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highplainsdem

(49,186 posts)
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:31 PM May 12

John McEntee, former Trump aide & Project 2025 advisor, gives fake money to homeless people so they'll get arrested

when they use it. He says he does this to help "clean up the community, getting them off the street."

Tweet with his TikTok video:





Reaction to it from Tara Setmayer of the Lincoln Project:


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John McEntee, former Trump aide & Project 2025 advisor, gives fake money to homeless people so they'll get arrested (Original Post) highplainsdem May 12 OP
Isn't that a crime, passing off counterfeit money? Fla Dem May 12 #1
Yes. This has to be more than one crime. bullimiami May 12 #5
As I understand it, yes. And people on Twitter are saying it is. highplainsdem May 12 #7
It's Hollywood money. No it's not a crime to own it or sell or give it away. LeftInTX May 12 #11
Yes it is when you pass it as real. That's what he was doing! Wonder Why May 12 #12
He's giving it away. He's not using it in a transaction LeftInTX May 12 #14
He's defrauding people who think it is real and they are passing it because they do believe. Wonder Why May 12 #15
It's been answered by attorneys before LeftInTX May 12 #17
He is using trickery to get people arrested. Irish_Dem May 12 #24
Lawyers have answered that question LeftInTX May 12 #25
I don't care what the lawyers say. Irish_Dem May 12 #26
Never forget, Mr.Bill May 12 #30
Agree. F the law. This man is filth. nt The Unmitigated Gall May 12 #38
Transferring money IS a transaction. Doesn't have to be two way. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 12 #27
"PASSING" such can be considered a felony, or a federal crime, niyad May 12 #34
If I give you a balloon of heroin... appmanga May 12 #39
Heroin possession is illegal. Possessing play money is not illegal. LeftInTX May 12 #49
Let's not go to far out of the box then. appmanga May 13 #75
He has to be lying to them to tell them it's worth something. Then if they have any trouble over it, that has brewens May 12 #28
I would like to see an undercover cop pose as a homeless man or woman wnylib May 12 #52
If his scam worked it should piss the cops off more than anything. All they need is that joker adding to brewens May 12 #66
I wonder if cops could get him on some sort of nuisance charge for wnylib May 13 #71
"Kids Learning Toys and Birthday Party" Xavier Breath May 12 #18
It's not illegal to sell or buy the stuff... LeftInTX May 12 #19
I didn't say it was. Xavier Breath May 12 #20
Everyone is saying this Trump guy is gonna get locked up for giving it away. LeftInTX May 12 #21
'Everyone' doesn't include me. Xavier Breath May 12 #22
It may not be illegal, but it's sleazy and mean-spirited as hell. Right up RNC's alley. catbyte May 12 #47
That is 1000% true!!! LeftInTX May 12 #51
I found a law that may apply, but we can't seem to prosecute traitors and crooks as long as they're rich, catbyte May 12 #54
Actually, it may be a crime. If somebody really wants to pursue it, it looks like it violates catbyte May 12 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author Bristlecone May 12 #45
It's absolutely a crime. BonnieJW May 12 #48
Are We Talking RobinA May 13 #76
So, is he is making bamagal62 May 12 #2
According to another poster, he is using movie prop money. Since I niyad May 12 #37
rightwingers gonna rightwing. Think. Again. May 12 #3
Hope he gets a very nasty visit from the Secret Service MarineCombatEngineer May 12 #4
well hopefully now that he has admitted to conterfeiting money, DOJ will arrest him Takket May 12 #6
Scum. Entrapment. Enticement. no_hypocrisy May 12 #8
Agree. republianmushroom May 12 #10
Yes, people who pass counterfeit money should certainly be imprisoned to keep them off the streets unblock May 12 #9
Does this fall in the category of Kristy Noem killing her dog MadameButterfly May 12 #16
Will it ruin his political career? Not likely. Probably make him a hero among the deplorables unblock May 12 #23
Wow. So picking on homeless people ok, but not dogs MadameButterfly May 12 #29
Like Kristi Noem, in MAGA world, the cruelty is a feature, not a bug. n/t thesquanderer May 12 #46
How come guys like this don't get death threats ? Just honest people. rickford66 May 12 #13
Maybe fight fire with fire? I_UndergroundPanther May 12 #67
What a mean-spirited, shitty thing to do. 3catwoman3 May 12 #31
May he, and his enablers, receive everything they deserve. niyad May 12 #32
..... could you add a lace table cloth, arsenic, and hemlock to the menu of Mr. McEntee's meal ? magicarpet May 12 #42
But of course. Poke, datura, amanita muscaria, hemlock. . niyad May 12 #63
Place in hell, for sure. And I'm an Atheist! mjvpi May 12 #33
These people are just rotten to the core PatSeg May 12 #35
That is illegal. Lock him up! nt TeamProg May 12 #36
Remember... DET May 12 #40
He got into some trouble too Mad_Machine76 May 13 #78
No Doubt DET May 13 #79
I am still recovering from very severe medical crap but I would love to spend some time with that a-hole Botany May 12 #41
Yeah... progressoid May 12 #57
I had an experience with a homeless guy looking for food just a few days ago. wnylib May 12 #64
Speaking of food for the hungry across America check out the Biden' Administration's, "Food is Medicine." Botany May 13 #74
This is all over twitter with lots of comments @ing ("at"ing) @FBI and @Secret Service IcyPeas May 12 #43
Wow 😮 live love laugh May 12 #44
Isn't it illegal to tender fake money to some one gopiscrap May 12 #50
Criminal solicitation Ponietz May 13 #72
Hope someone harmed comes forward. Otherwise, this POS will become more popular to right. Silent Type May 12 #55
Betcha he's also giving them food and treats laden with poison dalton99a May 12 #56
He wouldn't be the first. FrenchCitizen May 12 #58
Sickening Danmel May 12 #59
An in your face statement of what project 2025 is all about. NoMoreRepugs May 12 #60
Speak of the Devil... DET May 13 #69
Let's hope . . . AverageOldGuy May 12 #61
sick BlueWaveNeverEnd May 12 #62
Republicans hate the poor I_UndergroundPanther May 12 #65
Dude's so stupid GenThePerservering May 13 #68
Arrest this motherfucker Blue Owl May 13 #70
Donate to Donald using Christian money. Cheating wait staff while passing God's word as a tip.. keithbvadu2 May 13 #73
Christian Nation Traildogbob May 13 #77

Fla Dem

(23,973 posts)
1. Isn't that a crime, passing off counterfeit money?
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:35 PM
May 12

If the receiver of this counterfeit money then tries to use it, they could be arrested,

Beside the legality of the act, John McEntee is a swine treating homeless people like props so he can get a chuckle.

bullimiami

(13,131 posts)
5. Yes. This has to be more than one crime.
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:37 PM
May 12

He is passing it with the intent of falsely involving the police and courts.

LeftInTX

(25,939 posts)
11. It's Hollywood money. No it's not a crime to own it or sell or give it away.
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:54 PM
May 12

This has been going on for awhile.



Police warn of movie prop money used as actual currency
https://www.lascrucesbulletin.com/stories/police-warn-of-movie-prop-money-used-as-actual-currency,7990

LeftInTX

(25,939 posts)
17. It's been answered by attorneys before
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:06 PM
May 12

Andrew Mark Jaffe
Internet Lawyer in Akron, OH
| Licensed for 46 years
Besides being just plain mean to the homeless, I am concerned about your possession of "fake money." You could be creating liability for yourself.

Andra Marie Vaccaro
Business Attorney in Los Angeles, CA

42 reviews
Rating:
9.2
Posted on May 30, 2017
No, but why do that?....................................................

https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-it-illegal-to-give-a-homeless-person-fake-money-3063588.html

Irish_Dem

(48,802 posts)
24. He is using trickery to get people arrested.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:32 PM
May 12

So if I trick you into committing a crime that is perfectly legal?


Irish_Dem

(48,802 posts)
26. I don't care what the lawyers say.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:38 PM
May 12

It it is wrong, immoral and should be illegal to trick others into committing crimes.

This is not a court of law.

This is the court of public opinion and it is wrong to entice people into committing crimes.

niyad

(114,215 posts)
34. "PASSING" such can be considered a felony, or a federal crime,
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:07 PM
May 12

depending on use, says the linked article.

appmanga

(606 posts)
39. If I give you a balloon of heroin...
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:23 PM
May 12

...because you want some heroin, that's a transaction whether you pay me or not. If you are caught with said heroin, saying someone gave it to you isn't a defense.

As with everything with the law, whether what he's doing is illegal may depend on several things, including the jurisdiction in which he lives. I would believe he's committing a fraud similar to if I sold you baking soda instead of the heroin you decided to buy from me, something that is illegal in some jurisdictions. But, regardless of the law, he's a piece of shit. And to have the temerity to admit something so ugly in a public forum shows how the cruelty of the MAGAts is a part of how they choose to live their lives.

LeftInTX

(25,939 posts)
49. Heroin possession is illegal. Possessing play money is not illegal.
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:45 PM
May 12

I can go to Dollar Tree and buy play money. I can't buy heroin at Dollar Tree.

brewens

(13,717 posts)
28. He has to be lying to them to tell them it's worth something. Then if they have any trouble over it, that has
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:45 PM
May 12

to qualify as some kind of fraud, even if it's only a sting of misdemeanors. If not counterfeiting. There is no fucking way that is totally legal. Gotta be some kind of malicious mischief or harassment.

wnylib

(21,899 posts)
52. I would like to see an undercover cop pose as a homeless man or woman
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:55 PM
May 12

in a place that he frequents and catch him in the act of fraudulently representing fake money as real in order to entice people to commit a crime.

Or, would love to see someone take a video if him in the act and post it.


brewens

(13,717 posts)
66. If his scam worked it should piss the cops off more than anything. All they need is that joker adding to
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:55 PM
May 12

their work with phony money calls.

wnylib

(21,899 posts)
71. I wonder if cops could get him on some sort of nuisance charge for
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:56 AM
May 13

creating crime situations that they have to deal with. Sort of Iike people who pull fire alarms for kicks.

Xavier Breath

(3,709 posts)
18. "Kids Learning Toys and Birthday Party"
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:09 PM
May 12

Because what kid doesn't want to receive a pile of fake cash for their birthday? That'll learn 'em.

Xavier Breath

(3,709 posts)
20. I didn't say it was.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:14 PM
May 12

I was merely pointing out what a lame selling point it was to suggest it was good for a kid's birthday party.

LeftInTX

(25,939 posts)
21. Everyone is saying this Trump guy is gonna get locked up for giving it away.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:20 PM
May 12

I'm saying he won't because it's not illegal to give away.

I think what he's doing is unethical and deplorable, but a__hole is not going to prison over this. As much as we would like these guys off the street, this isn't gonna get him put away.

Xavier Breath

(3,709 posts)
22. 'Everyone' doesn't include me.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:24 PM
May 12

Again, I was commenting on the lame birthday party angle. If this needs still further explanation, please let me know.

LeftInTX

(25,939 posts)
51. That is 1000% true!!!
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:54 PM
May 12

Although we want these creeps put away, unfortunately, he will still be out on the streets.

catbyte

(34,594 posts)
54. I found a law that may apply, but we can't seem to prosecute traitors and crooks as long as they're rich,
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:58 PM
May 12

so this creep is gonna skate by. But that report I posted is interesting.

catbyte

(34,594 posts)
53. Actually, it may be a crime. If somebody really wants to pursue it, it looks like it violates
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:55 PM
May 12

18 U.S.C. 2.

Virtually every federal criminal statute has a hidden feature; primary offenders and even their most casual accomplices face equal punishment. This results from 18 U.S.C. 2, which visits the same consequences on anyone who orders or assists in the commission of a federal crime. Aiding and abetting means assisting in the commission of someone else’s crime. Section 2(a) demands that the defendant embrace the crime of another and consciously do something to contribute to its success. An accomplice must know the offense is afoot if he is to intentionally contribute to its success. While a completed offense is a prerequisite to conviction for aiding and abetting, the hands-on offender need be neither named nor convicted.

https://crsreports.congress.gov/product/pdf/R/R43769/4

Response to Fla Dem (Reply #1)

BonnieJW

(2,284 posts)
48. It's absolutely a crime.
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:43 PM
May 12

Years ago I was a bank teller. If someone was making a deposit and a counterfeit bill was in it, I couldn't even give the bill back to the owner. I had to put it in a baggie and call the FBI. The owner was out $20

RobinA

(9,934 posts)
76. Are We Talking
Mon May 13, 2024, 01:42 PM
May 13

Monopoly money, or actual counterfeit greenbacks? I never met a homeless person yet who didn't know the difference. They're homeless, not dumb.

niyad

(114,215 posts)
37. According to another poster, he is using movie prop money. Since I
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:10 PM
May 12

could not listen to the vudeo, I do not know if that is what the sleazoid is claiming.

Takket

(21,760 posts)
6. well hopefully now that he has admitted to conterfeiting money, DOJ will arrest him
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:38 PM
May 12

I'm not holding my breath for garland to move on him

unblock

(52,608 posts)
9. Yes, people who pass counterfeit money should certainly be imprisoned to keep them off the streets
Sun May 12, 2024, 08:45 PM
May 12

His plan is to intentionally commit a crime in an effort to dupe other people into committing the same crime, and then figure that the other people will go to prison and he won't.

MadameButterfly

(1,142 posts)
29. Wow. So picking on homeless people ok, but not dogs
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:48 PM
May 12

I wish you weren't right about this.

I do hope it turns out to be illegal though. It might not bother the MAGAs but it could bother the police who are having to deal with the people arrested for fake bills

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,524 posts)
67. Maybe fight fire with fire?
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:59 PM
May 12

Trash bags deserve death threats imho. Maybe it might housebreak them so they think twice about shitting on people.

niyad

(114,215 posts)
32. May he, and his enablers, receive everything they deserve.
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:02 PM
May 12

I would love to invite him to a meal, maybe a nice salad with mushrooms, a lovely tea. .

magicarpet

(14,288 posts)
42. ..... could you add a lace table cloth, arsenic, and hemlock to the menu of Mr. McEntee's meal ?
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:28 PM
May 12

.... here are some candles for the table of his last supper.

DET

(1,348 posts)
40. Remember...
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:26 PM
May 12

This arrogant POS was hired as the Director of the White House Presidential Personnel Office under Trump. Per Wikipedia, ‘He was tasked with identifying and removing political appointees and career officials deemed insufficiently loyal to the administration…’. I can only imagine how much he must have enjoyed his job. Probably toyed with his prey before firing them.

DET

(1,348 posts)
79. No Doubt
Mon May 13, 2024, 07:32 PM
May 13

He got into trouble before he was even hired. One of the Generals fired him from his initial position in the Trump administration when he found out that McEntee did not qualify for a security clearance due to some financial malfeasance in his background. So, of course, Trump hired him as his personnel director to clean house per Trump’s direction. I vaguely remember the little twerp causing quite a bit of havoc, but the details escape me in the whirlwind of Trump shenanigans.

One last thing…McEntee convinced Peter Theil to give him money to found a conservative dating app for losers like himself. Every woman’s dream - a sadistic sociopath whose idea of fun is torturing the homeless. I can’t imagine that venture was successful.

Botany

(70,714 posts)
41. I am still recovering from very severe medical crap but I would love to spend some time with that a-hole
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:27 PM
May 12

Excuse me but Mr. McEntee needs a real tune up. “I carry fake money in order to get homeless people
arrested when they try to buy food,”.

progressoid

(50,056 posts)
57. Yeah...
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:09 PM
May 12

I've not been in a physical altercation for a few decades and have made a point to avoid them but I'd make an exception for this guy.

wnylib

(21,899 posts)
64. I had an experience with a homeless guy looking for food just a few days ago.
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:44 PM
May 12

In my small city, homeless people hang out at convenience stores like 7/11 late at night because they are open all night. It's a place to get warm or out of the rain.

A few days ago there were a couple guys hanging out in front of a 7/11 as I entered. It was early evening, but raining. They were sheltering underneath the overhang of the storefront. One of them showed me a Social Services cash/food stamp card and asked me to use it to buy some milk and cinnamon snack cakes for him. He said that the clerks would not accept it from him because it had a female name on it. I am female.

Well, it would have been illegal for me to use the card. Plus, what was he doing with someone else's card? So I said no and went inside. But then I thought, regardless of how he got the card, he was asking for a half gallon of milk and a snack. He was not asking for money or drugs.

So I bought the milk, cinnamon cakes, and a couple healthier snacks on my bank card and gave the bag to him when I came out of the store.

One of the clerks was outside on her break. I'm a regular at that store, so she asked why I gave the guy a bag. I said it was only milk and food. She thought I was a gullible old lady being conned. I said that he was just a hungry person and giving him food was not being conned. It was just being kind. And a lot more legal than his original request.





Botany

(70,714 posts)
74. Speaking of food for the hungry across America check out the Biden' Administration's, "Food is Medicine."
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:35 AM
May 13

It is a game changer. You or somebody in your family needs food we will get you food.
End of story.

Now, some people will complain about the costs but this will make money for America,
help people @ work because they are not worried about their kids or some other family
member or friend needing something to eat, and it shows real kindness in helping people
make their lives better. Joe B. Is the best President of my lifetime and in part because he
has taken some real hurts in his life and had a father and his family who struggled with money
and employment as he was growing up.

Food is Medicine is a combination of HHS, the Department of Ag, Instacart, Feeding America,
the Rockefeller Foundation, and some other non governmental organizations. It will be results
driven. And speaking of results driven buying that man some milk and food was the right thing
to do because you will not miss the 5 or 10 dollars but for an hour or so the homeless person
could feel good and that is a good thing.




IcyPeas

(21,967 posts)
43. This is all over twitter with lots of comments @ing ("at"ing) @FBI and @Secret Service
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:32 PM
May 12

So someone is sure to see it.

What a juvenile twit.

“Trump recently rehired Johnny McEntee, a 29-year-old personal aide to Trump who was abruptly fired in 2018 amid an investigation over "serious financial crimes," to lead the presidential personnel office and purge officials believed to be "anti-Trump."”

What? He was fired for serious financial crimes? Wouldn't this get him promoted ... not fired....

gopiscrap

(23,770 posts)
50. Isn't it illegal to tender fake money to some one
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:54 PM
May 12

with the intention of the receiver thinking it is legitimate currency

FrenchCitizen

(14 posts)
58. He wouldn't be the first.
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:12 PM
May 12
https://apnews.com/general-news-4cca6618b84b606ec703106dd80df3be?utm_source=copy&utm_medium=share

I don't know if the guy in the story above is necessarily a MAGA type like McEntee. But there's a history of shitty people doing that, so I wouldn't put it past him (or some other wannabe MAGA star) to pull an evil stunt like that.

Danmel

(4,954 posts)
59. Sickening
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:14 PM
May 12

Devoid of humanity. I really have no words for someone who could do something so senseless cruel.

DET

(1,348 posts)
69. Speak of the Devil...
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:07 AM
May 13

Wikipedia: ‘In May 2023, it was announced that McEntee was joining The Heritage Foundation's Project 2025 as a senior advisor.’

AverageOldGuy

(1,581 posts)
61. Let's hope . . .
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:30 PM
May 12

. . . that he makes a habit of this in the same areas of the same city. Eventually the homeless in that area will catch on to him, recognize him, and . . . the term "sleeps with the fishes" comes to mind.

Justice comes in many forms, some of it outside the courtroom.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,524 posts)
65. Republicans hate the poor
Sun May 12, 2024, 11:52 PM
May 12

Would send us all to concentration camps and those of us that are disabled would be killed if he had his way.

What an evil little fucker.

America would be so much better if these oversized amydagalia chickenshit republican evolutionary throwbacks were gone.

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