An update on the Mount Horeb WI school shooter

[Kaleva]

The deceased was identified as Damian Haglund, a 14-year-old eighth-grader at the school. He was armed with a. 177 caliber pellet gun. He pointed the weapon at police and after ignoring commands to drop the weapon, the police shot him.

https://wisconsinwatch.org/2024/05/wisconsin-school-shooting-mount-horeb-rural-suburban/

An excerpt from his obituary:

"Let us shed light on the importance of mental health awareness. Let us reach out to those who may be struggling, and offer compassion, support and understanding. Together, let us break the stigma surrounding mental illness, fostering a community where seeking help is met with empathy, not judgment.



If you or someone you know may be experiencing a mental health crisis, call or text the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline at 988 for immediate assistance 24/7. For more information, please visit their website (tinyurl.com/3y4x24z2). The National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) is also a great resource for assisting with mental health issues. Call their helpline 800-950-6264, or text “helpline” to 62640. For more information about NAMI, visit their website (nami.org) where you can also chat with a HelpLine specialist."

https://www.gundersonfh.com/obituaries/Damian-Scott-Cadena-Haglund?obId=31393991

[RazorbackExpat]

1. I'm from a different era

I just don't understand what's happening today.

[Arthur_Frain]

3. So am I. Neither do I.

But there’s so much more perpetual despair than there was in my younger days. At least I could see myself moving up in life as I compared it to the high water marks as I grew older, there was progress, light at the end of the tunnel. Even at 18 I could afford to move out and get an apartment by myself to go home and rally at when it all seemed like it was too much.

These kids today can’t see any of that. Where’s the reliable used car I scored for $300 back in 1980? Starter homes could still be had for under 50K. There’s nothing like that now, and no way to get traction to improve your life that doesn’t involve sheer luck.

On edit: welcome to DU

[WhiskeyGrinder]

2. Gah, poor kid. Here's hoping the rest of his family gets help and support.

Also,

Mount Horeb WI school shooter

...was it established that he actually ever fired a shot?

[Kaleva]

4. All I've seen is reports that he pointed his weapon at police

I haven't found any that state he fired it

[Barry Markson]

5. "was it established that he actually ever fired a shot?"

What possible difference would that make?

Point a weapon at me and I don't return fire, I shoot 1st and determine intent later.

I'd rather 12 folks on a jury decide my fate than 6 carrying my coffin.

[Silent Type]

6. I've heard the same from most ammosexuals. Personally, I'm not shooting some kid with a pellet gun.

[Barry Markson]

9. Really, talk to a lot of these made up "ammosexuals" do ya?

Or just the voices in your head?

[Silent Type]

12. If you are that into guns that you'd shoot a kid with a pellet gun, you are the one hearing voices.

[Orrex]

16. It becomes easier and easier to form an opinion of you

from the overall arc of your posts.

Thank you for making it clear.

[Barry Markson]

20. You're welcome.

Back at ya.

[Greg_In_SF]

13. How would you...

know it's a pellet gun?

[Silent Type]

14. Ever had one? They are easy to spot if you aren't looking for an excuse to shoot someone.

[Greg_In_SF]

15. Sorry, but that's just not the way it works when someone draws on you.

[Silent Type]

18. How many times has someone drawn on you? Do you practice in front of a mirror in case someone draws on you?

[Greg_In_SF]

19. Twice, back when I lived in Houston.

Not sure what you even mean about the mirror. Are you saying that if someone drew a pellet gun on you, you would be able to determine that the barrel bore is 0.043" too small to be a .22 caliber rifle? And, are you also saying that pellet rifles aren't lethal? The kid made a fatal mistake by pointing a gun at law enforcement officers and ignoring their commands. It's just that simple.

[Greg_In_SF]

22. Considering that we are talking about officers stopping a potentially lethal threat...

your comment doesn't really make much sense. And no, of course I wouldn't shoot someone who offered to clean my windows. I don't carry my Grandfather's .22 hunting rifle around with me in my car

[Kaleva]

7. Good to know you wouldn't hesitate to shoot a young kid

[Barry Markson]

8. It's only a problem if you're the "young kid" pointing a weapon at me.

Teach your children well.

[Kaleva]

11. No attempt to seek cover? Just blow the kid away?

As the kid was in the open, it'd be highly unlikely that he took you by surprise carrying openly what would appear to be a long gun .

I'd also be hesitant about drawing my weapon while the other person already has his gun pointed at me. Such an action might motivate him to pull the trigger while I'm drawing .

[WhiskeyGrinder]

10. lol ok tiger

[hunter]

17. I don't let anyone I'd care to shoot live in my head.

I've seen the police shoot people I wouldn't have shot myself and I didn't care for it.

A few people have directly threatened me with guns. Even so it's never occurred to me that I should shoot them.

I do have some PTSD about these things. In my personal experience, once the guns come out everything is FUBAR.

Thanks for letting us know who you would shoot and why.