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79. Children are dying of starvation because Israel won't allow sufficient aid to get through to thsoe who need it . . .

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Mon May 6, 2024, 01:31 PM

May 6

. . . That' is certainly a reasonable definition of genocide.

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The war against the Jewish story [View all] Beastly Boy May 5 OP

Once again the victims have become the bad guys FakeNoose May 5 #1

Yup. Elessar Zappa May 5 #2

Agree, but also... ShazzieB May 5 #45

if their donors start clawing back some of the money hamas has stolen, mopinko May 5 #3

Yes, the boycotts against Israel are aimed at the wrong people. wnylib May 5 #49

Re-Indigenizing??? Bluesaph May 5 #4

Jews were living in the region since about 2000 BCE MistakenLamb May 5 #7

They aren't the only natives Bluesaph May 5 #10

Can't. US butt the fuck out. The region is too strategically important. paleotn May 5 #16

That's always the "reason" Bluesaph May 5 #32

Different situations. And the simplistic response, butt the fuck out, is sometimes right like a broken clock. paleotn May 5 #43

Dismissing the reason for the protests is also nonproductuve Bluesaph May 5 #50

It was Iran in 1953 and French Indochina in 1945 Kennah May 7 #84

Question ShazzieB May 5 #46

Why is Israel too strategically important? Eko May 5 #59

Zionism is an anti-colonial, indigenous rights movement Mosby May 5 #8

Anti-colonial? Wtf? Bluesaph May 5 #27

"We can repatriate first peoples here in America... We don't need to create thucythucy May 5 #69

If you want to use the Bible as a source, Beastly Boy May 5 #9

Not just Jews. Obviously. Bluesaph May 5 #12

This is not the issue that you raised. Beastly Boy May 5 #17

Thanks for sharing more history. Bluesaph May 5 #25

The phrase doesn't make the same impression on me, even though I find it a bit awkward. Beastly Boy May 5 #33

Or until they chuck the goddamn religion. paleotn May 5 #15

Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all share the same deity with slightly different names. Ping Tung May 5 #23

It's Judaism's deity that the others appropriate Bad Thoughts May 5 #40

i don't think Christianity exactly "appropriated" the God of Judaism. ShazzieB May 5 #48

Trust Archeology Bad Thoughts May 5 #39

That's not my argument. Bluesaph May 5 #42

I think you misunderstand. There were still Jews in Palestine, even during the diaspora AnrothElf May 5 #52

I left Costa Rica and had four kids here in the US Bluesaph May 5 #53

You chose to leave. Bad Thoughts May 5 #60

the Old Testament was not written down until after the Jews returned from the yellowdogintexas May 5 #68

It's not Israel. It is Israel's leader. MOMFUDSKI May 5 #5

Hear, hear peppertree May 5 #13

Putin's propaganda on Gaza is not pro-Netanyahu, it's pro-Hamas. SunSeeker May 5 #22

Exactly Orrex May 5 #20

I'm all for his goal to eliminate Hamas. His settlers expansions, no. SunSeeker May 5 #26

Except Jews still kick Palestinians out of their homes. Bluesaph May 5 #28

"Hamas massacre revealed that slogan's genocidal implications" Sky Jewels May 5 #6

Except it's NOT genocide. It only diminishes the term to abuse it that way. AnrothElf May 5 #14

I'm sure any surviving family members of the tens of thousands of slaughtered Gazans Sky Jewels May 5 #56

Irrelevant. Words have meanings. AnrothElf May 5 #62

The words don't affect the fact that Israeli is brutally slaughtering Sky Jewels May 5 #70

Never said war wasn't evil as fuck. AnrothElf May 5 #71

How many Palestinians must be murdered before it meets your criteria for genocide? Orrex May 6 #82

It's gruesome to speak in numbers, but if you want to go there... AnrothElf May 7 #83

Genocide can be a tool of war, and war can be a mechanism for genocide Orrex May 7 #85

More empty bumper-sticker sloganeering. AnrothElf May 7 #86

Says the wizard of empty bumper-sticker sloganeering Orrex May 7 #87

LOL "I'm rubber you're glue" AnrothElf May 7 #88

No, that's not it. Orrex May 7 #90

I stand by my position. This is not genocide, and misapplying the term is derogatory and borderline antisemitic. AnrothElf May 7 #91

I wish you'd post this in a thousand more threads. egduj May 7 #89

Do you think that a TEENY, TINY bit of the continuation of the war yagotme May 6 #74

"Except it's NOT genocide . . . " markpkessinger May 6 #77

That's not an argument. It's an appeal to emotion. AnrothElf May 6 #78

Children are dying of starvation because Israel won't allow sufficient aid to get through to thsoe who need it . . . markpkessinger May 6 #79

It might be a war crime, but no, by itself it doesn't rise to the definition of genocide. AnrothElf May 6 #81

Also, those who children AREN'T being systematically starved to death have the luxury of quibbling over definitions ... markpkessinger May 6 #80

However arbitrary your definition of "genocide" may be, Beastly Boy May 5 #18

I wouldn't be sticking up for Netanyahu's/Israeli government's/IDF's "morality" if I were you. Sky Jewels May 5 #57

Both sides have some bad actors right now Johnny2X2X May 5 #11

I do not disagree with your post, but this is not the subject of the article. Beastly Boy May 5 #19

The article asks how it's possible that Israel villain Bluesaph May 5 #29

How did it come to this? Students ignorant of history were played by social media and influencers. SunSeeker May 5 #21

Anti semitism or anti genocide? Bluesaph May 5 #30

Eliminating Hamas is not revenge, it necessity. SunSeeker May 5 #35

I understand what you're saying Bluesaph May 5 #41

I think the photographic footage of Gaza's dessimation may have had something to do KPN May 5 #24

You may well and righteously feel that PCIntern May 5 #31

You nailed it Johnny2X2X May 5 #34

The IDF's aim now is to eliminate the last remaining Hamas battalion. SunSeeker May 5 #37

The goal is and always has been: Zeitghost May 5 #54

I understand. I don't condone Hamas one bit. They should be. KPN May 5 #51

Ok. Fair enough. PCIntern May 5 #55

Jew hating is as fashionable as ever BannonsLiver May 5 #36

It's not so latent here, either, since October 7. DavidDvorkin May 5 #44

You misspelled the word "rampant." egduj May 5 #47

You know what else is rampant? Sky Jewels May 5 #58

"Death to Israel" and "Death to America" aren't criticisms of Netty or the Israeli government. yagotme May 6 #75

There sure are a lot of Israeli Jews who are Jew hating iemanja May 7 #93

Good read LetMyPeopleVote May 5 #38

Control enid602 May 5 #61

it's the body count. israel is ahead in the body count war by some 30 to one nt msongs May 5 #63

Not for the lack of trying. Beastly Boy May 5 #64

the point is israel is way ahead in the number of people being slaughtered and thats bad PR which results msongs May 5 #66

I understand the rationale, but the assumption behind it is fundamentally flawed Beastly Boy May 6 #72

So, for better PR, Israel should allow more of their people to be killed? yagotme May 6 #76

Whoa.. Rec! 💙 Cha May 5 #67

While I agree with you on the body count, the anti-Israel stuff has been going for decades. LeftInTX May 6 #73

"In focusing on Israel's actions and dismissing those of Hamas, campus protesters are providing cover for October 7.." Cha May 5 #65

It's because of how Netanyahu has chosen to respond to the Hamas attacks iemanja May 7 #92