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In reply to the discussion: 🚨🚨🚨BREAKING: President Biden tells @ErinBurnett that if Israel invades the city of Rafah, the U.S. will stop supplyi [View all]lapucelle
(18,466 posts)73. Hamas did not agree to a ceasefire. They tendered a counter proposal
to the ceasefire that Israel had already agreed to and that SOS Blinken had been urging Hamas to accept.
US: Hamas claimed to accept ceasefire offer, but thats not what they did
US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller pushes back on Hamass claim yesterday that it had accepted the ceasefire proposal that was on the table.
Israel had agreed to what US Secretary of State Antony Blinken described as a generous hostage deal proposal late last month, Miller explains at a press briefing. Thats the offer that was on the table.
Hamas seemed to make clear in their public statements that they accepted that offer yesterday. That is not what they did. They responded with amendments or a counter-proposal, and were working through the details of that now, he says, noting that CIA chief Bill Burns is in Cairo along with delegations from Israel, Hamas and Qatar.
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Miller notes that most media outlets reported Hamass statement that it had accepted the Qatari and Egyptian mediators hostage deal proposal at face value.
I dont blame the reporting. Its what the [Hamas] statement said. But its not an accurate reflection of what happened Hamas did not accept a ceasefire proposal. Hamas responded and in their response made several suggestions.
US State Department spokesperson Matthew Miller pushes back on Hamass claim yesterday that it had accepted the ceasefire proposal that was on the table.
Israel had agreed to what US Secretary of State Antony Blinken described as a generous hostage deal proposal late last month, Miller explains at a press briefing. Thats the offer that was on the table.
Hamas seemed to make clear in their public statements that they accepted that offer yesterday. That is not what they did. They responded with amendments or a counter-proposal, and were working through the details of that now, he says, noting that CIA chief Bill Burns is in Cairo along with delegations from Israel, Hamas and Qatar.
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Miller notes that most media outlets reported Hamass statement that it had accepted the Qatari and Egyptian mediators hostage deal proposal at face value.
I dont blame the reporting. Its what the [Hamas] statement said. But its not an accurate reflection of what happened Hamas did not accept a ceasefire proposal. Hamas responded and in their response made several suggestions.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/us-hamas-claimed-to-accept-ceasefire-offer-but-thats-not-what-they-did/
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demmiblue
May 8
OP
And most are not, so we just chalk up the majority, most women and childern, as collateral damage...
brush
May 9
#58
My point still exists. Further negotiations are closer to agreement on both side that ever before.
brush
May 9
#75
My resistance is to misinformation being repeated to the point where it becomes disinformation.
lapucelle
May 10
#76
Is a deal closer than ever now or not. It's certainly not time to star fighting/surging into Rafah again.
brush
May 10
#77
Hamas's propaganda concerning a ceasefire was called out by the US Department of State.
lapucelle
May 10
#78
Thank you Joe! He knows how to lead. Bibi has been PM for 16 years! That does NOT sound like a democracy.
TeamProg
May 8
#10
Those are numbers provided by the Hamas government. Genocide is targeted. Prove the genocide please
AZLD4Candidate
May 8
#22
What is it when the ultra RW Israelis use it and have used it for 100 years or so?
Celerity
May 8
#29
Of course it is the same, as we are talking about 2 groups who want to remove (and that will definitely involve killing
Celerity
May 9
#46
Won't say anything until I get numbers not provided by the Hamas run Gaza government
AZLD4Candidate
May 9
#51
Because there are no exact numbers. . .but if you trust Hamas to tell you accurate numbers, you do you.
AZLD4Candidate
May 9
#72
It's NOT genocide. More innocents than that dead in Ukraine. And Hamas' numbers include their own fighters...
AnrothElf
May 9
#43
Israel wants to be left alone. The only time they attacked was in 1967 because they knew they would be and
AZLD4Candidate
May 9
#62
Didn't your good friend who worked on the campaign know Fetterman's stance in 2022?
lapucelle
May 9
#74
Its about time. no matter what we do or don't do in this will be wrong. This whole thing is a trap.
Srkdqltr
May 8
#28
Getting rid of their weapons smuggling tunnels is the key. (Heck Hamas is likely eating smuggled steak )
LeftInTX
May 9
#65