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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,684 posts)
Sun May 12, 2024, 07:46 PM May 12

Students Walk Out on Jerry Seinfeld's Duke Commencement Speech

A slew of students walked out of Duke University’s commencement ceremony on Sunday to protest Israel’s war in Gaza just as the university’s commencement speaker, Jerry Seinfeld, was set to speak.

Videos posted on social media—but omitted from the university’s livestream—showed students walking out as Duke President Vincent Price introduced the comedian, who received an honorary doctorate. Other students erupted into dual jeers and cheers of “Jerry!”




Seinfeld’s speech largely steered clear of his recent public scuffles, focusing instead on jokes surrounding the students, AI, and his honorary degree. In a riff on the idea of privilege, though, he made specific mention of his heritage to loud cheers.

“I grew up a Jewish boy from New York,” Seinfeld said. “That is a privilege if you want to be a comedian.”

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/students-walk-jerry-seinfeld-duke-150027458.html

Why, because he's Jewish? This shit is getting weird.
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Students Walk Out on Jerry Seinfeld's Duke Commencement Speech (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 12 OP
Don't know the context or tone of what he said bucolic_frolic May 12 #1
I believe they walked out before he started speaking. LiberalFighter May 12 #4
Yeah I didn't read a connection between his point and those walking out bucolic_frolic May 12 #6
He said that privilege (like being a Duke graduate) these days seems to be the worst thing betsuni May 12 #8
Good stand up comedian and no trash or vulgar crap in his performances. demosincebirth May 12 #13
A slew walked out? Other reports were dozens. LiberalFighter May 12 #2
A slew is an indefinite number. If it's Donnie, then 1 slew 100,000 people. For others it could be dozens. Wonder Why May 12 #9
"Slew"-- backfiring optics Bad Thoughts May 13 #49
It's a protest about nothing. Seinfeld has nothing to do with it. betsuni May 12 #3
Rebels without a clue? Emoprogs? Delayed teenage angst? Oopsie Daisy May 13 #39
Seinfeld emphasized the importance of a sense of humor, which is apparently right-wing now. betsuni May 13 #40
Sigh. Oopsie Daisy May 13 #43
Yes. betsuni May 13 #44
Yikes.. This does not bode well for other commencements to go smoothly--including Biden's hlthe2b May 12 #5
I don't think Biden will have the same issue. LiberalFighter May 12 #7
I wish that you were right, but I am certain that wnylib May 12 #16
At Morehouse College? West Point? LiberalFighter May 12 #19
Protesters show up anywhere that they can get attention. wnylib May 12 #24
He'll be OK at West Point. The military disciplines protesters. It's considered insubordination. LeftInTX May 13 #37
West Point. They will not get up to leave. No way! jimfields33 May 13 #57
Biden will be fine Dorian Gray May 13 #55
The commencement went smoothly Dorian Gray May 13 #54
Now the "Free Palestine" Hamas-lovers are fucking protesting Jews and anyone sympathetic to Jews. Sick shit. SoFlaBro May 12 #10
They hate Jews more than they love Palestinians. wnylib May 12 #18
+100000000000 betsuni May 12 #21
Israelis have said that when Hamas loves their children more than they hate Israel, the fucking conflict will end. SoFlaBro May 13 #62
Post removed Post removed May 13 #36
Name another conflict apparently showcasing these tactics in which you are interested and sympathetic to. SoFlaBro May 13 #38
"Why, because he's Jewish?" NO, BECAUSE HIS WIFE FUNDS PRO-ISRAEL STATE COUNTERPROTESTORS AND THE TWO OF THEM WhiskeyGrinder May 12 #11
Don't interrupt OP's speculations Prairie Gates May 12 #22
Yes, the students have their right to their opinion by walking out. mucifer May 12 #28
Yeah, the Seinfeld's are awful. Sky Jewels May 13 #35
Why are they awful? betsuni May 13 #51
Did you not read post 11 that started this subthread? Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #66
Gee, I wonder what their problem with Jerry Seinfeld is.... Mountainguy May 12 #12
well...that really was reprehensible... bahboo May 12 #15
Maybe there was a hair in it. BigmanPigman May 12 #23
It was the Marble Rye, not the Babka. And he didn't beat her up... JoseBalow May 12 #25
Oops Mountainguy May 12 #29
Why? Patton French May 12 #14
Because he is a Jew debm55 May 12 #30
No, it's because he has been a very vocal supporter Sky Jewels May 13 #32
A Jewish person supporting Israel. Well that's unusual. /sarc. jimfields33 May 13 #58
Do they support the fascist right-wing bent of the current government? Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #67
Apparently NT Patton French May 13 #70
No they walked out because they hate Jews BannonsLiver May 13 #52
I would assume they hate Seinfeld supporting right-wing asshole fascists. Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #68
So it seems. NT Patton French May 13 #71
Very few walked out. former9thward May 12 #17
Wonder how long this will go on for. FrenchCitizen May 12 #20
Guessing it will slow down in June liberalmediaaddict May 12 #26
We even anticipate protests at my son's high school commencement. RandySF May 12 #27
ridiculous Skittles May 12 #31
Jerry Seinfeld has turned into Sky Jewels May 13 #33
How does he "punch down"? How is he "right wing"? Any examples? betsuni May 13 #34
Right wing? Dorian Gray May 13 #56
Do you support Bibi? You are fine with him? Cuthbert Allgood May 13 #69
Netanyahu needs to go Dorian Gray May 13 #72
Untrue. live love laugh May 13 #59
30 students out of 7,000 Sympthsical May 13 #41
How many people usually make a production of walking out at a commencement speech? betsuni May 13 #42
Even so Sympthsical May 13 #46
Does seem to be a sociology majors tantrum in the middle of the toy aisle thing. betsuni May 13 #47
As someone with a history degree Sympthsical May 13 #48
In the Olden Days of the '80s when I was in college I didn't know any of my professor's personal beliefs no betsuni May 13 #50
Well aren't they special Blue Owl May 13 #61
The whole bdamomma May 13 #45
Meh Dorian Gray May 13 #53
Wonder if he still digs high school girls? John Shaft May 13 #60
He's just another rich, privileged, white male TV celebrity SocialDemocrat61 May 13 #63
So that allows a handful idiots to interrupt a college graduation Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 13 #64
My comment was about Seinfeld SocialDemocrat61 May 13 #65

bucolic_frolic

(43,650 posts)
1. Don't know the context or tone of what he said
Sun May 12, 2024, 07:54 PM
May 12

and never having watched Seinfeld or followed his career, he may be referring to or have performed in the so-called Borscht Belt.

bucolic_frolic

(43,650 posts)
6. Yeah I didn't read a connection between his point and those walking out
Sun May 12, 2024, 07:59 PM
May 12

I was trying to understand what he meant by those specific words.

betsuni

(25,913 posts)
8. He said that privilege (like being a Duke graduate) these days seems to be the worst thing
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:10 PM
May 12

you can have and wants to defend it. Use it! Because of the long history of Jewish comedy, Jerry's privilege was being a Jewish comedian: if he messed up a funny story when he was young, his relatives would tell him how the joke should go. We're embarrassed about things we should be proud of and proud of things we should be embarrassed about.

LiberalFighter

(51,609 posts)
2. A slew walked out? Other reports were dozens.
Sun May 12, 2024, 07:55 PM
May 12

Seems a small minority.

I wonder how many companies will check their social media accounts?

Wonder Why

(3,421 posts)
9. A slew is an indefinite number. If it's Donnie, then 1 slew 100,000 people. For others it could be dozens.
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:16 PM
May 12

Bad Thoughts

(2,542 posts)
49. "Slew"-- backfiring optics
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:21 AM
May 13

These attempts at protests are only proving that the critics of Israel/supporters of Hamas' war are in the very minority.

betsuni

(25,913 posts)
40. Seinfeld emphasized the importance of a sense of humor, which is apparently right-wing now.
Mon May 13, 2024, 06:35 AM
May 13

Also being enthusiastic about small things like some really good pens, pizza -- not everything's about big righteous identity-purity politics that you don't know anything about and just follow because it's trendy. Obviously he's under the bus

hlthe2b

(102,658 posts)
5. Yikes.. This does not bode well for other commencements to go smoothly--including Biden's
Sun May 12, 2024, 07:57 PM
May 12

upcoming Morehouse speech. I saw a very disturbing interview with a couple of students a few days ago. I can only hope they are not representative.

wnylib

(21,898 posts)
16. I wish that you were right, but I am certain that
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:06 PM
May 12

the hate Israel/hate Jews protesters will show up to blame Biden for the war that Hamas initiated.

wnylib

(21,898 posts)
24. Protesters show up anywhere that they can get attention.
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:37 PM
May 12

Since the anti Israel protesters now blame the US for defending Israel against terrorism, anything associated with the US military will draw their attention.

There will be intense security because of the President's presence, but the anti Israel protesters will get as near and noisy as they can.

LeftInTX

(25,939 posts)
37. He'll be OK at West Point. The military disciplines protesters. It's considered insubordination.
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:38 AM
May 13

They're anticipating protests at Morehouse.

jimfields33

(16,329 posts)
57. West Point. They will not get up to leave. No way!
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:54 AM
May 13

However, a few Morehouse students said they may protest. We will have to wait and see. Hopefully it won’t happen.

Dorian Gray

(13,549 posts)
55. Biden will be fine
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:39 AM
May 13

And if kids protest…. He’ll deal with it and move on.

These protests are losing oxygen

Dorian Gray

(13,549 posts)
54. The commencement went smoothly
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:38 AM
May 13

A handful of self important kids walked out. They were booed. Then the ceremony went on like normal.

wnylib

(21,898 posts)
18. They hate Jews more than they love Palestinians.
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:18 PM
May 12

If they cared about Palestinians, they would protest Hamas using 16 year old child soldiers. They would protest Hamas using even younger children as couriers in the front lines of war and having them carry explosives between Hamas encampments. They would protest Hamas and its affiliated terror groups that kill Palestinians who try to work for peace, calling them traitors and collaborators. They would protest the fact that millions of dollars given to Palestine for decades to improve the quality of life for Palestinians was instead used for building underground fighting networks that expose civilians on the surface to death during a war that they started.

"Free Palestine" would have a more genuine meaning if it meant to free Palestinians from terrorist rule.




SoFlaBro

(2,077 posts)
62. Israelis have said that when Hamas loves their children more than they hate Israel, the fucking conflict will end.
Mon May 13, 2024, 11:34 AM
May 13

Response to SoFlaBro (Reply #10)

SoFlaBro

(2,077 posts)
38. Name another conflict apparently showcasing these tactics in which you are interested and sympathetic to.
Mon May 13, 2024, 03:02 AM
May 13

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,578 posts)
11. "Why, because he's Jewish?" NO, BECAUSE HIS WIFE FUNDS PRO-ISRAEL STATE COUNTERPROTESTORS AND THE TWO OF THEM
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:25 PM
May 12

Last edited Sun May 12, 2024, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)

visited a paramilitary camp geared at "military tourism" in the West Bank a few years ago, where people can shoot at "terrorist" cutouts.

edited to post in all caps so people might see it lol

https://www.thedailybeast.com/jessica-seinfeld-and-bill-ackman-fund-pro-israel-counterprotests-at-ucla

Jessica Seinfeld, cookbook author and wife to comedian Jerry Seinfeld, is funding a pro-Israel counterprotest at UCLA—where violence broke out Tuesday night after a mob attacked demonstrators inside a pro-Palestine encampment.

A GoFundMe for the effort, which Seinfeld promoted in an Instagram story this week after contributing at least $5,000, has since made the majority of its donations anonymous. The fundraising page has raised more than $93,000 as of Wednesday and also changed its organizer name and description since launching over the weekend.

The Daily Beast left messages for reps for the Seinfelds.

“I just gave to this GoFundMe to support more allies like yesterday’s at UCLA,” Seinfeld wrote this week. “More cities are being planned so please give what you can. Donations are annonymous [sic]. We will continue to share our light and love, as proud American Jews.”

Mountainguy

(618 posts)
12. Gee, I wonder what their problem with Jerry Seinfeld is....
Sun May 12, 2024, 09:27 PM
May 12

I bet they are upset that he beat up that old bag over that chocolate babka.

Sky Jewels

(7,232 posts)
32. No, it's because he has been a very vocal supporter
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:07 AM
May 13

of Israel’s right wing fascist government and apartheid policies.

If your thesis was right, then people like Bernie Sanders would also get pushback from Gen Z. But Bernie has criticized Netanyahu’s genocide, so he is regarded very differently than Seinfeld.

But of course you know that and still choose to pretend it’s an antisemitic protest.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,018 posts)
67. Do they support the fascist right-wing bent of the current government?
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:36 PM
May 13

All of them support that? Because it seems clear that Seinfeld does. And that's kind of gross. And, frankly, something that DU would be supporting protests about. If the students walked out on a speaker that supported Hungary's little fascist, I'm sure we would all applaud it. But when it is Israel's fascist, it's all of a sudden racism.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,018 posts)
68. I would assume they hate Seinfeld supporting right-wing asshole fascists.
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:37 PM
May 13

Which is something I would think liberals would support.

FrenchCitizen

(14 posts)
20. Wonder how long this will go on for.
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:28 PM
May 12

Apologies if this counts as thread hijacking, I'm unable to post OPs for the time being.

During my breaks at work, I scroll through Liberal/Democratic/Leftist Twitter circles just to read whatever I see. As one can imagine, Israel/Palestine has been dominating a lot of the conversations for half a year now.

The "Free Palestine" movement/boycotts aren't new; they've been a thing for years now, albeit in more obscure forums and corners of social media. I can't remember the name of it now since it's been a few years since I last visited, but there was a forum primarily for gamers that sometimes delved into the Israel/Palestine conflict.

On Twitter, there are these "lists" that go around which identify celebrities and companies that supposedly have "Zionist/Israeli" ties. Some entries might have legitimate roots, others (I would argue probably most) are based on dubious sources and information. I'm not going to accuse every person who perpetuates these lists as "anti-Semitic," though many people just add Jewish celebrities to the list based on their biased, preconceived notions. Jerry has been part of the lists that are being circulated, among others. These lists encourage people to boycott, protest, and conduct strikes on certain days.

I imagine many countries, primarily Western, are going to be dealing with these (on a small and sparse degree, most likely) incidents for a while. At least until the conflict comes to an end. I support innocent people who are trapped in both Palestine and Israel. I do not want this conflict to bleed into other countries.

liberalmediaaddict

(797 posts)
26. Guessing it will slow down in June
Sun May 12, 2024, 10:48 PM
May 12

At least regarding the campus protests.
After the semester and commencement ceremonies end many students take the summer off.

Sky Jewels

(7,232 posts)
33. Jerry Seinfeld has turned into
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:20 AM
May 13

a cranky, smug, arrogant, insufferable right wing asshole who supports Israel’s carnage and colonialism and apartheid policies. He has also been complaining that “the far left” is killing comedy because now you can’t punch down without pushback. Fuck him.

betsuni

(25,913 posts)
34. How does he "punch down"? How is he "right wing"? Any examples?
Mon May 13, 2024, 12:22 AM
May 13

Last edited Mon May 13, 2024, 06:43 AM - Edit history (2)

No, obviously no examples because it isn't true.

Dorian Gray

(13,549 posts)
56. Right wing?
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:44 AM
May 13

Punch down?

I’ll accept that he’s an old crank. Sure. Kids these days and all that.

The rest is nonsense bc he supports a Jewish state and you hate that.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,018 posts)
69. Do you support Bibi? You are fine with him?
Mon May 13, 2024, 02:39 PM
May 13

Because Seinfeld seems to be at a very intense and gross level.

Frankly, I don't like fascists and I am amazed at the support for one on a liberal discussion board.

Dorian Gray

(13,549 posts)
72. Netanyahu needs to go
Mon May 13, 2024, 09:15 PM
May 13

I don't support him.

Seinfeld supports Jews here and in Israel. He met with families of hostages after October 7th, in Israel. He is unapologetically pro-Jewish. So what?

His wife supported counter protestors at UCLA. Some of them got way out of hand and that is terribly unfortunate. The ones who physically attacked or set off fireworks against the anti-Israeli protestors should face consequences for that, sure.

Where is there any proof he supports Bibi Netanyahu?

Sympthsical

(9,217 posts)
41. 30 students out of 7,000
Mon May 13, 2024, 06:43 AM
May 13

Seems like the media are desperate to make a handful of protesters at commencements seem far, far more significant than they actually are.

For comparison, there are three times as many people in Duke University's chess club. There were probably more people who left to go to the bathroom during the ceremony.

But hey, headlines.

betsuni

(25,913 posts)
42. How many people usually make a production of walking out at a commencement speech?
Mon May 13, 2024, 06:47 AM
May 13

Those not going to pee, that is.

Sympthsical

(9,217 posts)
46. Even so
Mon May 13, 2024, 07:29 AM
May 13

When a toddler is doing their "Look at me!" tantrum in middle of the toy aisle, the best solution is usually not to indulge.

This tiny group that is not even slightly representative of their fellow students very much want all the attention. Add to that those that agree with them want to make it seem that the protest movement is much larger and more significant than it actually is. They try to make it seem mainstream instead of the hodgepodge of radicals, sociology majors, and antisemites that it is.

I admit I get caught up in it, too. Antisemitism is just one of those things for me. As soon as I see it - particularly apologias and excuses for it - it's go time. I think what bothers me more is the fact I'm having a reckoning about how I identify politically - I am not on the same side of these people in any sense. And how I see a double standard and permissiveness towards bigotry on campuses based on Marxist oppression ideology. "You can't be racist here, but you can totally be racist there!" (Not being racist anywhere just kind of isn't a thing with these people anymore). If this is where my "team" is, I'm not sure I want to be on that team anymore. (I'm not talking Democrat vs. Republican, rather self-identifying as Left. Still voting Democratic no matter what).

So I've been paying a ton of attention to this. But given the actual tangible numbers of participants, maybe we are paying a mite too much attention to the toddler in the toy aisle. I'll still throw down over antisemitism wherever it manifests, but this stuff? Eh.

Something I'm thinking about, at least.

betsuni

(25,913 posts)
47. Does seem to be a sociology majors tantrum in the middle of the toy aisle thing.
Mon May 13, 2024, 07:37 AM
May 13

Where are the history majors? I guess they gave up. Don't blame them.

Sympthsical

(9,217 posts)
48. As someone with a history degree
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:06 AM
May 13

It's painful to listen to these people. Where is all the tuition going? How are people graduating college without knowing anything?

But then I'm in college again now, and I honestly don't believe half my professors could think their way out of a paper bag. The standards seem seriously low. I mentioned on DU a year or so ago, but when my constitutional law professor started ranting, tossing us blog links to extremely left radicals, and calling Clarence Thomas an "oreo" it was like, "Oh. He thinks his classroom is Twitter." Even if I agree with him that Thomas is a piece of shit - which I do - the man needs to not be near a classroom.

So I think the question kind of answers itself. Non-ideological educated people are tapping out from the crazy.

betsuni

(25,913 posts)
50. In the Olden Days of the '80s when I was in college I didn't know any of my professor's personal beliefs no
Mon May 13, 2024, 08:25 AM
May 13

matter how many classes I took with them. Unless they were old and nutty. It wasn't their job to influence students. I guess that's really changed.

SocialDemocrat61

(748 posts)
63. He's just another rich, privileged, white male TV celebrity
Mon May 13, 2024, 11:55 AM
May 13

Same as Maher. Same as Stewart. Same as Moore. Same as Trump.

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