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In reply to the discussion: UN reportedly just cut in half the # of children & women claimed killed in Gaza [View all]lapucelle
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Disclaimer: The UN has so far not been able to produce independent, comprehensive, and verified casualty figures; the current numbers have been provided by the Ministry of Health or Government Media Office in Gaza and the Israeli authorities and await further verification.
Other yet-to-be verified figures are also sourced.
Other yet-to-be verified figures are also sourced.
In addition, the 34,000 figure represents the number of fatalities reported to Hamas by the Ministry of Health and the Government Media Office, not to the number of identified versus unidentified bodies.
The 10,000 person discrepancy between the number of fatalities reported by Hamas and the number of fatalities identified by gender and age has to do with known identity data about the 10,000 additional reported fatalities.
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Hamas said on April 6 that it had incomplete data for 11,371 of the 33,091 Palestinian fatalities it claims to have documented. In a statistical report, the ministry notes that it considers an individual record to be incomplete if it is missing any of the following key data points: identity number, full name, date of birth, or date of death. The health ministry also released a report on April 3 that acknowledged the presence of incomplete data but did not define what it meant by incomplete. In that earlier report, the ministry acknowledged the incompleteness of 12,263 records. It is unclear why, after just three more days, the number fell to 11,371 a decrease of more than 900 records.
Prior to its admissions of incomplete data, the health ministry asserted that the information in more than 15,000 fatality records had stemmed from reliable media sources. However, the ministry never identified the sources in question and Gaza has no independent media.
Prior to its admissions of incomplete data, the health ministry asserted that the information in more than 15,000 fatality records had stemmed from reliable media sources. However, the ministry never identified the sources in question and Gaza has no independent media.
https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/04/09/hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry-admits-to-flaws-in-casualty-data/
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UN reportedly just cut in half the # of children & women claimed killed in Gaza [View all]
mcar
May 11
OP
Thank you for being one of the very few on this thread to see what actually happened with the numbers.
Celerity
May 12
#140
I did. It's repulsive that Hamas raised the number of deaths just to get people to jump on
jimfields33
May 11
#19
Because they know there are a lot of useful idiots out there who will carry water for them.
Ace Rothstein
May 11
#80
I don't take jack shit at face value from a fucking Hamas scumbag shit eating terrorist.
SoFlaBro
May 12
#114
Those 'many' being "One person on Twitter saying this and he posts no source"?
Torchlight
May 11
#36
Well Done, she.. TY for Asking Why to All these Acts of Sadistic Brutality by Geocidal Hamas.
Cha
May 11
#96
Dear she, it is nothing short of amazing how the aggressor in this whole shitstorm has wound up becoming the victim.
Tarheel_Dem
May 11
#104
"Russia, China and Iran". This is why I shake my damn head whenever I hear someone suggest that we should...
Tarheel_Dem
May 12
#153
It's not a "UN estimate" of the number of deaths; it's the number of deaths that have been reported
lapucelle
May 12
#117
As I stated in another thread. The Hamas PR machine has been very successful. They've managed to make fools...
Tarheel_Dem
May 11
#13
Thanks, your link lead to tons of replies of which I dont want to search through to find your anwser.
Eko
May 12
#118
According to the UN disclaimer, the number of reported fatalities comes from the Ministry of Health
lapucelle
May 12
#159
All I'm seeing is unsourced tweets and "the UN *reportedly* cut in half" citations.
Bucky
May 11
#33
UN changed their reporting from bodies to positive ID. Links below are to the UN.
LeftInTX
May 11
#35
Also, keep in mind that Hamas fighters common age is 16 to 35 which may count in the children numbers.
mymomwasright
May 11
#65
This OP is the kind of internet misinformation Hillary Clinton recently warned about...
Think. Again.
May 11
#105