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Beastly Boy

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Sun May 5, 2024, 09:57 AM May 5

The war against the Jewish story [View all]

How has it come to this? How is it possible that Israel, rather than radical Islamism, would become the villain on liberal campuses? That thousands of students would be chanting “from the river to the sea” even as the Hamas massacre revealed that slogan’s genocidal implications? That the most passionate outbreak of student activism since the 1960s would be devoted to delegitimizing the Jewish people’s story of triumph over annihilation?

This moment didn’t happen in a vacuum. The anti-Zionist forces in academia have been preparing the ground for decades, systematically dismantling the moral basis of each stage of Zionist and Israeli history.

The attack began on the very origins of Zionism, which was transformed from a story of a dispossessed people re-indigenizing in its ancient homeland into one more sordid expression of European colonialism. (Europe’s post-Holocaust gift to the Jews: leaving us with the bill for its sins.)

Next, the birth of Israel in 1948 was reduced to the Nakba, or catastrophe, a Palestinian narrative of total innocence that ignores the ethnic cleansing of Jews from every place where Arab armies were victorious and the subsequent uprooting of the entire Jewish population of the Muslim world. Post-1967 Israel was cast as an apartheid state – turning Zionism, a multi-faceted movement representing Jews across the political and religious spectrum into a racist ideology and reducing an agonizingly complex national conflict into a medieval passion play about Jewish perfidy.

And now, with the Gaza War, we have come to the genocide canard, the endpoint in the process of delegitimization.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/the-war-against-the-jewish-story/

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Once again the victims have become the bad guys FakeNoose May 5 #1
Yup. Elessar Zappa May 5 #2
Agree, but also... ShazzieB May 5 #45
if their donors start clawing back some of the money hamas has stolen, mopinko May 5 #3
Yes, the boycotts against Israel are aimed at the wrong people. wnylib May 5 #49
Re-Indigenizing??? Bluesaph May 5 #4
Jews were living in the region since about 2000 BCE MistakenLamb May 5 #7
They aren't the only natives Bluesaph May 5 #10
Can't. US butt the fuck out. The region is too strategically important. paleotn May 5 #16
That's always the "reason" Bluesaph May 5 #32
Different situations. And the simplistic response, butt the fuck out, is sometimes right like a broken clock. paleotn May 5 #43
Dismissing the reason for the protests is also nonproductuve Bluesaph May 5 #50
It was Iran in 1953 and French Indochina in 1945 Kennah May 7 #84
Question ShazzieB May 5 #46
Why is Israel too strategically important? Eko May 5 #59
Zionism is an anti-colonial, indigenous rights movement Mosby May 5 #8
Anti-colonial? Wtf? Bluesaph May 5 #27
"We can repatriate first peoples here in America... We don't need to create thucythucy May 5 #69
If you want to use the Bible as a source, Beastly Boy May 5 #9
Not just Jews. Obviously. Bluesaph May 5 #12
This is not the issue that you raised. Beastly Boy May 5 #17
Thanks for sharing more history. Bluesaph May 5 #25
The phrase doesn't make the same impression on me, even though I find it a bit awkward. Beastly Boy May 5 #33
Or until they chuck the goddamn religion. paleotn May 5 #15
Islam, Judaism, and Christianity all share the same deity with slightly different names. Ping Tung May 5 #23
It's Judaism's deity that the others appropriate Bad Thoughts May 5 #40
i don't think Christianity exactly "appropriated" the God of Judaism. ShazzieB May 5 #48
Trust Archeology Bad Thoughts May 5 #39
That's not my argument. Bluesaph May 5 #42
I think you misunderstand. There were still Jews in Palestine, even during the diaspora AnrothElf May 5 #52
I left Costa Rica and had four kids here in the US Bluesaph May 5 #53
You chose to leave. Bad Thoughts May 5 #60
the Old Testament was not written down until after the Jews returned from the yellowdogintexas May 5 #68
It's not Israel. It is Israel's leader. MOMFUDSKI May 5 #5
Hear, hear peppertree May 5 #13
Putin's propaganda on Gaza is not pro-Netanyahu, it's pro-Hamas. SunSeeker May 5 #22
Exactly Orrex May 5 #20
I'm all for his goal to eliminate Hamas. His settlers expansions, no. SunSeeker May 5 #26
Except Jews still kick Palestinians out of their homes. Bluesaph May 5 #28
"Hamas massacre revealed that slogan's genocidal implications" Sky Jewels May 5 #6
Except it's NOT genocide. It only diminishes the term to abuse it that way. AnrothElf May 5 #14
I'm sure any surviving family members of the tens of thousands of slaughtered Gazans Sky Jewels May 5 #56
Irrelevant. Words have meanings. AnrothElf May 5 #62
The words don't affect the fact that Israeli is brutally slaughtering Sky Jewels May 5 #70
Never said war wasn't evil as fuck. AnrothElf May 5 #71
How many Palestinians must be murdered before it meets your criteria for genocide? Orrex May 6 #82
It's gruesome to speak in numbers, but if you want to go there... AnrothElf May 7 #83
Genocide can be a tool of war, and war can be a mechanism for genocide Orrex May 7 #85
More empty bumper-sticker sloganeering. AnrothElf May 7 #86
Says the wizard of empty bumper-sticker sloganeering Orrex May 7 #87
LOL "I'm rubber you're glue" AnrothElf May 7 #88
No, that's not it. Orrex May 7 #90
I stand by my position. This is not genocide, and misapplying the term is derogatory and borderline antisemitic. AnrothElf May 7 #91
I wish you'd post this in a thousand more threads. egduj May 7 #89
Do you think that a TEENY, TINY bit of the continuation of the war yagotme May 6 #74
"Except it's NOT genocide . . . " markpkessinger May 6 #77
That's not an argument. It's an appeal to emotion. AnrothElf May 6 #78
Children are dying of starvation because Israel won't allow sufficient aid to get through to thsoe who need it . . . markpkessinger May 6 #79
It might be a war crime, but no, by itself it doesn't rise to the definition of genocide. AnrothElf May 6 #81
Also, those who children AREN'T being systematically starved to death have the luxury of quibbling over definitions ... markpkessinger May 6 #80
However arbitrary your definition of "genocide" may be, Beastly Boy May 5 #18
I wouldn't be sticking up for Netanyahu's/Israeli government's/IDF's "morality" if I were you. Sky Jewels May 5 #57
Both sides have some bad actors right now Johnny2X2X May 5 #11
I do not disagree with your post, but this is not the subject of the article. Beastly Boy May 5 #19
The article asks how it's possible that Israel villain Bluesaph May 5 #29
How did it come to this? Students ignorant of history were played by social media and influencers. SunSeeker May 5 #21
Anti semitism or anti genocide? Bluesaph May 5 #30
Eliminating Hamas is not revenge, it necessity. SunSeeker May 5 #35
I understand what you're saying Bluesaph May 5 #41
I think the photographic footage of Gaza's dessimation may have had something to do KPN May 5 #24
You may well and righteously feel that PCIntern May 5 #31
You nailed it Johnny2X2X May 5 #34
The IDF's aim now is to eliminate the last remaining Hamas battalion. SunSeeker May 5 #37
The goal is and always has been: Zeitghost May 5 #54
I understand. I don't condone Hamas one bit. They should be. KPN May 5 #51
Ok. Fair enough. PCIntern May 5 #55
Jew hating is as fashionable as ever BannonsLiver May 5 #36
It's not so latent here, either, since October 7. DavidDvorkin May 5 #44
You misspelled the word "rampant." egduj May 5 #47
You know what else is rampant? Sky Jewels May 5 #58
"Death to Israel" and "Death to America" aren't criticisms of Netty or the Israeli government. yagotme May 6 #75
There sure are a lot of Israeli Jews who are Jew hating iemanja May 7 #93
Good read LetMyPeopleVote May 5 #38
Control enid602 May 5 #61
it's the body count. israel is ahead in the body count war by some 30 to one nt msongs May 5 #63
Not for the lack of trying. Beastly Boy May 5 #64
the point is israel is way ahead in the number of people being slaughtered and thats bad PR which results msongs May 5 #66
I understand the rationale, but the assumption behind it is fundamentally flawed Beastly Boy May 6 #72
So, for better PR, Israel should allow more of their people to be killed? yagotme May 6 #76
Whoa.. Rec! 💙 Cha May 5 #67
While I agree with you on the body count, the anti-Israel stuff has been going for decades. LeftInTX May 6 #73
"In focusing on Israel's actions and dismissing those of Hamas, campus protesters are providing cover for October 7.." Cha May 5 #65
It's because of how Netanyahu has chosen to respond to the Hamas attacks iemanja May 7 #92
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