruins that remind you of many places in the Med. the Brits took Roman law, and passed a lot of it down to us. Even Great Britain is its Roman name.

The REAL Brits--the native ones who were invaded first by Romans, then by every last Euro tribe before the French finally got em in 1066--are the Celts. Scots, Irish, Welsh and Cornish, the last lands they inhabit in the UK. They got pushed to the edges, and discriminated against, like all natives conquered by invaders. But to address your point, if we are descendants of the Roman Empire, we are So by way of our British overlords from 250 years ago.

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Response to pink-o (Reply #185)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:13 PM

190. I would not call Roma-Britania HUGE

but yes, the Romans conquered much of what is now Great Britain Even the Irish patron saint, St. Patrick, was Welsh by birth but Roman by blood, the son of a Roman Officer and his wealthy wife. The same Celts were also prevalent in the Lombard region of Italy, only to be overcome by the Roman empire. Roman soldiers went to Spain to retire. Romans built the Church in France, Greece, Constantinople and Rome. The south of France was once part of Italy, as were portions of modern day Austria. To claim that Anglo Saxons were our greatest influence is silly.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:49 PM

16. I thought they were going to respect the president while abroad?

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Response to WI_DEM (Reply #16)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:40 AM

126. haHAHAHAHhahahahaha

silly rabbit, that's only for US when THEIR guy gets to be Pres.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:50 PM

17. NPR reported this morning that Romney wasn't going to go after the Pres. at all while overseas -

apparently, he's leaving all of that to his slimy henchmen.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:51 PM

18. The romney camp has cornered the world's supply of stupid pills

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Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #18)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:43 AM

53. And by "cornered" do you mean

"swallowed" ?

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Response to demwing (Reply #53)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:30 AM

118. Crushed 'em up and

snorted them, by all indications.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:51 PM

19. Way to alienate MOST of the United States.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:01 AM

24. Exactly!

What an idiot. I hope the press has a field day with the remark.



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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:27 AM

42. The base will love this tasteless comment

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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #42)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:33 AM

44. Problem is, he doesn't need to woo the base. He needs to woo the rest.

Independents, "the middle of the road" voters, etc.

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Response to Lex (Reply #44)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:59 AM

60. Actually, he does need to woo the base

The bigoted twits are still uncertain about his being a Mormon, after all.

Romney's in an interesting position, where the only people who might support him right now are "moderate Republicans." All... nine? Ten of them? His own religion and lack of Populist Party Bus field trips are costing him with "the base" (can't really call them extreme if they make up the foundation of hte GOP) and he's been totally unable to connect with the Last-Minute-His-Hair-Looks-Nice voters (i.e., "independents")

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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #42)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:39 AM

74. I doubt the base knows what Anglo-Saxon is.

"White", sure-- but Anglo-Saxon? That's one o' them gymnasium words.

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Response to FarLeftFist (Reply #19)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:01 AM

148. and a whole chunk of the UK too.

Kind of forgetting the contributions that the rest of the UK has given the world, including America.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:54 PM

20. the special relationship is special

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Response to Generic Other (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:42 AM

75. +1

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:55 PM

22. Using that rationale, John F. Kennedy was the worst choice for President ever made. . .

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:39 AM

141. LOL!

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #22)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:45 AM

145. Well, the Brits weren't in love with his daddy as Ambassador, but they did develop a fondness for

the Ambassador's charming kids.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 11:55 PM

23. WTF???

Holy crap!

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:02 AM

25. Uh. Mah. Gah.

For fucking serious?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:02 AM

26. Would that be the same "Anglo-Saxon heritage"

that the U.S. colonies REBELLED AGAINST in 1776?


rocktivity

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #26)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:07 AM

29. Thank you.

If this Romney advisor had been heard by the actual founding fathers, they would have hung him.

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Response to rocktivity (Reply #26)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:37 AM

138. ah, harumph, well, yes.. the late um.. unpleastantness

Well, it didn't really last very long, and put up against subsequent conflicts, the death toll was really insignificant...

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:03 AM

27. Yeah, he's probably right - seeing as how Obama is part Irish from his mother's side. Ask the Irish

how much they appreciate the Anglo-Saxon heritage of Great Britain...

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #27)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:12 AM

34. Well - it appears Romney has the Orange vote all sewn up.

Stunning!

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #27)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:00 AM

85. not only the Irish, Cornish, Welsh and Scots.

 

Aren't Anglo Saxon. WASP Rmoney didn't know that.

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Response to Sea-Dog (Reply #85)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:58 PM

192. really.... I was thinking his comment may not play well with many portions of his own base

and alienates immigrant Americans whose heritage doesnt include a good, or special.relationship with Anglo Saxons
lose more new votes than win
cuz they already had most of the racist vote in their hand

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:08 AM

30. BREAKING NEWS FROM ROMNEY CAMPAIGN: OBAMA IS BLACK!!!

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #30)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:51 AM

55. O'BAMA IS ALSO HALF CELTIC

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #55)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:57 AM

83. His KENYAN ancestors were also BRITISH.

The British Empire established the East Africa Protectorate in 1895, from 1920 known as the Kenya Colony. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Kenya

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #55)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:39 PM

177. I have to disagree with the Celtic comment.

See post 121 below. Muriel Volestrangler has a his ethnicity per centages there. And Celts definitely have a presence in alot of peoples, but, a 50 per cent one may be a bit ambitious for England proper.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:08 AM

31. whoah..........

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:09 AM

32. How does Mexico qualify?

Mitt's daddy was born there.

I hope other countries have a chance to tell the world what they think of Rmoney.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:10 AM

33. interesting, I don't have an anglo saxon heritage either. A bunch of us dont.

(but I do have some great friends in the UK.)

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Response to robinlynne (Reply #33)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:36 AM

96. I bet most of the US doesn't

There were large migrations of Germans throughout the 19th century, and massive migrations from south and eastern Europe in the late 19th/early 20th. Not to mention the people with African, Asian, Pacific Islander, Central American, Native American, etc. ancestry. Obama has a lot more British - and English - ancestry than I do.

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Response to Retrograde (Reply #96)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:44 PM

159. exactly. to call our heritage Anglo-SAxon is to not know what country you are in.....

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:14 AM

35. Blow that dog whistle all you want, I'm not getting on the roof of the car. n/t

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #35)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:23 AM

40. nice

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Response to gkhouston (Reply #35)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:36 AM

124. Not even to piss on it?

LOL! Good one!

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:19 AM

37. Gee, what was the "heritage" that our super-white ancestors share


... that Obama wouldn't "appreciate?"

"We're not ... you know ... anti-colonialist."

That's actually some profoundly ugly stuff, and no one will call him on it.



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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:19 AM

38. Wait. I thought Romney was Mexican.

Wasn't his father born in Mexico?

At least Obama's father was born in a part of the British empire



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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:22 AM

39. The heretic Romney, Baron of Bain, has revealed his ignorant and craven nature...

Perhaps he must be reminded of the fate of his good King Harold...



I'm William the Conqueror, and I approve of this message.

:p

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Response to renegade000 (Reply #39)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:21 AM

131. renegade000

renegade000

To be fair - Old Harold was Norwegian by birth - and at one time also the Norwegian King under the name Harald Haaråde (Harald the hard Ruler, as he was rather brutal to subject his lesser ones) William The Concur was a normanner - another who from the age of Gange Rolv was made duke of Normandy (and Gange rolv was also a Norwegian who was given the land, and the title of Duke, by the french King, in return for protecting the french Kingdom from the vikings. Who they did - and even managed to get their own married in to the royal family at one point... And was promised the kingdom of England (this wa long before the United Kingdom was made possible, and England was a rather poor parts of Europe)

But in all, William the bastard (as he also was known, as he was born outside of marriage, something that was BAD by the standards of the age.. (even though many dukes and even kings had more kids outside of marriage than in marriage!) got the upper hand, as he had the more advanced army - and was more cunning in playing the game. And he was maybe even more stubborn to get what he wanted than Harold was...

And as many english says " its 1066 and all that"... The year when England shanged more than it was doing since the romans left the island to fend for themself... And a whole new world, the continental world was coming to England..

Diclotican

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #131)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:31 PM

161. Diclotican, I think that you mean "William the Conqueror."

And "changed."

Okay, that's your free English language lesson for today.

And thanks for posting.

From your Swedish *and* anglo-saxon friend.

Amanda

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #161)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:51 PM

171. amandabeech

amandabeech

Yeah I meant William The Conqueror - dam the bastard language of english Half French, Half Latin and then some anglo-saxon into the mix. Not easy to write when you are not native to it, Or not using it all the time - and yes I did took it true the spelling check - otherwise it would have been FAR worse than it is...

Ah, you are swedish. Good to se some swedish here to, a fellow scandinavian so to say..

Diclotican

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #171)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:47 PM

174. I'm one quarter Swedish American. I don't mean to mis-represent myself.

IJ'm also probably at least one quarter Anglo-Saxon (English) with a generous helping of Irish, and a little Scottish.

I don't, however, like Rmoney one bit.

I did visit Sweden 15 years ago, and thought it very, very nice. I was actually able to meet a distant family member. Unfortunately, he passed a few years ago.

I expect to visit Sweden once again when I make it to retirement age.

Again, it was a lovely country and I felt quite at home.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #174)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:20 PM

184. amandabeech

amandabeech

I see.). Oh wel I guess I wil survive that too..

Full blooded Norwigian here - or at least as long back as the paper trail goes (back to the mid 1300s in fact )

No I have some serious doubts about Mitt Romney - something is really fishy with that man...

Many things have shanged in Sweden over the last 15-20 years.. But for the most part, Sweden is what Sweden have allways been

Diclotican

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #184)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 12:37 AM

193. Well, I'd like to do the Fjords some time. They look awesome.

I also met some Norwegian folks vacationing at the Stockholm Water Festival that was going on when I was in Stockholm. Really nice, friendly people.

Could you briefly summarize what has changed? You may PM me if you like.

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #193)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:03 AM

194. amandabeech

amandabeech

Well, the fjords of Norway is nice - and majestic.. We might not have all the great beaches in the world, but we got the best up here in Norway in all

And we still is rather friendly, both the swedish and Norwegians for the most part. And the Stockholm Water Festival is great to visit - even though I have never been there myself, I have been told it is a lot of fun. And a lot of nice friendly people

Some thing have changed, but for the most part I think both Norwegians and Sweds is like it have always been - specially outside the bigger city's where thing is little less in the fast lane.. But If I have to say something. I think swedes is little less rich than they was 15-20 year ago - or it is just we in Norway who is gotten little richer.. Im not sure....

Diclotican

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Response to Diclotican (Reply #194)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:43 PM

197. Thanks, Diclotican.

Outside the big cities here, life "is little less in the fast lane."

I live in the Washington, D.C., area and worked in Manhattan for nine years, but I grew up in a tiny town in the Midwest. Life was much slower there and still is. Actually, there were quite a few people who were at least partially of Scandinavian descent. Of my best friends, one was all Swedish heritage, one was one quarter of the same, and the other was half Norwegian. Sometimes I wonder if some cultural ideas survive even three generations here in the U.S., because it is unusual in an ethnically mixed area to have close friends of the same or similar background.

I wonder if increased Norwegian wealth has to do with your oil and gas production. Mineral extraction can really help an economy. States here with coal, oil and gas did well while the extraction continues. All I can say is don't spend all the money at once! But then I expect that Norway is being wise with its wealth.

I look forward to more posts from you!

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Response to amandabeech (Reply #197)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:42 PM

198. amandabeech

amandabeech

I see, well you know, many americans have heritage from one of the scandinavian country's, it was a lot of of our ancestors who decided it was better to emigrate to USA, the land of honey and milk as my grandfather fondly recalled it - even though he never was in US, I guess he was content with the image he had in his mind about the US, rather the reality of it all... For more than 800.000 Norwegians, from the early 1800s to the mid 20 century US was the country to emigrate to - if you was not content with what was home, you could always emigrate to the US, and even make it well there.. Many did it too - even though most of them never arise over "the middle class" I guess. But compared to what they might have had here in Norway, after the war it was strict rationalizing for a long while - the last thing to be de-rationalized was the cars - and that was in 1960!: Norway was poor compared to US, and US was coming to Europe, and Norway rather on the fast line after WW2.. The gigantic of USA was suddenly coming to a home near you, that be music, movies (mostly in the cinemas) and on all different parts of life, we got the impression that the United States was the place to be, if you wanted to get rich...

Oil and Gas have definitely helped Norway going from being one of the poorer country's in Europe - even though I doubt we was that poor, rather was living little less affluent than the rest of Europe.. And until the 1990s, Sweden was in mot cases "big brother" when it came to scandinavia - specially between Norway and Sweden, where Norway had always been the "little brother" who was smaller and poorer than Sweden.. But by middle of 1990s, Norway was really turning around - thanks to the oil and gas we discovered out there in Nordsjøen. And even today, Statoil (our government oil company by the way) discover new places to produce oil and gas, and it looks like Norway if not being living on the fast line, at least have the possibility to continue be one of the richer country's in the world for many decades to come.. If we do not mess it up then...

Oil and gas can help a country going from poor to rich - but it depend of the government, and the willingness to work for the better of everyone - rather for the elite - and Norway managed to do that - compared to most ofter nations, who have great mineral wealth - but still the population is dirt poor, Norway have managed to use the wealth to build up a nation who have a great welfare system, who you can (even though the bureaucracy can kill!) getting help for your needs - that be if you is unemployment, or have a handicap...
I think one of the reasons, most of our wealth have made Norway to what it is today, is because we for the most part have had honest officials, who work for the better of the many rather for the few!. It goes all the way back to the early 1800s, where young public servants, on the verge of their public service, was given a book (a small one) who told them what to accept, and not to accept, and how to work in public service.. And one the advices they was given, was to have two set of writing equipment - and paper. One for public letters - the other for more private letters.. And to keep an eye on the tiller, so no one could be tempted to steal from the coffers... Even though it is a long time since that was the rule - the system are for the most part still in use - and most of our public service are been honest, hardworking and "to the books"..

Norway is a small country, who managed to get weal ty - and also to use the wealth to the best of everyone, rather for a small elite on the top... I think it all goes back to the fact, that many of them who was in government after WW2, also was the one who really know what to live poor was - and was doing their best to build a country where at least most of the population was not living in poor condtions...

Diclotican

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:25 AM

41. I don't use this often but

OMG!!!

Jeez-o-pete, pinch me, what the heck century are we living in again???

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:31 AM

43. R you fucking kidding me? less than 24 hours into the Romney overseas tour this comes out?



The Queen after meeting w/ Michelle, "Now that we have met do keep in touch."

This unprecedented crap. A person running for POTUS goes out of country and his
staff is critical of the sitting POTUS's foreign policy w/ the country where the candidate
opposing the sitting POTUS is in ..... this crosses all kinds of lines. And don't get me started
on the racism behind that comment ....

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Response to Botany (Reply #43)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:35 AM

93. I don't think the RMONEY advisors realize how "down with the brown" Great Britain is.

Let's start with present and former colonies/territories close to USA...Bermuda, Bahamas, Jamaica, Barbados, St. Kitts, Montserrat, BVI, Cayman Islands, etc., etc. and so forth.

There were and are a lot of dusky citizenry there--hell, Mittsy's been to the Caymans, he should know!!

When colonies achieved independence, a lot of people "came home" to the motherland. The people who are in lands still under the auspices of the Empire can and do come and go as they please.

Then there were all of the holdings in Africa, now idependent, but many citizens, upon independence, took the passports and ran, for example, people from KENYA, "Somalilanders," those Rhodesians (remember them?) and many South Africans, but also Ugandans, Tanzanians, etc.



http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/africa.htm


Then, when we wander on over to INDIA, the Jewel In the Crown, and Pakistan, and what is now Bangladesh...well...a lot of the members of the British Empire who took their UK passports at independence weren't terribly Anglo-Saxon looking, now, were they?

I think Mittsy just made a Very Wrong Assumption about Great Britain. He might as well have said "We're all a bunch of RACISTS up in here, just so ya know!" Fucking idiot. Wait'll he turns on the news, and sees all the ARABS and INDIANS and ooooooooooooh BLACK PEOPLE giving him the day's reports in a lovely BBC accent. I think he might just poop his silken drawers a bit.

What a miscalculation!!!!

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Response to Botany (Reply #43)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:40 AM

97. 'David Cameron to host Mitt Romney in Downing St,'.. The Guardian..

The Romney team complains about David Cameron accepting warm reception from Pres Obama, during Cameron's last USA trip..because Romney and Cameron are on similar political sides.. (in the article). Petty...ugly..

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:34 AM

45. would that also include the special 500 year old special

Mormon/Anglican Fellowship?

This just iin Romney supprt among AA has dropped to 8.

Not 8 percent just 8 African Americans in the entire country support him.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #45)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:01 AM

62. And they are all Mormons

The only 8 African American Mormons

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #62)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:34 AM

70. And they will scatter them throughout the audience during their convention, and show them over and

over again on camera, trying to make those eight look like 20 or 30 even.

I am convinced the rise of CO2 in the atmosphere is causing some brain damage in the weaker minded among us.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:34 AM

46. I have a strong Anglo-Saxon heritage

but other than a note of genetical family history, it is otherwise totally meaningless. It doesn't give me a special feeling of kinship with my long distant relatives in Europe, and it isn't something I talk about or even think about when I meet and talk with guys from Europe.

This is a carefully crafted statement by Team Romney, meant to score political points. It looks like serious pandering to the racist core of America.

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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #46)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:55 AM

59. Oddly enough, I think that Obama might have it, too. On his mom's side.

That means Obama should be able to make friends with two countries rather than just one.

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #59)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:32 AM

121. Someone added it up when they did his family tree for the 2008 election

The ethnic/national ancestry of Mr. Obama, as far as is currently known, can be shown as follows:

50.0 % Luo
35.058 593 75 % English
4.687 5 % Scottish
3.906 25 % Irish
3.710 937 5 % German
1.562 5 % Welsh
0.976 562 5 % Swiss
0.097 656 25 % French
-----------------
100.0 %

http://www.wargs.com/political/obama.html

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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #46)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:02 AM

63. It is. There's no veneer, no dog whistle, no insulation

When some dude starts talking about "America's Anglo-Saxon heritage" they are being racist. Absolutely guaranteed, every time. The only possible exception is if the context is linguistics or discussing the legal developments that led to the US constitution starting with Saxon weald law or some shit like that.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #63)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:06 AM

64. Watch them hide and say well Obama is half white if called out on that statement

Somehow though I don't think they want to point to that fact, it confuses the base.

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Response to Jessy169 (Reply #46)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:40 AM

127. A carefully crafted statement?

It's actually not even very good at hiding the utter racism it's based on.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:36 AM

47. Dogwhi$tling, "Calling all Torie$$$$!"

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:38 AM

48. David Cameron is probably Obama's best world leader friend



Mitt Ramney's inexperience and ignorance of foreign affairs is appalling.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:40 AM

49. It's a white thing

Obama wouldn't understand...

just in case it wasn't clear

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:41 AM

51. What a complete ass

I don't appreciate Anglo-Saxon heritage, probably because my forbears were Vikings and Swedish peasants. With a good dollop of Irish.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:43 AM

52. And LIBOR's Barclay's & Robert Diamond are based in what island nation?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:49 AM

54. "I wont a special relationship with you Wanker Romney!"

PS Mitt, is this what you mean by Anglo-Saxon?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:54 AM

56. Romney to U.S. "Vote for me, because I'm not Black."

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Response to McCamy Taylor (Reply #56)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:46 AM

78. that is Rmoney's campaign in a nutshell

that is why he doesn't feel he has to explain anything. Nothing else matters
except that people will vote for him because he is white and will get 'him' out
of the white house.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:54 AM

57. "special relationship" = Code-Speak for Mutual CYA's

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/us/politics/london-fund-raisers-may-put-mitt-romney-in-banking-scandals-glare.html

But the two receptions that Mr. Romney, the presumptive Republican nominee, will hold for donors next week during a swing through Europe are turning into an ill-timed public relations headache for him.

Several of the events’ hosts are top executives at banks tied to the interest rate-fixing scandal that is now engulfing London’s financial and political world, linking Mr. Romney, however superficially, to a messy moment in the continuing debate over Wall Street excesses.

The British and American authorities are examining the role of more than 10 banks in the possible manipulation of key interest rates that affected how consumers and companies borrowed money around the world.

The former chief executive and a top lobbyist for Barclays, the bank at the center of the scandal, helped organize a Romney fund-raiser. The former chief executive, Robert E. Diamond Jr., has since withdrawn his name as the event’s co-host. The bank’s lobbyist, Patrick J. Durkin, remains a co-chairman: he has bundled $1.1 million for Mr. Romney from friends and business associates, more than any other lobbyist, according to federal records.

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Response to patrice (Reply #57)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:13 PM

153. ohhh..love that bit.

Talk about being tone deaf.
In the middle of the Libor and other UK scandals, Mitt should have enough sense to avoid Barclays.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:55 AM

58. So now it's finally being laid bare

But it still makes my blood boil. A presidential candidate is making the fear erosion of WASP hegemony and priviledge in the US a plank of his platform. What a jackass. Hey Rmoney; Newsflash: A second generation Puerto Rican from the Bronx is every bit as much of a "Real American" as a 6th generation Boston Brahmin. Put that in your pipe and smoke it you elitist scumbag.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:01 AM

61. Recycling Newt Gingrich rhetoric

Watch them try to use "Judaeo-Christian" in a context that implies Obama is Mooslim.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:17 AM

65. can you be anymore racist?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:17 AM

66. Who thinks our media will hold them accountable?

And, who think our media will let this slide?

It's more controversial anything that's happened during this campaign so I don't see them ignoring this one. Romney should fire this doofus adviser.

Your guess on how our pathetic mainstream media will handle this?

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Response to RedStateLiberal (Reply #66)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:16 AM

88. The racist comments are already in the British press...

At the same time as London hosts Olympic teams from countries all over the planet,

Michelle Obama has been invited to a reception at Buckingham Palace hosted by the Queen,

Romney is visiting the Prime Minister at 10 Downing Street..

Reader comments from some of the Guardian articles are scathing towards Romney..

London is just waking up now..

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:26 AM

67. We need more WASPs in the White House like Africa needs more AIDS or Mexico needs more

drug war massacres.

Nice try, Rmoney advisor, to code your true racist feelings about a black president.

Dipshits. . .all of them!

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Reply #67)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:38 AM

72. WASP? I think not.

Yes, he gets the W (appropriately).

AS? I don't think so. Wasn't his father born in Mexico?

P? No fucking way Mormons are Protestant.

Maybe a WMM! Huh?

Not that I care where he comes from or what his religion is, let alone his race.

What matters is his policies and his integrity. Rmoney has neither.

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Response to longship (Reply #72)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:48 AM

99. I'm commenting on his Riki-Tiki-Tavi attitude

Not his religion or race. It seems the GOP has embraced white man's burden and social Darwinism again.

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Response to Suji to Seoul (Reply #99)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:09 AM

105. Your point is well taken; but surely not Darwin

More like social creationism, after all, as the GOP always reminds us, this is a Christian nation.

That's one of the most dangerous and insidious of their memes.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:28 AM

68. Desperate, vicious, and stupid...

Not a good combination, Mitt.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:39 AM

73. When Obama was born, Kenya was part of the British empire

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:45 AM

77. This is cracked on so many levels. What an ass. n/t

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Response to AllyCat (Reply #77)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:02 AM

86. What an arse

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:49 AM

79. You have got to be kidding.

Well, you know that three months or whatever in Kendonesia or whatever foreign sounding place of the week when the President was a child gave the commie's enough time to form the Great Muslim-Fascistic-Socialistic conspiracy to build a time machine and place his birth announcement in the Hawaiian newspaper.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:49 AM

80. Say what? Hasn't anyone from Moneybags' campaign had a look at his mama? nt

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:25 AM

90. Naturally not. He's Irish.

Although I'm surprised to hear mention of our Anglo-Saxons. Does this mean we didn't kill them all in our coal mineS?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:27 AM

91. Here's the actual article from the Torygraph, in case anyone is interested and has a strong stomach

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/mitt-romney/9424524/Mitt-Romney-would-restore-Anglo-Saxon-relations-between-Britain-and-America.html


How much is the Torygraph, and how much is the Romney advisor, is hard to tell. As pointed out in the OP, the Torygraph is pretty unreconstructed RW Tory; but in addition, since going online, seems to be cosying up rather actively with the American Right.

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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #91)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:33 AM

123. Thank you.

Will postpone reading for the moment as I'm about to have breakfast and don't want to spoil it.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:30 AM

92. Definitely a racist dog whistle

 

They're going all out. Clearly Romney never had the integrity of John McCain who stayed away from this kind of crap.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:35 AM

94. My husband just said "that's the longest and most poorly-tuned dog whistle I've ever heard!"

Ya think?!?!??!

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:35 AM

95. Wow. Just wow.

In all my many years of following presidential campaigns, I don't remember a nominee or a surrogate sinking quite this low. That is such a horrid thing to say. It reeks of racism.

How low is Rmoney's campaign planning to sink? This guy. Wow. He thinks he can get away with anything. He thinks he is untouchable and the rules don't apply to him. It's only JULY. This is going to get uuugly.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:48 AM

98. ...and so begins the Europe '12 Tour de Twitt.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:33 AM

100. did this go through quote approval?

I wonder if it was cleaned up, maybe in the original he said Aryan.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:51 AM

103. barely veiled racism. they're employing a lot of it, and they'll employ a lot more

in the coming months.

Romney is a dishonorable fuckwad.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:16 AM

106. It's obvious they're pushing the envelope to see what form of racism is acceptable...

And no one does anything about it because if they even remotely accuse the right of racism, even when it's pretty clear, they're raked over the coals for it. They're dismissed as crackpots who use the race card and nothing more! The reply would obviously be that's not what he meant and any assertion is just completely unfounded. They'd turn it around and make this guy the victim.

So, they keep pushing and pushing until, one day, they'll be completely open with their racism. They're close as is...which is scary.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 04:36 AM

107. The Klan talks about "Anglo-Saxon heritage" all the time.

I guess Romney wants to make sure Klansmen come out to vote.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:18 AM

108. I hope the "advisor" is named

I think it is curious that the "advisor" was NOT named.

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Response to KurtNYC (Reply #108)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:12 AM

111. Maybe because the "advisor" was RMoney

If he didn't say it, he approved it being said --- he is crazy and very dangerous for our country.

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Response to goclark (Reply #111)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:25 AM

133. seems like a newspaper should be talking to: a spokeperson, or Mitt or Anne Romney

The term "advisor" has no real meaning beyond someone who gives advice to the Romney campaign.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:53 AM

109. so what was that big kerfluffle about back in 1776?

a jealous twinge in a "special relationship" or something?

You want to go back to monarchy, is that it? Because that was the relationship against which those anglo-saxons who sailed over here were fighting... and funny thing, that---those who benefitted from a caste/class/noble system stayed in Great Britain and those who didn't bounced.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:56 AM

110. That's plain racism

They are shameless.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:14 AM

112. "It's a white thing. You wouldn't understand."

That is very ugly.

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Response to gollygee (Reply #112)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:21 AM

113. Indeed

 

well put.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:23 AM

114. HWAET! did he say?

For all you nerds out there.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:23 AM

115. Now hiring: Neo-con Prime Minister to aid future Romney government

Qualifications
Excellent speaking skills
foreign languages: none

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:24 AM

116. If that were even true what the fuck does that matter or even mean?

The United States actually has a shared history with probably every single country on the planet. Dude thinks only white folks are real Americans I guess, and conveniently forgets President Obama's white mother and grandparents who brought him up.

There's something wrong with that boy. He can't open his mouth without a backhanded insult to a whole group of people.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:28 AM

117. Romney is a racist idiot that does not

know 20th century history.

British East Africa that included colonial Kenya was part of the British Empire.

I make an assumption that Romney equates Anglo-Saxon heritage with the British Empire.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:31 AM

119. ka-SNAP!!!

jaw-dropping WOW.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:32 AM

120. Is this Romney's way of calling Obama the N-word?

Sounds blatantly racist and derogatory regardless.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:33 AM

122. Remember the whole Anglo/Saxon/Caucasian thing is heritage.

Not hate! So lets not play the race card .... much.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:39 AM

125. Is this concern for "heritage" a consequence or cause of LDS obsession with genealogy?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:05 AM

128. Comrade_McKenzie

Comrade_McKenzie

I the herritage is that important, why then make this little war of 1776, and the then untold story of telling the kings of UK to go show it somewhere the sun never shine...

This is just another sheap shoot on trying to tell the base, that the President of the United States of America are not an white ango-saxon... Nothing less, nothing more...

Diclotican

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:13 AM

129. Man shoots self in ass at WaspMart..

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:15 AM

130. Romney 1012!

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Response to tanyev (Reply #130)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:23 AM

144. NICE!

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Response to tanyev (Reply #130)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:15 PM

175. DUzy! (n/t)

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:24 AM

132. Feeling a little desperate Mitt? nt

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:26 AM

134. Damn, they've skipped right over dog whistle and went bullhorn

Jeebus.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:27 AM

135. Wait a minute. You mean he ain't white?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:29 AM

136. Tick off another for USA's favorite pastime!

USA! USA! USA! It rhymes with KKK! KKK! KKK!

Rmoney's rethugican Congress.



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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:34 AM

137. That's just strange and racist

So by virtue of most of my long past ancestors being from Britain, I'm supposed to be what? More American? That's just crazy! People are who they are right now. That statement is beyond racist. I know nothing of what my "Angle-Saxon" heritage is supposed to "mean". All I know is that my ancestors ended up in eastern, Kentucky and from that I have a really bad accent.

Really, this borders on Eugenics.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 09:35 AM

139. Obama doesn't appreciate the ANGLO-SAXON heritage we share with Great Britain.

Anything to make him the nigger! Pitiful.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:07 AM

142. So even Archie Bunker would be a better representative of the U.S.A n/t

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:50 AM

146. This Celt & his South American wife say, "Screw you, Mitt." n/t

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:59 AM

147. Maybe because O'Bama has Celtic origins.

In Ireland.

Barack not appreciating the heritage that the USA and the UK share? Ha! Plus that "advisor" has forgotten about some of the other past tribal heritages that are around... Celts, Scots, Picts, Vikings, Normans, even the odd Roman here and there. Anglo-Saxon heritage would lie pretty much in the SE and E of England and ignores the rest of the country and the other nations of the UK.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:49 AM

149. Of course, it's a pathetic statement, but that aside, isn't President Obama part Anglo-Saxon? nt

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 11:49 AM

150. Makes sense to me. I've often felt many of the richest families today

Were connected to rich families 200 years ago. From what I've understood about the American Revolution many of the wealthiest were quite happy with mother England and saw no need to rock the boat. Not only because they still had a lot of love for England and the King but also because it would harm the money stream they were so entrenched in.
You still see them today. They fawn over the Royal family and pledge themselves to benefiting them. They are still angry about the whole formation of America and the insults that were spewed against their beloved homeland. They have worked steadily to return us to the feudal system that is ingrained into their DNA. That allows them to feel as if they can recreate the old country they still long for from deep inside.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:04 PM

152. Of course, he is going to deny that it has anything to do with race

I hope this makes national news. Those racist f*ckers need to be exposed.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 12:38 PM

154. Did he go "wink wink nudge nudge" when he said that?

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Response to tularetom (Reply #154)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:04 PM

155. The funny thing is

Most of their knuckle dragger followers probably don't even know what Anglo Saxon means. LOL.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:04 PM

156. Prediction: Romney's overseas trip will be a disaster. Sit back and watch

Romney's inability to be diplomatic, likable or interested in anything outside of making money and hyping his "glory days" running the Salt Lake City Olympics his Anglo-Saxon heritage notwithstanding.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:38 PM

162. Doesn't surprise me one bit. But the Anglo-Saxon heritage he relates to is the one where the King

 

and the Nobility own everything and the rest of the population exists at the whim of the the aristocracy. Don't have any food, so starve. That is the heritage Romney identifies with.

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Response to firenewt (Reply #162)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:44 PM

165. Which is why I'm amused

By people who speak of 'neofuedalism', like Chris Hedges. I think he and others watch and read too many King Arthur type novels for their own good. That history will never repeat itself. I do believe Hedges knows that in his heart of hearts but fear is the great, and dark, motivator and he employs it well. As an optimist I don't use fear, I prefer solutions. Solutions are hard, require great thought. Fear is easy.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:38 PM

164. well this is the time for the Anglo-Saxon Community to speak up!

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:33 PM

166. You mean Obama is going to stay that color?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 03:48 PM

169. Mayflower descendents understand.

Whistles of all sorts here.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 05:32 PM

176. Wolf Blitzer just mentioned this

and that coverage is coming up on The Situation Room. I have very little hope he'll cover this fairly.

This is the first mention of these racist comments by the Romney adviser that I've heard on cable news. Anybody else see anything?

EDIT - UPDATE:
Arrrg. I was right. He tried to spin it as if we should be outraged that Biden and the O campaign are responding to reports from a foreign newpaper with an anonymous source. What makes CNN think just because the Romney campaign denied it that it isn't true? 1. The Romney campaign has zero credibility. 2. Why would a right-leaning UK newspaper just make this up or distort what someone said?

CNN is in the tank for Rmoney to keep this a close race. Pathetic!

I wish the Telegraph would reveal their source. They are being called liars by the Romney campaign. Shouldn't they push back and tell people who said this racist garbage?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:06 PM

179. What about the Jutes??

Always the Angles and the Saxons. Never any respect for the Jutes!


- Source: Garb The World

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:17 PM

180. What he meant was, Romney wants to retroactively undo that Revolutionary War thing.

God save the Queen!

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:25 PM

181. Romney's camp is denying the whole thing.

As someone said upthread, there's no motivation for a British newspaper to fabricate something like this. Nevertheless, it might be good to take his denial at face value in this instance, and say, "IF this quote is accurate, it's very troubling," etc. That way it doesn't look like we're seizing on an unverified source to try to discredit Romney. I can GUARANFUCKINGTEE there will be other times Romney verbally steps on his dick, hopefully while he's in the country, that we can make plenty of hay with. He's that terrible of a candidate.

On the other hand, the quote is so artless and desperate to push the "foreign" meme, I bet it's pretty close to accurate. And criticizing the president while on foreign soil is very bad form. IF it's accurate.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 06:26 PM

182. Anglo-Saxons were barbarians.


There's reason to cite that heritage with pride, or laud them anywhere above the Zulu.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 07:08 PM

183. Like Bush's special relationship with Blair? Hell no, I don't understand. I'm born and

raised American, USA, rah-rah, but being French/Scots/Cherokee I don't much relate to the "white Anglo-Saxon" people. What a horrible ignorant thing to say.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:18 PM

187. Robin Hood analogy

I can't believe this but here it goes. Obama's grandfather is a Dunham. Dunham is from ancient Anglo-Saxon culture of Britain. From the parish Dunham in the county Norfolk. Dun - hill and ham-home or home on the hill.
Romney is Norman they arrived in England After the Norman conquest 1066. Robin Hood was Anglo-Saxon Lord who protected the repressed Anglo-Saxons from the rich Norman overlords. There you have it.

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Response to BlueinOhio (Reply #187)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:30 AM

196. haha, interesting

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:28 PM

188. As a native Southerner, the use of the word "Heritage" is interesting...

Along with the broader racist angle, maybe Mittens' campaign folks are trying to warm up to American Southerners with the use of the word "heritage". I'm a liberal Democrat/independent, but for those of us whose male ancestors fought for the Confederacy in the Civil War, the Southern Heritage factor still hangs on in the recesses...

Before anyone gets upset about this, I'll mention I have friends from rural New York who're just as proud that their ancestors are from northern New York. (they haven't mentioned ancestors who fought in the Civil War though, and I don't ask)

If the use of the word "heritage" in this context is part of the dog-whistle appeal, it's another FAIL. Many Southerners have Scotch-Irish ancestry (not Mitt's all-hallowed Anglo-Saxon/British) and some of my Southern repub neighbors might not vote for Mitt anyway because he's a Mormon AND a Yankee. He's not "that Obama", though... that's the ONLY thing he's got going for him down here.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 08:31 PM

189. In other words..."I'm a White Guy, and Obama isn't". Desperate?

or just pathetically stupid?

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 10:54 PM

191. Funny how the Romney's view "Those People"

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 07:04 AM

195. In other words

Obama's not a hoity-toity WASP.

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Response to Comrade_McKenzie (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:56 PM

199. I'm lily-white and I don't have a drop of "Anglo-Saxon" in me...

Unless I have ancestry from English people enslaved by the Vikings.

My ancestors came from SW Norway and East Prussia. My Y-DNA haplotype is I1-uN1, typical of Western Norway.

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