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... even worse than those deeply anti-democratic, anti-rule-of-law, and anti-constitutional arguments? Some of the Supreme Court Justices seemed to be seriously entertaining those arguments. None more that Justice Samuel Alito, as this video discusses.
Groundhawg
(566 posts)elleng
(131,355 posts)BlueKota
(1,860 posts)elleng
(131,355 posts)Igel
(35,387 posts)The question is what's within the outer perimeter of presidential authority. Only in some (social, but not only,) media is that perimeter unbounded.
The SCOTUS questioning was to define where that "outer perimeter" might be.
BOSSHOG
(37,150 posts)Lets couch the argument that I demand absolute immunity. You pretend that would be absurd but hint that some immunity would be okay with some Americans, you know, the dumbasses who vote for me. Just make me immune enough not to be held accountable for most of the stuff Ive done. Surely to god Alito you can find some 17th century witch doctor to cite. Love You Guys.
tclambert
(11,087 posts)that would be OK with those Supreme Court Justices?
This is not a game. Lives are at stake. And for you Supreme Court Justices thinking of making a mockery of the rule of law, YOUR lives are at stake.
Igel
(35,387 posts)"He ordered the assassination of 6 SCOTUS judges that might go against him."
He ordered the assassination of terrorists in Afghanistan about to drop 6 Boeings with Russian and Iranian radiologic material in stadiums during NFL games."
Surely, we can distinguish between the two?
Break the binary. I guess.
dobleremolque
(495 posts)that 4 to 6 new seats be added to the U.S. Supreme Court and filled while Democrats have the trifecta.
uponit7771
(90,370 posts)NotASurfer
(2,157 posts)Day after thumbs up to a claim like that, they would have to realize, four of them could end up in Gitmo because they said the President could do than without repercussions. Good luck getting legal representation because absolute immunity to violating right to an attorney. Enjoy your stay because absolute immunity to denial of a speedy trial - or any trial for that matter.
Bobstandard
(1,332 posts)Many have described why SCOTUS wont grant immunity. The biggest reason is that granting total immunity puts them in jeopardy.
I believe they only pretend to entertain the notion in order to grant Trump the delay that helps him. In that sense, theyre colluding with him and his campaign. They will send the issue back to the lower level courts for the bogus need for finding of facts that arent at issue in the case before them. That delay will result in the need to actually decide the case until after the election.
If Biden wins theyll determine there is no immunity. If Trump wins they might find some limited immunity that makes it possible for him to deploy dictatorial powers but not threaten their own powers.
The fix is in and it couldnt be more clear.
0rganism
(23,989 posts)The trick is to time the decision so it lands after Jan. 20, to avoid giving immunity to the wrong president.
If President Biden is reelected, i expect a reasonable outcome that maintains the status quo. If the election tips to TSF, we'll see the most batshit insane ruling ever to emerge from the SCOTUS.
Model35mech
(1,593 posts)3? ... I suppose it's possible
B.See
(1,343 posts)LAW AND ORDER will overcome the MAGA justices' complete and ABJECT FEALTY to their "chosen one."