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Here Comes The Polls [View all] gab13by13 May 3 OP

Have you shared your insight with Biden's campaign manager? brooklynite May 3 #1

Well she has to say that. I believe that it will be at least a 5% spread + Dems all the way. flying_wahini May 3 #2

And their internal polling data has to say the same thing? brooklynite May 3 #3

I agree, gab13by13 May 3 #5

Hillary's loss does suggest that Johonny May 3 #35

She just: TheProle May 3 #16

Biden's campaign manager secretly wants Trump to win ? KS Toronado May 5 #79

Sigh TheProle May 5 #84

One Congressional district in NY is not indicative of a national race. TwilightZone May 3 #4

I never said it was, gab13by13 May 3 #6

It's a 2:1 D to R District... WarGamer May 3 #19

That is not true. 9 points was expected. Demsrule86 May 3 #22

link? WarGamer May 3 #29

BTW since 2012... the average winning margin in NY26 has been around 45% WarGamer May 3 #33

You still haven't given a link. arthritisR_US May 4 #48

I found this on Google in about a minute. There were other articles as well. This means Demsrule86 May 4 #53

Do you have a link to this poll that had Kennedy up only 10? In Too Deep May 3 #7

Kennedy is not even going to make 10...he is unimportant. oops I meant RFK JR...not this Kennedy Demsrule86 May 3 #23

Here is the article...it was expected to +9. Demsrule86 May 4 #54

I think that's off the Cook Report. In Too Deep May 4 #60

K&R spanone May 3 #8

Thank you, couldn't have said it better myself. a kennedy May 3 #9

Polls at this point simply exist to get clicks/views -misanthroptimist May 3 #10

Polls are a snapshot of the current landscape - but no, they're not meaningless. In Too Deep May 3 #12

Take a look at this BumRushDaShow May 3 #13

Indeed... Wednesdays May 3 #14

I think polls are an indicator this race is likely to be close. In Too Deep May 3 #15

They only indicate the sentiment of the ones who were invested enough to respond to the pollsters BumRushDaShow May 3 #17

Like I said: I see no indication the race isn't close. In Too Deep May 3 #18

Repeating the narrative... BumRushDaShow May 3 #20

Yes. I am pushing my narrative that I see with my own eyes. In Too Deep May 3 #25

And the many polls that were way off are discarded by your "own eyes" BumRushDaShow May 3 #32

I think you're confusing closeness with win/lose results Silent3 May 3 #36

I'm talking about the NARRATIVE BumRushDaShow May 3 #39

"Narrative" and "polls are meaningless" aren't the same thing Silent3 May 4 #50

To address BumRushDaShow May 4 #51

Who do you think is pushing polls "as a substitute for 'common sense'"? Silent3 May 4 #56

Who do you think is pushing polls "as a substitute for common sense? BumRushDaShow May 4 #57

Polls are not the same as the narratives that SOME people spin around them, and are NOT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE to GOTV Silent3 May 4 #58

You cannot disconnect the two because they are inextricably linked. BumRushDaShow May 4 #59

"You cannot disconnect the two because they are inextricably linked"? Yes, I can, using this tool called a "brain". Silent3 May 4 #65

To respond BumRushDaShow May 4 #70

Nope, I'm not "an employee of RCP or 538 or any other aggregator site", nor do I see the relevance of that Silent3 May 5 #73

Nope, I'm not "an employee of RCP or 538 or any other aggregator site", nor do I see the relevance of that BumRushDaShow May 5 #74

You apparently have your own agenda you want to rant about, not the phrase "polls are meaningless" Silent3 May 5 #75

And once again BumRushDaShow May 5 #83

Who here is defending misinformation or selective use of polls? Silent3 May 5 #85

You conceded to why I am doing this BumRushDaShow May 5 #86

"The fact that you even thought that I ever said that you did is perhaps telling?" Silent3 May 5 #87

We are absolutely on the same side BumRushDaShow May 5 #88

You're actually not correct here. In Too Deep May 3 #37

Yet here is another popular aggregator that said otherwise in 2022 BumRushDaShow May 3 #41

And yet you literally said: "The "polls" NEVER had Biden picking up GA as a state" In Too Deep May 3 #42

The aggregators that compile months of "polls" BumRushDaShow May 4 #47

I showed you where plenty of polls had Biden winning Georgia. In Too Deep May 4 #61

And that was based on the "narrative" that was projected to the masses BumRushDaShow May 4 #64

Just admit you were wrong. In Too Deep May 4 #68

No you still don't "get it" BumRushDaShow May 4 #72

You said polls did not show Biden winning Georgia. This was not true. In Too Deep May 5 #89

The "narrative" that took on a life of its own claimed such based on their use or misuse of "polls" BumRushDaShow May 5 #91

You said polls did not show Biden winning Georgia. This was not true. In Too Deep May 5 #94

The "narratives" that were generated from "the polls" - notably in their maps - didn't show GA as "blue" BumRushDaShow May 5 #95

Your exact words: The "polls" NEVER had Biden picking up GA as a state. In Too Deep May 5 #97

"Polls" (plural) as reflected in the aggregate averages that had most pundits leaving GA as "tossup" BumRushDaShow May 6 #98

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You ignored my entire argument about "narratives" and instead have framed it with your own fixation. BumRushDaShow May 6 #104

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You cherry-pick out of ALL the posts that I did talking about "narratives" and "polls" in order to obfuscate the point BumRushDaShow May 6 #108

Add to which, the Biden campaign says it's close brooklynite May 4 #69

Why do you want to think that? Recent elections have been very much in our favor... Demsrule86 May 4 #55

Because most every election since 2012 has been relatively close. In Too Deep May 4 #62

"They only indicate the sentiment of the ones who were invested enough to respond to the pollsters" Silent3 May 3 #34

For the partisan GOP pollsters BumRushDaShow May 3 #38

Very nice job dragging them out. Masterful. marble falls May 6 #109

Have had a good teacher! BumRushDaShow May 6 #110

+++ JohnSJ May 3 #27

This election is nothing like any other election in our lifetime which is why most of the polls are wrong. Demsrule86 May 3 #24

100% agree. In Too Deep May 3 #26

2022 resulted in Democrats RETAKING the PA state House after a dozen years BumRushDaShow May 3 #40

I don't know what the polls predicted for a bunch of state house races. In Too Deep May 3 #44

And to reiterate BumRushDaShow May 4 #49

And I will reiterate: 2020 was close. 2022 was close. I see no reason to believe 2024 won't be close. In Too Deep May 4 #63

So you can't define a value for the term "close". BumRushDaShow May 4 #66

I did. 2020 and 2022. In Too Deep May 4 #67

Naming a "year" instead of a value for the word "close" BumRushDaShow May 4 #71

WOW, all I have to say about polls is this KS Toronado May 5 #80

As another example BumRushDaShow May 5 #81

You're a smart person. If you aren't clear on how those elections turned out, you can Google the results. In Too Deep May 5 #90

You are promoting "narratives" BumRushDaShow May 5 #92

I am promoting MY opinion. I think the election will be close. Just as it was close four years ago. In Too Deep May 5 #93

. Fudster May 3 #11

Just look at the primaries. lees1975 May 3 #21

It's fascist media propaganda. onecaliberal May 3 #28

This election will be too close, I'm afraid Bucky May 3 #30

Trump's overperforming of the polls concerns me. In Too Deep May 4 #45

I agree re Wisconsin and Pennsylvania shrike3 May 4 #46

Yeah, I wonder about this so called poll stats, and they all seem to be off, by some indeterminate factor, which SWBTATTReg May 3 #31

I hate to be a Debbie downer democrattotheend May 3 #43

The results of polls are highly dependent.... Think. Again. May 4 #52

The ONLY polls that matter are battleground state polls. Thats where the race will be won or lost. oldsoftie May 5 #76

Obviously, polls and voter turnout aren't the same. sop May 5 #77

Someone answer this question gab13by13 May 5 #78

There are many polls. Pick the one you like and swear by it. Swear at the others. keithbvadu2 May 5 #82

Doo doo doo doo 🎶 Silent3 May 5 #96

Biden way up in the latest fucking polls that I goddamn saw: ABC News 49%-45% (+4) NPR/Marist 52%-47% (+5) SoFlaBro May 6 #99

That has been the trend with polls Dorian Gray May 6 #100

Thank you. elleng May 6 #101

Fuck the polls. marble falls May 6 #102

As long as msm wants a horse race, the polls Emile May 6 #105

From May 2012: retread May 6 #106